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Sales of camp sites nationwide throw Girl Scouts into turmoil
FoxNews.com ^ | May 27, 2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/27/2013 9:50:12 AM PDT by servo1969

OWA CITY, Iowa – When it came time to draw up a budget, one of Iowa's regional Girl Scout councils reviewed its programs and made a proposal that would have been unthinkable a generation ago: selling its last four summer camps.

Troop leader Joni Kinsey was stunned. For decades, the camps had been cherished places where thousands of young girls spent summer breaks hiking, huddling around campfires and building friendships. Kinsey, whose daughter learns to train horses at camp, immediately started a petition to fight the idea.

Other scouting alums and volunteers have taken up the cause, too, packing public meetings, sending letters to newspapers and recording a protest song for YouTube. When those efforts failed, they filed a lawsuit.

Nationwide, Girl Scout councils are confronting intense opposition as they sell camps that date back to the 1950s and earlier. Leaders say the properties have become a financial drain at a time when girls are less interested in camp. Defenders insist the camping experience shaped who they are and must be preserved for future generations.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: boy; camp; girl; scout
My opinion -

Well, what did they expect? They turned their back on their traditions years ago. Why should people think of the Girls Scouts as being anything special if they're just like every other youth club? Hell, take away the cookies and they're just a glorified YMCA.

The same will now happen to the Boy Scouts. In fact, I believe it will happen to them even faster. Why should people allow them to influence their children if they disagree with their core position?

Both Scouts were organizations that were based on timeless Christian values. Now they have decided money is more important than principles and tradition. And the safety of the children's souls, for that matter.

Now they are both just secular kids group. What's the point? There is no longer anything special about either of them.

1 posted on 05/27/2013 9:50:12 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969
Girl scouts long ago were transformed into a radical feminist/anti-gun/anti-hunting organization.
2 posted on 05/27/2013 9:57:49 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: servo1969

Social upheaval is a bitch and it never turns out well.


3 posted on 05/27/2013 9:58:45 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: servo1969

it is becoming safer to keep scouts away from camps now. girlscouts went full bore open lesbo awhile ago.


4 posted on 05/27/2013 9:59:17 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: servo1969

Yep, why need a camp to teach to ward off dangerous animals and disease in the woods when you just can embrace it amongst ourselves in bedrooms. Besides, it’s less work and more money for organizers and corrupt “trustees”.


5 posted on 05/27/2013 9:59:30 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

GS went south a long time ago, partnering with Planned Parenthood and accepting all sorts of immoral crap


6 posted on 05/27/2013 9:59:48 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Beagle8U

And they can stuff their government cookies crap too. This girlscout cookie is so unhealthy in the ingredients. Typical Michelle O craving, though.


7 posted on 05/27/2013 10:01:55 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: servo1969

Membership numbers here.
http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/443_boy_scouts_and_girl_scouts_membership.html


8 posted on 05/27/2013 10:02:14 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: GeronL

We look forward to the day when we are not bombarded out side of businesses and at our doors with their cookie pushing.

Planned Parenthood supporters.

the girls don’t know. It’s the ignorant mothers.


9 posted on 05/27/2013 10:02:46 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Beagle8U
Combine the girl scouts with the boy scouts and we will really have diversion of sexual persuasion
10 posted on 05/27/2013 10:05:16 AM PDT by shadeaud (We need to learn to know what our enemies are truly creating)
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To: servo1969
A LOT of us have kept the traditions going at the troop level

but factually a lot of the camps have been so neglected the costs to rehab them are now very high

of course as the camps deteriorated less troops wanted to or were able to use them, so catch-22

it is unfortunate for the people and families who donated this land to GS to see it so mismanaged, neglected and finally sold off for developers. But then an awful lot of the paid staff now running GS Councils have never even been GS in troops, or troop leaders, and thus have no memory of troop camping to even be aware of what they are losing
Most of them seem to see GS an an equal opportunity wymyns rights organization to train future CEO’s, not a girl led program that teaches leadership self sufficiency emergency preparedness and respect for nature by spending time outdoors in girl-led skill's and decision-making activities

Once the camps are gone so is GS for all intents and purposes

GS will be an after school activity with a paper membership roster, to show “diversity”, to justify the professional adult staff continuing to fundraise and beg for corporate grants and donations

not much more

11 posted on 05/27/2013 10:05:56 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Beagle8U

not


12 posted on 05/27/2013 10:06:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Secret Agent Man

not


13 posted on 05/27/2013 10:06:30 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: stanne

The girls do know when they are handed PP brochures.


