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Child welfare 'named person' plans questioned by MSPs (every child 'assigned' govt worker-Scotland)
BBC ^ | 4/30/2013

Posted on 05/27/2013 6:41:59 AM PDT by autumnraine

Every child in Scotland would be appointed a 'named person' from birth under new legislation

Government plans to provide every child in Scotland with a "named person" have been questioned by MSPs.

Under legislation set out in the Children and Young People Bill, every child would be assigned a named person, such as a health worker, from birth.

The adult would be responsible for safeguarding the child's welfare.

MSPs from Holyrood's Public Petitions Committee pressed Children's Minister Aileen Campbell on how such a measure would work in practice.

SNP MSP John Wilson asked how children would be made aware that they had a named person, and how that named person would be identified to the child. Continue reading the main story “Start Quote

How in practice does that really establish a bond of confidence on which people feel they can rely?”

Jackson Carlaw Conservative MSP

"How do we make sure that this named person is actually identified to the young person, and the young person has the confidence and the ability to actually directly speak to that named individual?" he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 05/27/2013 6:41:59 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine

Normally they are called parents. What is government trying to do?


2 posted on 05/27/2013 6:43:37 AM PDT by edcoil (If you can't change the rules, then ignore them.)
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To: autumnraine

This is creepy and insulting. How is a social worker supposedly going to be better or more concerned over a child than its parents?

This is implying that most families are abusive and that all children need to be shielded from their parents.

Not to mention, it’s a lovely way to raise a generation to think with uniform values...


3 posted on 05/27/2013 6:45:10 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: autumnraine

Replacing God’s two “named persons” with ______ .


4 posted on 05/27/2013 6:47:27 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (God Bless America)
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To: edcoil

I don’t know how this can even fiscally practical. Basically, just birthing a child gets you a CPS case.

This is probably the most terrifying thing I have read. That it is even being proposed is frightening.


5 posted on 05/27/2013 6:48:11 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine
Beyond bizarre.

Will they have gov't funded imamns to watch over the kiddies?

6 posted on 05/27/2013 6:48:44 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Shadow44

There is great anger and disquiet in Scotland over this, as the Bill got little media attention and sneaked in through the back door so to speak.


7 posted on 05/27/2013 6:51:20 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: autumnraine

Scotland? “FREEDOM!” - ya, right....


8 posted on 05/27/2013 6:56:10 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything. Bolshies' gonna bolsh.)
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To: autumnraine; edcoil; pax_et_bonum; Paladin2

This is a Bill, it isnt law yet. There is still time to defeat the Bill or at least remove its most unwanted parts.

Scottish MSP’s are already uneasy about it, and there is growing media/public disquiet.


9 posted on 05/27/2013 6:58:19 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: autumnraine

“Guardian angel”? “Handler”? “Custodian”? “Ball and Chain”?


10 posted on 05/27/2013 6:59:38 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Sadly, we are the most nanny state part of the UK, as leftwing parties rule and there is little conservative opposition.

We arent sheep, but we arent the Scottish lion of old.


11 posted on 05/27/2013 7:00:02 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: autumnraine

“MSPs from Holyrood’s Public Petitions Committee pressed Children’s Minister Aileen Campbell on how such a measure would work in practice.”

Forget that the very premise on which this type of legislation is based is anti-God, anti-freedom, and anti-family. These chowder heads (haggis brains?) are asking how it would work! Not, “On what basis do we find this to be anything but abhorrent?” Not, “Isn’t this a parent’s duty?”

Nope! Just a blind acceptance of the misguided, socialist notion that government does everything better than the individual; that government knows what is best for every single person, from the cradle to the grave.

I fear freedom is perched precariously on the precipice of the cesspool that is socialism, all around the world. And, there may not be enough of us to keep it from falling over the edge.


12 posted on 05/27/2013 7:03:30 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: autumnraine

Impossible to disipline a child if they have another adult to manipulate. It amazes me how foolish people who think they are wise are.


13 posted on 05/27/2013 7:07:42 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: jimfree

The correct term is Commisar.


14 posted on 05/27/2013 7:11:15 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: the scotsman

Diversified Lion

15 posted on 05/27/2013 7:12:03 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: autumnraine

nothing like nanny govt trusting people to bear and raise their own young, eh?

