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Perils of softness - Britain mustnít mollycoddle radicals
The Pioneer ^ | Saturday, May 25, 2013 | Editor

Posted on 05/26/2013 12:21:28 AM PDT by Jyotishi

The senseless and sickening killing of a British soldier in London by two radicalised Muslim youths earlier this week is a direct consequence of the UK going soft on extremists flourishing there. One only has to look at the alarming response of Britain's political establishment and mainstream media to the recent act to understand that such is indeed the case. Instead of calling out the attack for what it is — Islamist terrorism — and condemning it in unequivocal terms, the two have tied themselves up in knots.

And so it is that Prime Minister David Cameron has not just labelled the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby as “an attack on Britain” but has also called it a “betrayal of Islam”, going so far as to explain that, “There is nothing in Islam that justifies this truly dreadful act”. So paranoid he is about being politically incorrect, about offending imagined religious sensitivities, that he utters not a word about the rabid radicals who continue to brainwash the youth with their depraved ideology in the name of Islam. And with that, the British Prime Minister comes frighteningly close to those same radical Islamist leaders like Anjem Choudhary. In the aftermath of the attack, a “shocked” Choudhary, who headed the banned Al Muhajiroun group, justified the attack as a response to Britain's skewed foreign policies and its “occupation of Muslim land”. Unsurprisingly, one of the two London attackers, Michael Adebolajo, had attended Choudhary's rallies and was a regular among fanatics who routinely protest alongside notorious hate mongers.

Adebolajo's actions have been praised by a Muslim cleric, Omar Bakri Mohammed, who claims to have converted the killer from Christianity to Islam a few years ago. Mohammed was given political asylum in the UK in 1986, after which he established Hizb ut-Tahrir's branch in that country and later, the Al Muhajiroun. The influence that ‘religious leaders' like Mohammed and Choudhary wield, however, continues to be discounted. Instead, the focus is limited, to the likes of Adebolajo. And so, British society is fed the narrative of the ‘lone wolf' terrorist who has no direct connection with terrorist groups but picks up the tricks of the trade online, like Adebolajo in the UK — and the Tsarnaev brothers in the US, who were responsible for the Boston bombings.

And while it is true that such individuals do work independently, it is equally true that they are part of a global belief system that aims at terrorising society. And it is only when the state takes this holistic view that it can effectively contain the menace. The fact is that not even the most efficient of security systems can monitor and prevent attacks emanating from such ‘terrorist cells' comprising one or two individuals — especially when one also factors in convicted Islamists who are released into society after serving short jail terms, as is the case in the UK. These individuals pose a continued threat even as they remain under surveillance, for which also taxpayers pay a hefty sum. But while the state can't pre-empt the movement of every ‘lone wolf', it can clamp down on hate-mongers — instead of turning a blind eye to them or quietly encouraging them so long as they do not indulge in ‘terrorist attacks’.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; london; muslim; terrorism; uk; wot

1 posted on 05/26/2013 12:21:28 AM PDT by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

mollycoddle...An effeminate or ineffectual man or boy, sorrttaaa like ahhh errrr Odungo


2 posted on 05/26/2013 12:23:42 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

3 posted on 05/26/2013 12:33:12 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

In nature, preditors only attack the weak and defenseless. Homosexuals and Muslims have learned this well. The best defense against these attacks is to go on offense.

If these people are running or hiding, they can’t kill or rape innocent people.


4 posted on 05/26/2013 1:00:49 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Step 1: Officially declare Islam to be the terrorist cult that it is.


5 posted on 05/26/2013 1:19:27 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi
Current immigration policy isn't working for Brits or Muslims. Why is it happening?
6 posted on 05/26/2013 2:56:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (It's Gotten So Bad for Obama Fox News Changed Its Slogan to "See. I Told You So!"- Leno)
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To: GOPJ

Happening in most countries now. Sweden, US, France. Reason: New World Order.


7 posted on 05/26/2013 3:29:04 AM PDT by ransacked
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To: GOPJ

Our polititians are singing the same tune to us


8 posted on 05/26/2013 3:42:49 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: Jyotishi

I can guarantee that PM Cameron is more concerned about how this attack will help bring support to the UKIP then he is about protecting the citizens from future attacks like this.


9 posted on 05/26/2013 4:02:14 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Jyotishi

10 posted on 05/26/2013 4:06:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ransacked

I bet if a vigilante group were to blow up a mosque (when no one was in it of course; they wouldn’t afford us the same luxury) everytime an attack occurs, I bet the Muslim terrorist / invaders would think twice before committing them.


11 posted on 05/26/2013 4:27:47 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Jyotishi

Too late.


12 posted on 05/26/2013 4:29:46 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: ronnie raygun

> Our polititians are singing the same tune to us

We can no longer trust or rely on politicians to fix our problems. We are going to have to fix them ourselves.


13 posted on 05/26/2013 4:30:02 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Jyotishi

Doomed from the start. Their premise is wrong. It’s not radicals, it’s ALL muslims.

One thing W said right, even if his coddling of Islam leaves us where we are today.

“..... Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.”

Two persons on the street talking.......

“That one....he’s a radical.”

“How can you tell that he’s not just one of those vast number of peaceful muslims?”

“I thought he was, but he has blood all over his hands, a meat cleaver in one of them, and that guy over there doesn’t have a head.”

