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Author: Soviet agents subverted US in 1930s
The Daily Caller ^ | May 26, 2013 | Ginni Thomas

Posted on 05/26/2013 9:20:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Syndicated columnist Diana West says the ultimate conclusion of her new book shocked even her.

“Americans have been betrayed … by our leaders going back to FDR’s administration in the 1930s because we were penetrated by Soviet agents to such an extent that our policies and, indeed I argue, our character as a nation was subverted,” she explained in an interview with The Daily Caller’s Ginni Thomas about her book, “American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation’s Character.”

“I don’t believe we won World War II,” West added. “I believe that we were actually carrying out Soviet strategy due to this penetration.”

West says that though the United States helped defeat Hitler’s Germany, Joseph Stalin used the war to enlarge the boundaries of his Soviet empire by taking half of Europe.

“You replace Hitler, one monster of totalitarianism, with an even larger totalitarian monster, who killed even more millions of people,” West said.

“How do we look at that and say, ‘we won, we’re great. Triumphial.’ It just doesn’t compute. And I think we have again been victimized by a tremendous, in effect, influence campaign.”

West started writing the book, which reads like a thriller, in 2009. Throughout her research of available historical documents, she tried to reconcile her findings with countless footnotes, memoirs, State Department records, out-of-print books, letters and revelations in files from the Venona archive and the Mitrokhin archives that became available after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.....

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1 posted on 05/26/2013 9:20:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCarthy vindication ping!


2 posted on 05/26/2013 9:22:56 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

3 posted on 05/26/2013 9:23:07 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FDR was a tool. Why he is admired by otherwise sensible people is beyond my limited grasp.


4 posted on 05/26/2013 9:24:07 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

5 posted on 05/26/2013 9:25:03 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tail Gun Joe was right all along.


6 posted on 05/26/2013 9:25:09 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is also a fact that for roughly a century, communists concentrated considerable effort into subverting the American black community, and we are now reaping the bitter harvest. Strip away all the ethnic peculiarities of the afro-american culture, and it’s pure unaldulterated communist/socialist doctrine.


7 posted on 05/26/2013 9:28:41 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is well documented in "Stalin's Secret Agents: The Subversion of Roosevelt's Government" by M. Stanton Evans and Herbert Romerstein. Romerstein co-authored "The Venona Secrets" with Eric Breindel. Nobody understands Soviet subversion of the United States like Evans, Romerstein and Breindel.


8 posted on 05/26/2013 9:29:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s sad is that if you say anything bad about “The Good War” you get smeared. I hope I’m wrong, but I bet she won’t be invited on Fox News or any talk radio.

It’s always been a mystery why Dresden was firebombed when it was choked with refugees from the East. I’ve heard that it was to keep Stalin happy and I believe it.


9 posted on 05/26/2013 9:35:13 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: jtal

I know some college professors who pretty much worship him.


10 posted on 05/26/2013 9:36:48 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I cannot remember where I read FDR was very close to unknowingly naming a Soviet agent (spy) as his Sec State; might have been “The Shield and the Sword” by Vasili Mitrokhin (former KGB officer). At any rate, the ‘30s and ‘40s US/UK governments were likely thoroughly penetrated by the Soviets; from the Cambridge Five to the Rosenbergs. Maybe even the early CIA; read “A Wilderness of Mirrors” by David C. martin. This ebbed with the advent of the ‘50s cold war and yet took off again with the tumult of the ‘60s and continues to this day.

Regards from old Camp Red Cloud, the Chorwon Valley, and the Imjin Gang.


11 posted on 05/26/2013 9:37:49 PM PDT by Sine_Pari
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To: Sine_Pari

Pat Buchanan wrote a book recently about our involvement in WW2 being unnecessary. Did we do Iran’s dirty work in Iraq? Both countriesare now run by shites.


12 posted on 05/26/2013 9:41:24 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Pat didn’t have any family headed to the easy-bake ovens.


13 posted on 05/26/2013 9:47:57 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The real scandal is that assault continues unabated, and I believe it’s even accelerating today.


14 posted on 05/26/2013 9:50:57 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Did we do Iran’s dirty work in Iraq?

Back in the run-up to the war, I kept saying, "Of course Sadaam won't declare he doesn't have WMDs! His mortal enemies, against whom Iraq fought probably the bloodiest war since WWII are next door."

15 posted on 05/26/2013 9:55:17 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: All

they pretty much took over the entire federal agriculture department during the cold war (and today)


16 posted on 05/26/2013 9:57:00 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SandRat

Indeed he was. And they killed him.


17 posted on 05/26/2013 9:58:45 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone please inform Ms. Thomas that it actually started in 1917.


