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To: carriage_hill

All the numbers seem to be for a single person. What about a family of four?
The devil is always in the details..what do you get for a bronze, silver and gold?


3 posted on 05/26/2013 11:38:09 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat

I’m sure the numbers that are being reported in California are being heavily manipulated, that’s why they fly in the face of every other study done on the costs of implementing Obamacare.


5 posted on 05/26/2013 11:44:08 AM PDT by HawkHogan
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To: Oldexpat

>>All the numbers seem to be for a single person. What about a family of four?

Why should there be rates for a family? A citizen is a citizen. Everyone should pay individually. If the purpose of ObamaCare is to distribute the costs of medical insurance across 100% of the population, then each “population unit” should pay.

Perhaps the “chilluns” can work in a factory or something to pay their mandatory health care + national debt service. It’s only faaaaaaaaaairrrrrr.


11 posted on 05/26/2013 11:47:09 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Oldexpat

Last OMB report I heard was $20-21,000 “avg for family of 4”. Still doesn’t tell us what level and plan that is. That may be 1st year, entry level, but could rise astronomically after that.


13 posted on 05/26/2013 11:48:14 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Oldexpat

IRS example of Bronze Plan for family of four. ($20,000/year. Cheap, eh?)

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/irs-cheapest-obamacare-plan-will-be-20000-family


14 posted on 05/26/2013 11:50:13 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Oldexpat
All the numbers seem to be for a single person. What about a family of four?

How old is the insured?

25 posted on 05/26/2013 12:21:51 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Plan "B" is now Plan "A")
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To: Oldexpat

Correction: it wasn’t an OMB report, it was CNS article:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/irs-cheapest-obamacare-plan-will-be-20000-family


28 posted on 05/26/2013 12:26:03 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Oldexpat
what do you get for a bronze, silver and gold?

Nothing if you're over 65.

44 posted on 05/26/2013 12:46:48 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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Boston’s “Big Dig” project: Government estimated coat $2.8 billion. Actual cost: over $14.6 billion

Nearly 7x what we wee told. Why should this be any different?


49 posted on 05/26/2013 12:58:44 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Oldexpat
Exactly: I heard the same shtick on NPR-- a single person's insurance is "low-cost" at $400 month-- what about the family plan? $1200? That's what you can get buying it yourself.

Say you're single in a non-tech field with an income of $40K. So you'll pay 10% of your income for health insurance, 25% in federal, state and local taxes and probably about 5% (or more) in transportation. So before your rent is paid, 40-50% of your income is already gone.

In addition, we now have to pay for extra layers of state and federal insurance bureaucracy. Such a deal!

54 posted on 05/26/2013 1:11:20 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Oldexpat
What about a family of four?

I looked at my spouse's paycheck deductions for a family of four. The employer pitches in too, making the cost for a family of four over $20,000 a year.

Having worked for 20 years in the private insurance field for multiple health insurers, I know that these premiums still result in a loss or at most up to a 3% ROI for the insurer, who knows what they're doing.

The IRS doesn't know what they're signed up for, but it will increase their industry-ignorant bureaucracy for sure.

60 posted on 05/26/2013 1:54:14 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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