14 posted on 05/27/2013 10:09:47 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: silverleaf

they allow openlesbians as leaders and scouts they allow boys who think they are girls to join. they partner with planed parenthood. not my definition of a safe place to putyou Godly Christian daughter for a few weeks.


15 posted on 05/27/2013 10:11:58 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: servo1969
Leaders say the properties have become a financial drain at a time when girls are less interested in camp.

I imagine they're more interested in having sleepovers at the mall.

16 posted on 05/27/2013 10:11:59 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

well you can always send her to YMCA camp

or out to a church camp, since the Episcopalians and Methodists and Presbys among other always screen their youth leaders and counselors for lesbianism and pedophilia

or maybe just send her to a summer sports camp or join a traveling sporta team- no lesbianism or pedo’s there to tempt your Godly Christian daughter, friend

sarc

btw, factually speaking, 2 yrs ago one Council forced one troop leader to allow one screwed up 6 yr old boy to register as a GS


17 posted on 05/27/2013 10:22:39 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

LOL! Mall sleepovers (actually up all night, no one sleeps) have become big events in the wintertime!
The girls do have a blast!


18 posted on 05/27/2013 10:24:19 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf; FlingWingFlyer

Mall sleepovers? Now there’s the sort of values I want to teach my kids....not!


19 posted on 05/27/2013 10:27:28 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: servo1969

Wasn’t a recent girl scout CEO a lesbian?


20 posted on 05/27/2013 10:36:06 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: silverleaf

http://bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=25503


21 posted on 05/27/2013 10:40:06 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: servo1969

From:

http://www.100questionsforthegirlscouts.org/100/feminism.cfm

“Sylvia R Garcia - Prominent abortion rights advocate, CEO of NALEO which collaborates with Planned Parenthood, Catholics for Choice, and Emily’s List, praised by Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards.”

Planned Parenthood CEO - Cecile Richards

Cecile Richards is a Board of Trustees member of the Ford Foundation:

http://www.fordfoundation.org/about-us/leadership/cecile-richards

Ford Foundation annual expenditures:

over $500 million. This is used to fund programs and agendas of the world financial “oligarchy”.

Ford Foundation assets:

over $10 billion. There is no Federal Income tax due on the investment income from these assets.

The boards of directors of virtually all Wall Street, banking, investment banking, insurance, etc., firms support these agendas.

The boards of directors of virtually all US publicly-held corporations also support these agendas.


22 posted on 05/27/2013 10:43:31 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: servo1969

That’s what happens when the people stop buying the cookies because the Girl Scouts accept lesbians and the killing of babies in the womb.


23 posted on 05/27/2013 10:43:55 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: servo1969

YMCA and YWCA also support abortion. They will soon go bye-bye in the night too.


24 posted on 05/27/2013 10:44:51 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: servo1969

Of course. They used the money to buy up some motels, so it’s much more comfortable when they seduce the younger Girl Scouts. . .


25 posted on 05/27/2013 10:49:01 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: servo1969

wonder how much they want for em


26 posted on 05/27/2013 10:49:49 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Salvation
Why didn't parents stop it when it first started...in Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts? It didn't happen overnight!

Parents have to take some responsibility for what Scouts have become...over several decades.

27 posted on 05/27/2013 10:54:57 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: rockrr

Oh yeah, mall lockins are nights when hundreds of pre teen girls spend the night roaming around 30 different stations in the Mall, supervised by adults and teenage girls, learning to do things like tie knots and make crafts climb rock walls and dance and just hanging out and goofing with their buddies

definitely godless values

why, instead they could have been drinking, facebook posting and texting pictures of themselves at some friend’s party


28 posted on 05/27/2013 11:09:23 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: servo1969

Could not help but think of Shelley Long and Troop Beverly Hills...


29 posted on 05/27/2013 11:12:21 AM PDT by EBH (The government that sits in Washington, D.C. is not the United States government.)
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To: GeronL
GS went south a long time ago, partnering with Planned Parenthood and accepting all sorts of immoral crap

Which is why our daughter did not become a girl scout, however because we could still trust the BSA, three of our sons became Eagles.

30 posted on 05/27/2013 11:19:45 AM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: servo1969
the properties have become a financial drain at a time when girls are less interested in camp.

When the only thing the girl scouts are known for is selling expensive cookies, then hellooo, there's a problem. The cookie sales left a bad taste in my mouth 30-40 years ago but I tried to set it aside when mine were old enough to join. They lasted about 2-3 months and were begging to drop out. We went the 4-H route where you can still run the clubs as you wish.