18 posted on 05/26/2013 9:59:51 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bttt


19 posted on 05/26/2013 10:00:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: longtermmemmory
they pretty much took over the entire federal agriculture department during the cold war (and today)

Oh. That explains Hank Kimball.

20 posted on 05/26/2013 10:00:40 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: SandRat

Absolutely!
He was a saint in our house.


21 posted on 05/26/2013 10:01:52 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course, but even WI turned against McCarthy. He would have been soundly defeated by Proxmire in 1958 had he lived. And Badgers actually though Proxmire was a fiscal hawk.


22 posted on 05/26/2013 10:02:26 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Hardraade

And they killed James Forrestal. And many more........


23 posted on 05/26/2013 10:05:54 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The two volumes of Rabbi Marvin S. Antelman's To Eliminate the Opiate make these incremental movements all too predictable. Gramsci simply put it in writing.

When Roosevelt's underlings rescued the principals of the the Frankfurt School from Germany, placing many of them in American universities, the President should have been impeached.

24 posted on 05/26/2013 10:08:07 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: SpaceBar
Strip away all the ethnic peculiarities of the afro-american culture, and it’s pure unaldulterated communist/socialist doctrine.

I'm from there, and I concur with that statement. In fact, I'd say that leftism has nearly supplanted Christianity as a religion in the black community. It's that bad.

25 posted on 05/26/2013 10:09:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Sine_Pari
John McCloy was involved in several policies that lead folks to that conclusion ~ that he was working for Stalin. One involves bombing rail lines leading to Auschwitz ~ he didn't, yet US bombers flew over the camp every bombing raid.

The other was his bombing list for using nukes on Japan. The field commander narrowing down the list elected to NOT bomb the ancient Japanese capital of Kyoto ~ yet McCloy seems to have been involved in putting Kyoto on the list. He also got involved in sending Japanese-American children and women to our own concentration camp system ~ which he might even have thought up on his own.

Seriously, FDR already promoted the guy!~

26 posted on 05/26/2013 10:10:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

I think evil had its plan of subversion right after and during the revolutionary war...just took it a little while to accomplish it’s crafty communist goals.


27 posted on 05/26/2013 10:12:36 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: SandRat
Indeed he was! And in today's upside-down world "McCarthyism" and "Swiftboating" both have pejorative connotations!

McCarthy was right all along, as the "Verona" files demonstrated.

Thanks to the vigilance and steadfastness of the Swift Boat Veterans, we have not had to endure the ignominy of a Kerry Administration.

Now, about those Commie bastards in Tinseltown . . .



"Riamh nár dhruid ó sbairn lann!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

28 posted on 05/26/2013 10:20:56 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Nailbiter

bflr


29 posted on 05/26/2013 10:23:56 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bookmark


30 posted on 05/26/2013 10:24:51 PM PDT by God pays good
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To: fabian
I think evil had its plan of subversion right after and during the revolutionary war...just took it a little while to accomplish it’s crafty communist goals.
Woodrow Wilson really helped us down the path to Statism.
31 posted on 05/26/2013 10:29:24 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whittaker Chambers has been vindicated.

His book Witness (1952) is a must read for anyone who wants to know the truth about Soviet penetration of DC in the 1930s and who Alger Hiss really was.


32 posted on 05/26/2013 10:32:29 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Sine_Pari

My father was threatened with court martial for sedition for discussing this stuff with other G.I.s. He shut up.

He was an interpreter/translator with German POWs at a camp in Florida. The prisoners were telling him what a mistake we were making with our “allies” in Russia. They told him that we should allow Patton to lead them (the Germans) to chase the Soviets back into Russia. This was around 1944.


33 posted on 05/26/2013 10:35:20 PM PDT by CPO retired
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

fdr called stalin “uncle joe”.Says all I need to know.


34 posted on 05/26/2013 10:36:31 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: fabian

I think evil had its plan of subversion right after and during the revolutionary war...just took it a little while to accomplish it’s crafty communist goals.


I believe you are exactly right. EVIL is root cause.


35 posted on 05/26/2013 10:36:44 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: exit82
I read recently that Kruschev's comment "We will bury you" was actually mistranslated. In Russian, he said: "We will be there at your funeral".

And he seems to be correct.

And apparently 52% of Americans just can't wait for their own "funerals".

36 posted on 05/26/2013 10:37:31 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: jtal

Even my Father thinks FDR was a good man, though I have recently set the story straight with him. My Dad was born in 1931 and to him, the jobs programs started by FDR were a good thing. He was one of a family of 9 children, when poverty was REAL, so I can understand where he comes from.


37 posted on 05/26/2013 10:37:41 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: muawiyah

McCloy was also intrumental in seeing that many jailed Nazi’s got out of prison early or weren’t executed.


