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Woolwich attack: Thousands of Muslims gather in London to condemn murder of soldier Lee Rigby
Belfast Telegraph ^ | 27th May 2013 | Gary Fennelly

Posted on 05/27/2013 7:02:53 AM PDT by the scotsman

'Around five thousand Muslims gathered at Morden mosque on Friday to condemn the murder of 25-year-old soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich, south-east London.

The gathering of British Muslims from across the country took place at Western Europe's largest Mosque.

Worshippers offered prayers for Drummer Rigby and his family and expressed solidarity against extremism.

National president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association UK Rafiq Hayat said: "We stand united with the rest of the country in sharing the deep sorrow and pain following the horrific senseless attack on Wednesday.

"Our thoughts and prayers are with the family of Drummer Lee Rigby. We hope that the perpetrators of this crime, that is based on a twisted and warped ideology, are brought to justice.

"Islam is a religion of compassion and peace; a religion which considers the killing of an individual akin to killing the whole of humankind. Such acts of violence, therefore, have absolutely no place in Islam and can never be justified."'

(Excerpt) Read more at belfasttelegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ukmuslims; woolwich
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To: Netz

I’ve been saying that for years on this site. Those swords on the Saudi flag aren’t an advertisement for a fencing class. Like you said: “Wake the hell up people!”


21 posted on 05/27/2013 7:23:57 AM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2013! Geaux, Pack, Geaux!)
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To: the scotsman

Everything in and about Islam is a lie.

To believe a muzzie is to be as stupid as a liberal.

Which, of course, explains a lot.


22 posted on 05/27/2013 7:25:18 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: the scotsman

Maybe Rafiq Hayat has been speaking out for a long time and I never knew.

The speech he made at this gathering is more than enough to put a target on his back.

Found this:

http://www.thepersecution.org/news/10/inuk0528.html

Does anyone know about this?


23 posted on 05/27/2013 7:29:47 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (God Bless America)
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To: the scotsman

This is the classic good cop, bad cop.

They realized that they may have crossed a line best uncrossed (until they were ready to go all out)

These protest are only meant to muddy the water so no organized resistant can be formed.

Islam is at war with western nations and the citizens of those nations whether or not the citizens or the elite leadership acknowledge it.


24 posted on 05/27/2013 7:29:53 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: the scotsman

taqqiya


25 posted on 05/27/2013 7:30:50 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Bullfrogg

Exactly


26 posted on 05/27/2013 7:31:52 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: PLD

“Islam is a religion of compassion and peace; a religion which considers the killing of an individual akin to killing the whole of humankind. Such acts of violence, therefore, have absolutely no place in Islam and can never be justified.”’

Bullcrap.

Watch this (WARNING VERY GRAPHIC!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtxLm19459k&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DgtxLm19459k&has_verified=1


27 posted on 05/27/2013 7:35:10 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: the scotsman

There is Jihad of the sword, and Jihad of the word. This taqqiya is the latter.


28 posted on 05/27/2013 7:47:40 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: carriage_hill

VIDEO IS TRULY HORRENDOUS!


29 posted on 05/27/2013 7:49:46 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (True Haters HATE Truth!)
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To: the scotsman

Sorry...One big showy service does not negate 1400 YEARS of “Death to the Infidel!!!!”, “Allahu Akabar!!!”, “Convert or Die!!!!”.

Sorry if I sound a bit jaded.


30 posted on 05/27/2013 7:55:23 AM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: carriage_hill
THANKS!!!

I will be sure to pass this on to others..

No one can hate those bastards as much as I do..people can waste their breath all day in saying these savages are good but they are just fooling themselves and others..The SOB muslims every last one would slit your throat when they got the opportunity to do so..

31 posted on 05/27/2013 8:04:52 AM PDT by PLD
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To: the scotsman

2 steps forward, 1 step back!


32 posted on 05/27/2013 8:06:09 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: the scotsman

Yawn..


33 posted on 05/27/2013 8:06:45 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Skip impeachment and move straight to deportation..)
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To: DEADROCK
Cunning indeed.
"Worshippers offered prayers for Drummer Rigby and his family and expressed solidarity against extremism".

