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The Real Voter Suppression of 2012 - Voter ID didn’t reduce turnout, but the IRS may have.
National Review Online ^ | May 23, 2013 | John Fund

Posted on 05/27/2013 9:23:42 PM PDT by neverdem

The 2012 election season was filled with angry cries of “voter suppression,” almost all of them regarding attempts by states to require voter ID and otherwise improve ballot integrity. Bill Clinton warned that “there has never been — in my lifetime, since we got rid of the poll tax and all the other Jim Crow burdens on voting — the determined effort to limit the franchise that we see today.” Democratic-party chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said “photo-ID laws, we think, are very similar to a poll tax.”

All of this proved to be twaddle. An August 2012 Washington Post poll showed nearly two-thirds of African-Americans and Hispanics backing photo ID. The Census Bureau has found that the rate of voter turnout for blacks exceeded that of whites for the first time in the 2012 election.

But it now turns out there may have suppression of the vote after all. “It looks like a lot of tea-party groups were less active or never got off the ground because of the IRS actions,” Wisconsin governor Scott Walker told me. “Sure seems like people were discouraged by it.”

Indeed, several conservative groups I talked with said they were directly impacted by having their non-profit status delayed by either IRS inaction or burdensome and intrusive questioning. At least two donors told me they didn’t contribute to True the Vote, a group formed to combat voter fraud, because after three years of waiting the group still didn’t have its status granted at the time of the 2012 election. (While many of the targeted tea-party groups were seeking to become 501(c)(4)s, donations to which are not tax-deductible, True the Vote sought to become a 501(c)(3).) This week, True the Vote sued the IRS in federal court, asking a judge to enjoin the agency from targeting anyone in the future.

Cleta Mitchell, True the Vote’s lawyer, says we’ll never know just how much political activity was curtailed by the IRS targeting. She has one client who wanted to promote reading of the Constitution, but who didn’t even hear back from the IRS for three years – until last Monday, when the IRS informed this client that some questions would be sent.

“I was about to file with the IRS when other tea-party groups started to get harassed,” Pennsylvania activist Jennifer Stefano told Time magazine. “I remember checking with the IRS to see if they wanted the group [Facebook] page or my personal page, and they said ‘All of it.’”

The IRS claims that all of the delays and information demands were rooted in mere mismanagement and misjudgment, a stance that began to look even shakier yesterday when Lois Lerner, the director of the IRS’s exempt-organization division, took the Fifth Amendment before a House committee.

Conservatives have long tangled with Lerner, who was director of enforcement at the Federal Election Commission from 1986 until 2001, when she moved to the IRS.

“Everything we have seen at the IRS was reeled out first at the FEC,” says Jim Bopp, a noted election-law attorney who represented the Christian Coalition in its successful fight to quash the FEC’s attempt to impose a $5 million fine on the group for political activities. The FEC lost the case on summary judgment in a 1999 opinion written by a Jimmy Carter–appointed judge.

“In a dozen out of the 81 depositions in the case, the FEC wanted to know about people’s religious beliefs or the content of their prayers,” Bopp told me. “Lerner took the speech-chilling culture she developed at the FEC right over to the IRS.”

The timing of the greatly increased scrutiny of tea-party groups by Lerner’s IRS office was curious. Glenn Kessler, the fact-checker at the Washington Post who awarded “a bushel of Pinocchios” to Lerner this week, noted that “the targeting of groups began in early 2010, after the Supreme Court’s decision in Citizens United v. FEC was announced on January 21.” Claims that the decision deregulating political speech led to an enormous surge in applications for tax-exempt status are bogus. As Kessler showed, the increase between 2009 and 2010 was only about 7 percent.

Ralph Reed ran the Christian Coalition until 1997 and now directs a similar effort called the Faith and Freedom Coalition. He told me that misbehavior against nonprofits by the IRS didn’t begin with Barack Obama’s presidency. “The corruption and abuse of enforcement power, the harassment of Christian and pro-life organizations began with the IRS regulations trying to block the tax-exempt status of Christian schools in the 1970s,” he says. “The only difference is that this time it was more blatant, and hopefully there’s a better paper trail to see exactly what happened.”

Jim Bopp, the election-law attorney, hopes some good will come out of the IRS scandal. “What’s clear is that bureaucrats and regulators can abuse the system when there aren’t bright lines. This should teach us we have to nail down exactly what the permissible level of political activity for a non-profit is. That will make it harder for arbitrary and capricious bureaucrats who might want to misuse their power.”

It won’t be easy to discover whether the “voter suppression” engaged in by the IRS was malicious and political. But we have to make every effort to find out before the American people start losing confidence in the integrity of our elections.