31 posted on 05/27/2013 11:32:33 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: servo1969

The Girl Scouts opened its arms to lesbians and Planned Parenthood, which is why some parents choose band and sports instead and why we’re in American Heritage Girls.


32 posted on 05/27/2013 11:35:32 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: servo1969

Myguess is that when they started supporting abortions, they lost their supporters.


33 posted on 05/27/2013 11:43:24 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Beagle8U

Just one of the unintended consequences of electing bho.


34 posted on 05/27/2013 12:45:38 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

They can hold their annual jamborees at Planned Parenthood abattoirs. Beyond that, why would they need campsites?


35 posted on 05/27/2013 1:29:33 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: servo1969; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Finatic; fellowpatriot; ...
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36 posted on 05/27/2013 1:37:15 PM PDT by narses
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To: silverleaf

Really? The Methodists here in CA are all Open Hearts Open Minds and embrace the homo agenda.


37 posted on 05/27/2013 1:42:40 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: servo1969

Summer camps in general are suffering greatly from the trend to year-round schooling, on top of the lazy, spoiled, pussified culture of modern childhood. Kids are just not interested in outdoor pursuits these days of television, computers, and video games..


38 posted on 05/27/2013 1:45:18 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: stanne

Many of the Mom’s know. My wife brought it up with some friends once, and they said they were glad the Girl Scouts supported PP.

So my daughter will never be a Girl Scout. That is ok, she wants to hunt deer.


39 posted on 05/27/2013 1:45:31 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: lonestar

In any non profit, the people on the ground level don’t make policy. The MBA’s brought in to “manage” the non profit do.

A friend of mine worked at a Lutheran camp that went non religious so the local cults could have someplace to dance naked around the fire. No joke

Lots of money in non profits.


40 posted on 05/27/2013 1:47:25 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: servo1969

Won’t be long until the Boy Scouts will find themselves in the exact same predicament.


41 posted on 05/27/2013 1:49:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: tbw2

My granddaughters are also in AHG. They love to camp.


42 posted on 05/27/2013 1:53:35 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: servo1969
They don't need camps, they'll make do with the streets and learning how to run a protest or flash mob. The same people that drove the homo and Planned Parenthood agenda will now drive turning the GS into being an urban youth arm of the democrat fascist party.

It's another try to establish the democrat fascist youth like the Hitler Youth were. The "Job Corps" didn't work, everything else they've tried as an alternative didn't work, so now they figure that if they take over the existing Scouting groups they'll finally be able to build an alternative to the military to fulfill what King Barry said he wanted when he ran for King the first time.

43 posted on 05/27/2013 2:27:25 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Salgak

Actually about 15 years ago they did install air conditioners in upstate South Carolina GS camps...I’m not sure if they were GS-owned or not...”really roughing it, “I thought. But maybe there were ulterior motives.


44 posted on 05/27/2013 2:52:53 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: GeronL

“GS went south a long time ago, partnering with Planned Parenthood and accepting all sorts of immoral crap”

Their silence on the gay scoutmaster issue was deafening; in my area (northern NJ) these groups are rarely seen anymore.


45 posted on 05/27/2013 3:54:58 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: dfwgator

“Won’t be long until the Boy Scouts will find themselves in the exact same predicament.”

In northern NJ BS troops are consolidating and selling camps; interest among Americans was already declining due to less and less time spent camping, and the “replacement Americans” don’t trust anyone with custody of their children overnight (understandably).


46 posted on 05/27/2013 3:56:51 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ccmay

“Summer camps in general are suffering greatly from the trend to year-round schooling, on top of the lazy, spoiled, pussified culture of modern childhood.”

Demographics play no small role in this as well; many of the “replacement Americans” would never allow their children to sleep elsewhere overnight. “Christian values” aren’t a selling point to replacement Americans who are Hindus and Muslims (at least in northern NJ).


47 posted on 05/27/2013 4:00:10 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: servo1969
The Girls Scouts threw themselves into turmoil years ago when they allowed Planned Parenthood to infiltrate their curriculum.

My girls are in American Heritage Girls and they love it! Unfortunately, a lot of their activities partnered with the Boy Scouts ... but now AHG has no choice but to distance themselves from them.

48 posted on 05/27/2013 4:31:33 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: servo1969

Girl Scouts have to fill out a form to light a candle.

No lie. The parents have to sign off on “fire”.


49 posted on 05/27/2013 4:32:35 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: servo1969

50 posted on 05/29/2013 12:23:07 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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