Offered prayers? Which prayers would those be? Since the prayers are recited in Arabic, few non-Muslims (and many Muslims) realize how anti-Semitic and anti-Christian the Muslim prayers actually are. However, most Muslims are aware of that du'a for non-Muslims (mushrik, infidel, ) is inappropriate :

"Quran: {The infidels are your sworn enemies Sura 4:101} ... they would have considered him a "mushrik"—that is, an idolater (polytheist) or simply, an infidel."

God says in the Quran: {It is not for the Prophet and those who have believed to ask forgiveness for the polytheists, even if they were relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are companions of Hellfire.}(at-Tawba, 9:113)

So what exactly would these 'thousands' of devout Muslims pray to benefit community cohesion and Drummer Rigby? My bet it a recording of that service would be quite revealing, and I look forward to such a disclosure and followup discussion.

Some info about Muslim prayers:

"Muslim prayers, on the other hand, follow a very elaborate, seventeen-part formula. The full cycle of a prayer is called a rak’a, and it includes bowing, kneeling, and reciting certain phrases and statements in a specified sequence.

These prayers are repeated five times a day, and each prayer includes multiple rak’as. While there is room for a spontaneous supplication in the dawn prayer, the rest of the prayers stick to a strict formula.

The guidelines for prayer cover 118 pages in Reliance of the Traveler, 166 pages in The Guidance (Al-Hidayah), and 273 pages in Fiqh us-Sunnah. . ."

So, what do Muslims actually pray for?

The only supplication in the rak’a is the recitation of Al-Fatihah (Surah 1 of the Quran).

This is what they pray for:

  • Guide us to the straight path,
  • the path of those whom You have favored,
  • Not of those who have incurred your wrath,
  • nor of those who have gone astray.

The phrase ‘those who have incurred your wrath” comes from Surah 2:61 which says,

Shame and misery were stamped upon [the Israelites] and they incurred the wrath of Allah; because they disbelieved Allah’s signs and slew His prophets unjustly; because they were rebels and transgressors.

The phrase “those who have gone astray” comes from Surah 4:44 which says,

Consider those to whom a portion of the Scriptures was given [i.e., Christians]. They purchase error for themselves and wish to see you go astray.

So the only supplication in the standard Muslim prayer is asking Allah to keep the Muslim from the path of the Jews and Christians. This prayer is recited seventeen times a day by devout Muslims.

The Friday prayer is even more offensive to Jews and Christians, as it requires not only two recitations of Al-Fatihah, but also

With regard to funerals:

"The service starts with the takbir (saying Allahu Akbar - aka allah is greatest), with the pronouncement of which hands are raised to the ears and placed in the same position as in prayer. After the takbir, istiftah (see p. 11) and the Fatiha are recited in a low voice by the lmam as well as those who follow. Then follows a second takbir without raising the hands to the ears, and the dhikr known as as-sala `ala Nabiyy recited in a low voice. The third takbir is then pronounced in a manner similar to the second takbir, and a prayer for the forgiveness of the deceased is addressed to God. Different forms of this prayer are reported as having been offered by the Holy Prophet, and it seems that prayer in any form is permissible."

34 posted on 05/27/2013 8:12:54 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Silentgypsy

Me thinks the Muzzies are sensing we’ve had just about enuf of their nonsense and are gearing up for a major Muzzie a$$ kicking of epic proportions. We’re talking raiding their temples, uncovering their hidden weapons caches and burning it to the ground. I think they sense this right now and it’s the only reason they’re convening; to give the impression they’re concerned. Yeah maybe 5%; the rest are cheering behind closed doors.


35 posted on 05/27/2013 8:13:21 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: the scotsman

Perhaps the “Muzzies” are frightened for going too far. Little do they know they have no real reason to fear as no significant number of Westerners will do a d*mned thing.


36 posted on 05/27/2013 8:14:56 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: the scotsman

If these Muslims really gave a rats ass they would be turning in the radicals urging jihad and throwing them out of their mosques.


37 posted on 05/27/2013 8:29:07 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Big Red Badger

That’s “their world” x 1,000, everyday. The Crusades were nothing compared to what we’re going to have to do to get rid of them from the Civilized World.


38 posted on 05/27/2013 8:30:58 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: PLD

Bingo; I join you 100% in the hate of them and their spreading death cult.


39 posted on 05/27/2013 8:32:58 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: the scotsman

Thousands of muslims? Thousands of liars.


40 posted on 05/27/2013 8:41:25 AM PDT by abclily
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