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Researchers say Western IQs dropped 14 points over last century
Yahoo! News ^ | May 24, 2013 | Eric Pfeiffer

Posted on 05/26/2013 8:06:05 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows

A new study from researchers in Europe claims that the average IQ in Western nations dropped by a staggering 14.1 points over the past century.

"We tested the hypothesis that the Victorians were cleverer than modern populations using high-quality instruments, namely measures of simple visual reaction time in a meta-analytic study," the researchers wrote in the study, which was published online in the journal Intelligence on Thursday. "Simple reaction time measures correlate substantially with measures of general intelligence and are considered elementary measures of cognition."

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The results were measured using data from 1889 to 2004 and were analyzed by Michael A. Woodley of Vrije Universiteit in Brussels, Jan te Nijenhuis of the University of Amsterdam and Raegan Murphy of the University College Cork in Ireland.

So why has there been such a steady drop? As UPI notes, previous research studies have found that women of higher intelligence tend to have fewer children on average, meaning that population growth may be driven by those with a lower IQ. And over time, the abundance of less intelligent offspring would affect the overall IQ average.

On average, the general intelligence of those populations measured dropped by 1.23 points per decade.

"These findings strongly indicate that with respect to general intelligence the Victorians were substantially cleverer than modern Western populations," the study says.

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Man, who put all these elephants in the living room...oh sorry, was I not supposed to mention that?
1 posted on 05/26/2013 8:06:05 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows
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To: Slings and Arrows

Let’s not bring up immigration...


2 posted on 05/26/2013 8:07:39 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Slings and Arrows
The welfare state has eliminated natural selection.

The people who used to die as a result of their stupidity now collect government checks and make more babies than the people who fund those government checks.

3 posted on 05/26/2013 8:08:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Ah, the scientific evidence regarding the 2008 and 2012 elections.

Bet there’s a positive correlation with PC involved there, as well. Along with the decline of Western Civilization.


4 posted on 05/26/2013 8:08:43 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Slings and Arrows

“research studies have found that women of higher intelligence tend to have fewer children on average, meaning that population growth may be driven by those with a lower IQ.”

That’s the premise of the movie “Idiocracy”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icmRCixQrx8


5 posted on 05/26/2013 8:09:52 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I know I was smarter a hunred years ago.


6 posted on 05/26/2013 8:10:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Touche!


7 posted on 05/26/2013 8:11:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
They must have studied the religious and disaster forecasting/prepping threads here! /ducking/
8 posted on 05/26/2013 8:12:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

yer a witch theyll burn yaaaa


9 posted on 05/26/2013 8:13:29 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You mean that you get more of what you subsidize and less of what you tax? Who knew?


10 posted on 05/26/2013 8:13:54 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Revolting cat!

That’s funny.


11 posted on 05/26/2013 8:14:18 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Slings and Arrows
Look at what the Hell is directing our destiny in this Nation now! I wasn't born a hundred years ago, but I'm smart enough not to vote for that Marxist maggot!



"Riamh nár dhruid ó sbairn lann!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

12 posted on 05/26/2013 8:14:34 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Let’s not bring up immigration...

No elephant here...down Simba! Down boy!

13 posted on 05/26/2013 8:15:15 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Slings and Arrows

This conflicts rather dramatically with the records of actual IQ tests, which have been increasing steadily in what is called the Flynn Effect.


14 posted on 05/26/2013 8:15:20 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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What deep seeded thinking was involved here?


15 posted on 05/26/2013 8:15:31 PM PDT by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: Slings and Arrows

“How do you know she is a witch?”


16 posted on 05/26/2013 8:16:02 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Skip impeachment and move straight to deportation..)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Idiots breed... and they vote ... and look what they gave us!

17 posted on 05/26/2013 8:16:18 PM PDT by Zakeet (If idiots could fly, Washington would be an airport)
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To: Slings and Arrows

oh this is something a little inbreeding wont cure


18 posted on 05/26/2013 8:16:34 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Sherman Logan

*shrug* GIGO?


19 posted on 05/26/2013 8:17:09 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Let’s go back even further.

Those guys who built the pyramids were pretty clever.


20 posted on 05/26/2013 8:19:20 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Slings and Arrows

21 posted on 05/26/2013 8:19:48 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: LyinLibs

The world owes Dan Quayle an apology.


22 posted on 05/26/2013 8:21:10 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: jiggyboy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crdao-yNAIA


23 posted on 05/26/2013 8:21:27 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Flies in the face of what we’ve been told, that as societies become more intelligent, they become less religious. It seems our secular utopias are getting dumber and dumber.


24 posted on 05/26/2013 8:22:07 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Slings and Arrows

According to actual IQ tests, scores increase at an approximately equal rate in all societies. I’ve personally never heard a really logical reason for this.


25 posted on 05/26/2013 8:22:41 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: jiggyboy
re: That’s the premise of the movie “Idiocracy”

Love that movie. It gets truer every day. We are already living in an idiocracy.

26 posted on 05/26/2013 8:23:36 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Slings and Arrows

Television rots your brain. Especially sports and reality TV shows.