Scots, yer govt thinks you are stupid rasist fundie and (pick a pejorative) yobs who need govt supervision to raise yer bairns


16 posted on 05/27/2013 7:16:44 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Kozak

Yes, Commissar, you nailed it.


17 posted on 05/27/2013 7:17:51 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: the scotsman

I hope you guys can defeat this horror of a Bill.


18 posted on 05/27/2013 7:18:13 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

Already here surreptitiously, unfolding under Obamacare.


19 posted on 05/27/2013 7:21:32 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: the scotsman

“Minister Aileen Campbell” is insane and the people that voted for her need sever counseling.


20 posted on 05/27/2013 7:23:23 AM PDT by edcoil (If you can't change the rules, then ignore them.)
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To: autumnraine
In 1975, in a Massachusetts public jr. high school, my junior high, our Social Studies teacher told us about how in the Soviet Union, children were taken from their parents at birth, and placed in nurseries, and from there, day care and school.

The teacher said it was a wonderful system, since women would be free to work.

And here we are.

21 posted on 05/27/2013 7:24:41 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: edcoil

Scotland has a greater reliance on welfare than England. They’re trying to simplify matters by simply assigning a social worker from birth. Unfortunately, it also assumes that every child is a ward of the state from birth and that all parents are incapable of acting without government supervision.
This is one step short of taking children from birth to live in state institutions.


22 posted on 05/27/2013 7:24:43 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: autumnraine

Watch pedophilia and child abuse skyrocket....and the govt refuse to punish “named persons”

A pedophiles wet dream....the govt gives you kids....pedos would love to be named persons


23 posted on 05/27/2013 7:27:57 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: autumnraine

This named custodial, non-parental adult will be, at minimum, 20 years old when the *life-long* relationship begins, or even older. At some point, the assigned watchdog will age out of the system, at minimum by the time the *child* is 40. What happens then? And will the *child* eventually become responsible for the elder care of the watchdog?

Or does *life* mean “until the child is considered adult”?

I am old enough to have watched numerous non-related babies grow to adulthood. Many of these have become adults with whom I no longer care to associate. In most cases, this is despite their well-intentioned parents’ best efforts. So, if this proposal becomes law, when does the watchdog’s responsibility end? And is the relationship strictly one-sided? If so, it isn’t a relationship, per se.


24 posted on 05/27/2013 7:29:38 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: autumnraine

It’s already here. In Minnesota I was on unemployment for 2 months, and that was ten years ago. The nannies are still trying to meddle, and I’m in Texas. So this is the direction it goes. Not only when a child is born a permanent government case is generated, but any time you get anything such as unemployment, disability, or maybe so much as a traffic ticket.


25 posted on 05/27/2013 7:36:12 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Shadow44

They have the best Government training available. I have the best government military training available. Don’t come to my house.


26 posted on 05/27/2013 8:32:58 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: autumnraine

Brave New World

parents will be abolished some day


27 posted on 05/27/2013 8:42:53 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tbw2

I am sure William Wallace would be proud of his people today.


28 posted on 05/27/2013 9:03:58 AM PDT by edcoil (If you can't change the rules, then ignore them.)
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To: the scotsman

“We arent sheep, but we arent the Scottish lion of old.”

Oh, but you are still stubborn bast**ds once you get stirred up enough. The thistle is your national symbol, after all. Hopefully, disquiet you describe turns into a shout.


29 posted on 05/27/2013 11:41:18 AM PDT by Owl558 (Those who remember George Santayana are doomed to repeat him)
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To: autumnraine

Scotland USSE.


30 posted on 05/27/2013 11:50:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tbw2

It also implies that you would never move (by the time I was four, I had lived in three foreign countries and four different states - left my birth state at six months and never saw it again until recently. It also implies that the social worker will never change jobs, get ill or die.
Completely impossible to sustain or enforce.


31 posted on 05/27/2013 12:51:13 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: tbw2

It also implies that you would never move (by the time I was four, I had lived in three foreign countries and four different states - left my birth state at six months and never saw it again until recently. It also implies that the social worker will never change jobs, get ill or die.
Completely impossible to sustain or enforce.


32 posted on 05/27/2013 12:51:39 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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