“I’ll try and stay clear of those radicals, now that I know what to look for. Thanks for the heads up, I feel safer now.”


14 posted on 05/26/2013 4:41:03 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Jyotishi

“Radicalized”? In living and doing as the very “prophet” did? Are Christians who, in their lives, live as Christ did “radicalized”?


15 posted on 05/26/2013 4:47:41 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html


16 posted on 05/26/2013 5:22:28 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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THE LIB SPIN Heck, that Muzzie Hacker in Britain is just one of those excitable lads unable to cope. Really, a perfectly affable bloke who sometimes gets "mildly alienated"....

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DID YOU KNOW? Within hours of the Boston Marathon blasts, US government officials and Muslims in Boston called each other to offer assistance......just in case THE MUZZIES suffered backlash or threats.

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Allah be praised---bomber Tamarlan Tsarnaev was a devout Muslim: Tamarlan played, prayed, sold/smoked a few joints, slit a few throats, blew up a kid, chewed up a few Bostonians' legs, beat up his girlfriend, high-fived his friends, had money to burn, drove a luxury US car, rode the US gravy train under several identities (see Tam's reading list on Amazon WRT his interest in establishing multiple identities).

.......and after the bombings, a flurry of US govt phone calls following the explosions were NOT about the unfolding investigation.

Representatives from the US Departments of Justice and Homeland Security called to offer support to Muslim communities......just in case THEY suffered backlash or threats.

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REFERENCE Federal outreach to Muslim American communities is a pillar of Obama counter-terrorism strategy
Washington post | 5/25/2013 | ap / FR Posted by tobyhill Within hours of the Boston Marathon blasts, government officials and Muslims in Boston called each other to offer assistance. These calls were the fruits of years of cultivating such relationships in an effort to ultimately prevent the very type of attack Boston experienced April 15....Representatives from the US Departments of Justice and Homeland Security called to offer support to Muslim communities......just in case THEY suffered backlash or threats. (more on FR).

17 posted on 05/26/2013 5:51:33 AM PDT by Liz
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18 posted on 05/26/2013 5:54:47 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Jyotishi
"youths"

??????????????

19 posted on 05/26/2013 5:59:43 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Liz

Well, zerO has said earlier that if things turn ugly, he will side with the muslims — so what do you expect?


20 posted on 05/26/2013 6:35:44 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Jyotishi

You cannot pacify a rabid dog.


21 posted on 05/26/2013 6:35:45 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Jyotishi

There you have it.

There are very few if any Thuggee cultists any more.


22 posted on 05/26/2013 6:47:08 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Jyotishi

Nothing will happen until Britain (and the U.S.) declares that Islam is a two-headed entity. One head is a religion and will be treated as such insofar as it acts in the realm of traditional religion. The other head has no role in the religious realm but is an earthly civic institution with its own set of rules and goals (sharia, jihad, etc.)that is inconsistent with Western culture and laws that will be prosecuted fully when they conflict therewith.


23 posted on 05/26/2013 7:27:03 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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Fortunately it looks like the UK still has time to save itself. And that's by the rise of the UKIP and the common sense policies of its leader Nigel Farage.

Not only on the folly of the EU as THE ruling body of all of Europe but on the stupid policy of Open Borders in the UK and the immigrants it brings -- who will never give a damn about Great Britain (England).

A few years ago the UKIP was a 'fringe party' and Nigel was a 'kook'. NOW UKIP is winning elections, Nigel is taken seriously, and now they're a political threat to the Tories and Liberal Democrats, and pretty soon taking Parliament and Nigel Farage will be the Prime Minister.

The British people are fed up with all the professional politicians and the poop-storm their Liberal Policies have created, including those of the Tories. And now with the Muslims declaring open war in the streets of London, Brits want 'someone' to crack down, and hard.

24 posted on 05/26/2013 7:52:03 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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I notice you give no credit to the much-maligned EDL for part of the sea change that appears to be forming in the UK?


25 posted on 05/26/2013 8:07:54 AM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: Jyotishi

The UK must find its manhood or perish.


26 posted on 05/26/2013 8:37:54 AM PDT by Spok
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Britain mustn’t mollycoddle [MUSLIM] radicals

Don't they cut your head off for that?!?

Mollycoddling right along with jaywalking, double chip dipping and breathing while British?

27 posted on 05/26/2013 8:38:01 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: jsanders2001
I bet if a vigilante group were to blow up a mosque (when no one was in it of course; they wouldn’t afford us the same luxury) everytime an attack occurs, I bet the Muslim terrorist / invaders would think twice before committing them.

They'd probably just cutoff more heads. Tell 'em there are moles in the congregation who will hide a pigs head/blood/parts/etc. somewhere in a random mosque each time a terrorist act is committed. (You don't even have to do it, just SAY it, giving them something to look for and the non-existant infidel.)

And, as a sweetener, said terrorist will be put in a cell containing same (or something that LOOKS like it - mess with their minds). All kinds of similar scenarios come to mind.

28 posted on 05/26/2013 8:44:44 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Inwoodian

One cannot separate Jihad and Mad Mo’ from Islam.


29 posted on 05/26/2013 8:51:51 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

There needs to be a way to differentiate Islam from the other religions without violating Freedom of Religion. A variation of “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto God what is God’s”.


30 posted on 05/26/2013 9:06:09 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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