27 posted on 05/26/2013 8:23:39 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

The demographics of the West have also changed over the past hundred years. Members of these demographics consistently score lower on IQ tests so that’s a contributing factor to the lower average IQ of the West.

People also don’t critically think as much now as they once did. They have the TV tell them what to think, and calculators and computers to give them instant answers.


28 posted on 05/26/2013 8:23:41 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: Slings and Arrows

Robert Pirsig, in his book LILA, makes the strong argument that the brilliant Victorians charged their Soldiers across open fields where they were mowed down by machine guns and quick firing artillery. The survivors rebelled against the Victorians with the results you see today.


29 posted on 05/26/2013 8:24:05 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Slings and Arrows

And during the same period the Muzzie population increased by at least 14%


30 posted on 05/26/2013 8:25:05 PM PDT by lightman (Buzzed and buggered bath house Barry: the Benghazi bungler.)
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To: Viennacon

Best comment yet!


31 posted on 05/26/2013 8:26:40 PM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

It’s so easy to figure out, but politically incorrect to name! It’s nothing more or less than the unrestricted immigration from the low IQ countries into the West that accounts for this.


32 posted on 05/26/2013 8:26:44 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Leftists and muslims.

Add to any society and watch it descend way below orangutan level.


33 posted on 05/26/2013 8:27:03 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Slings and Arrows

Are these the same researchers who are part of the Western Civilization whose IQ’s have dropped 14 points?

Why should we believe them?


34 posted on 05/26/2013 8:27:13 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Slings and Arrows

Hmmm...just about the time that the teachers started organizing.


35 posted on 05/26/2013 8:27:43 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: Beowulf9

Uh...DERP?


36 posted on 05/26/2013 8:30:41 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Slings and Arrows

14 points? That’s all? I think who ever came up with that number is dyslexic.


37 posted on 05/26/2013 8:31:31 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods, Glenn Doherty and Sean Smith? Forgot already?)
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To: Slings and Arrows



38 posted on 05/26/2013 8:31:42 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I laughed. Then I cried.


39 posted on 05/26/2013 8:33:37 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Slings and Arrows

It’s all those warning labels on products. If chainsaws didn’t have a “Warning: don’t scratch back with blade while saw is running” label then natural selection would help keep things the way they were meant to be.


40 posted on 05/26/2013 8:33:54 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Nevadan

“We are already living in an idiocracy.”

My wife and I watched Idiocracy last night. Them first time I saw it I thought it was a comedy. Now I realize it is a documentary.


41 posted on 05/26/2013 8:35:50 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Western IQ’s have NOT dropped.

The West has been invaded by non-westerners!


42 posted on 05/26/2013 8:36:44 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
I stopped putting so much faith in IQ scores when I learned that Richard Feynman's IQ was just 125.

Richard Feynman - Nobel prize in Physics for the theory of quantum electrodynamics.

One of the coolest and smartest......ever.


43 posted on 05/26/2013 8:38:26 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

The worst part is that nowadays entire half the population is below the average IQ!


44 posted on 05/26/2013 8:39:05 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

The list of people and institutions directly responsible for this stretches out the door and around the block.

The beneficiaries? The advocates of Communism and Marxism.


45 posted on 05/26/2013 8:39:43 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Charles Darwin’s Theory of Evolution (often referred to as The Theory of Survival of the Fittest) describes the positive effects resulting from any “pressure” on an animal species that removes the least fit among the species and allows only the most fit of the species to reproduce. Many of us are well aware of this “Survival of the Fittest” theory, but few are aware that Darwin also makes mention of the negative effects resulting from unlimited reproduction of a species’ least fit when the weak, the lazy, and the stupid are left unchecked.

We like to think otherwise, but our species, Homo sapiens, isn’t that long “out of the trees” and the same laws of nature that affect all of God’s creatures apply equally to us. If we were to observe any other species that had been allowed to reproduce without limitations, we would know immediately what the consequences will be.

Whenever the weak; lazy; and stupid of a species is allowed to reproduce unimpeded by predators that feed off the weak; lazy; and stupid, they soon outnumber the strong, productive, and intelligent. When the weak/lazy/stupid dominate the gene pool, the entire population becomes weak/ lazy/stupid, and then the population collapses.

...and that’s the thesis of this thread.


46 posted on 05/26/2013 8:39:51 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: smokingfrog
Television rots your brain. Especially sports and reality TV shows.

Solution to that problem. Don't own one.

I don't. But if I did, I don't know when I'd find time to watch it.

47 posted on 05/26/2013 8:43:11 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Sherman Logan

IQ have been altered in order to not be racist.

Which is why if you look at the SAT scores for instance, there was a shift around the late 90’s.


48 posted on 05/26/2013 8:44:01 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

IQ scores for blacks have increased over the decades, but unfortunately for your theory the scores for white, blacks and Jews have increased at about the same rate.

So the differentials between the groups have remained pretty nearly constant.


49 posted on 05/26/2013 8:49:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: redgolum
If I'm not mistaken, didn't they propose to make the IQ tests reflect things besides reasoning intelligence, and instead call physical aptitude some kind of "intelligence"?

That guy runs REALLY fast! Give him a few points because he has "muscle intelligence".

50 posted on 05/26/2013 8:50:23 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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