38 posted on 05/26/2013 10:42:18 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FDR was certainly under the influence of Stalin’s agents both in how he conducted World War II and how the peace terms were settled. For instance, Churchill wanted to invade Europe directly from North Africa instead of coming through Normandy, which was Stalin’s preference because it gave him more opportunity to gain ground in Eastern Europe. However it’s a bit much for the author to conclude that we didn’t win the war. Stalin did not get everything his own way—despite FDR’s lapses, there were other forces at work in determining U.S. actions. For instance, Stalin’s agents wanted to de-industrialize Germany as part of the peace terms; they did not get that, largely due to resistance from representatives of Wall Street who also had some say in U.S. policy. W. Averell Harriman reported that during his last month of life FDR finally realized Stalin had been using him and was angry about it. By the time Truman came in, the pro-Soviet faction of the State Department represented by people like Alger Hiss was facing growing resistance from others wary of the Soviet threat. Truman had little patience with the Soviet diplomat when they tried to lie to him the way they’d been doing to FDR and basically told him off. When Truman dropped the bomb on Japan, it was not part of the Soviet game plan, and Stalin had to accelerate his timetable in Asia rapidly. We did win the war, but we would have won more quickly and won the peace terms more decisively if FDR had been more vigilant against Stalin’s influence.


39 posted on 05/26/2013 10:49:14 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: fabian
I think evil had its plan of subversion right after and during the revolutionary war...

That's a good point. Washington put down the Whiskey Rebellion with federal troops and Adams pushed through the Alien & Sedition Act. And Jefferson created the precedent for all these 3rd World undeclared wars. If truly great men like that could do tyrannical things, what hope is there?

Democracy failed us long ago.

40 posted on 05/26/2013 10:50:21 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FDR had a top tax rate of 94% and proposed a 100% top rate. Looking at that its obvious Communists influenced his regime.


41 posted on 05/26/2013 10:51:37 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

MUST READ
THE ROOSEVELT MYTH
http://mises.org/books/rooseveltmyth.pdf


42 posted on 05/26/2013 11:04:05 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Telling the truth about RINOS, PAULTARDS, Liberals and Muslims has become hate speech)
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To: Sine_Pari
unknowingly naming a Soviet agent (spy) as his Sec State

FDR was warned....so was Truman; they didn't care.

Checkout "Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy."

Hiss' damage wasn't caused by the information he revealed....it was his effect on policy (see Red China becoming Red China for example)

The powers that be knew all along via the VENONA Project in which we were decoding Soviet transmissions that indicated Hiss (and others) was guilty.

43 posted on 05/26/2013 11:17:12 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: RaceBannon

I will never forgive FDR because he promoted “Operation Keelhaul,” the U.S. policy of allowing the Soviets to forcibly return or kill Russian citizens who ended up in Europe at the end of the war.

My husband and I knew a colonel who was in Patton’s army and he told a very sad story of witnessing the Soviets shooting the ones who didn’t want to be rounded up.


44 posted on 05/26/2013 11:25:29 PM PDT by Liberty Wins
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To: Liberty Wins

>>>I will never forgive FDR because he promoted “Operation Keelhaul,” the U.S. policy of allowing the Soviets to forcibly return or kill Russian citizens who ended up in Europe at the end of the war.

My husband and I knew a colonel who was in Patton’s army and he told a very sad story of witnessing the Soviets shooting the ones who didn’t want to be rounded up.<<<

A lot of people were sent back to USSR from United States as well at the time. Including numerous anti-communists who has immigrated long before WWII.


45 posted on 05/26/2013 11:42:50 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Liberty Wins

99% of Americans don’t know about it. Or won’t believe it.

I once spoke with a man who claimed he saw a woman holding a baby jump off a bridge rather than be repatriated.


46 posted on 05/26/2013 11:46:21 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

See 1949 “Red Danube” with Walter Pidgeon, Peter Lawford, Angela Lansbury, Janet Leigh and Ethel Barrymore.


47 posted on 05/26/2013 11:53:22 PM PDT by Liberty Wins
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SandRat; Tailgunner Joe
I think it is time for many at this site to download the pdf book form None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen that can be found at this download site.

Over the years at this site it appears so many are literally clueless as to the many things that took place around the Wilson era, upward into FDR, and then afterward.
They should at least spend the time to wade through this book to get a good idea as where this country went during the turn of the century.

The book can be downloaded here. It has some real bad news to consider: HERE

Perhaps it will be frond upon by some. But all that is in it is back up with many other sources over the years.

All history should be carefully evaluated. We cannot afford to have our heads in the sand. Though at this juncture in time it just may not matter.

48 posted on 05/26/2013 11:54:00 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whoops. Tis 2:55AM EST.. Time for the sack. Logging out. Do have a great upcoming day.


49 posted on 05/26/2013 11:56:06 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Take care.


50 posted on 05/26/2013 11:56:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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