— John Fund is national-affairs columnist for NRO.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionfraud; irsscandal; votefraud; voterfraud
"I have not done anything wrong," Lerner told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. "I have not broken any laws. I have not violated any IRS rules or regulations, and I have not provided false information to this or any other committee."

Lerner has been targeting conservatives for so long, she probably thinks it's legal. Why did the right let her get away with it?

No One Knew Anything; Sound Familiar?

I don't see Lerner or Holder willingly going under the bus for two of the current scandals, Fast & Furious isn't resolved yet either, and nobody knows who gave the order to stand down at Benghazi and why. IMHO, this crap isn't going away.

1 posted on 05/27/2013 9:23:42 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Bump


2 posted on 05/27/2013 9:24:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: neverdem

IMHO, this crap isn’t going away.
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I agree.


3 posted on 05/27/2013 9:29:27 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (God Bless America)
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To: neverdem

The DNC suppressed voter turnout of million sof White Americans.

It was racially motivated.


4 posted on 05/27/2013 9:35:33 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: neverdem

Liberals say the TeaParty is all white.

They then targeted the Tea Party.

Their voter suppression was racially motivated.


5 posted on 05/27/2013 9:37:56 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: neverdem

6 posted on 05/27/2013 9:38:58 PM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: neverdem

Who says that voter fraud didn’t affect the election?

How many districts had more voters than there were registered voters? And what was the dem. vs. rep. spread in those districts?


7 posted on 05/27/2013 9:39:15 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: neverdem

I am so ashamed that this was allowed to occur in this country. What a DISGRACE! An illegitimate president. CRAP! America was a great country once. I can’t say that anymore.


8 posted on 05/27/2013 9:41:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: NoLibZone

The Tea Party is not all white. My local party includes a few blacks and many hispanics, mostly who are small business owners, and pretty much reflects the racial demographics of my small town.


9 posted on 05/27/2013 9:44:05 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: neverdem
People from both sides of the political spectrum have to insist those who were involved into this campaign of targeting of our citizens to be punished fully by the law. Disgraceful and illegal. People must go to prison over this, not just to be fired. I hope Congress brings people who have been targeted into the hearings so they can speak about their cases. Congress you must do this.
10 posted on 05/27/2013 9:46:50 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: informavoracious

I agree the TP is not all White.

But liberals say it is.

Thus they were racially motivated in tier actions.


11 posted on 05/27/2013 9:46:53 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: neverdem; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; Voter#537; ...

FAIRTAX!

ABOLISH THE INCOME TAX!

ABOLISH THE IRS!

YES! I AM YELLING!

WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR?

http://www.fairtax.org


12 posted on 05/27/2013 9:49:53 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: neverdem

The various Tea Partys need to sue under the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to over turn the election.

The Obama administration did and continues to suppress voter participation based on race.

Liberals say that the TP is all white and then used the Federal government to suppress that segment of the populations voter participation.


13 posted on 05/27/2013 9:53:04 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: Noob1999

Bingo. When the Chicago Thug Voter Machine turns out, they win bigtime. When it doesn’t they lose and have almost every time since 2010.

This is another scandal that would be helped by a ‘Whistleblower Reward/Defense” fund.


14 posted on 05/27/2013 9:53:27 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Taxman
Any tax system I support will remove the government's right to know what any citizen has or earns.

The whole problem is the very idea that the government has an unimpeded right to look into our wealth or earnings.

It's insidious.

15 posted on 05/27/2013 9:56:38 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Taxman

Really hard to imagine the politicians dismantling the system they use to buy votes for themselves....unless we get a whole lot more Tea Party people elected.
Not to mention the CPAs and the tax attorneys who’d be put out of business...and a whole bunch of my co-workers in the tax dept of a Fortune 500 company. However, wouldn’t companies like Apple be more inclined to repatriate their overseas billions?

Not to say I don’t agree with abolishing the IRS - just seems highly unlikely.


16 posted on 05/27/2013 10:05:45 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: dead
Any tax system I support will remove the government's right to know what any citizen has or earns.

You sound like an advocate of the NRST!

So, you want them to know about each and every thing you buy?

17 posted on 05/27/2013 10:06:20 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: neverdem
But we have to make every effort to find out before the American people start losing confidence in the integrity of our elections.

Before we lose confidence in our elections? I already did. It was stolen.

18 posted on 05/27/2013 10:08:26 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: neverdem

Commie bump....


19 posted on 05/27/2013 10:15:50 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: neverdem
"I don't see Lerner or Holder willingly going under the bus for two of the current scandals, Fast & Furious isn't resolved yet either, and nobody knows who gave the order to stand down at Benghazi and why. IMHO, this crap isn't going away. "

Indeed. 0bama's not worried, nor are any of his thugs. They know the coup of 2008 is deeply entrenched now and aren't about to stop.

20 posted on 05/27/2013 10:28:38 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Noob1999
Who says that voter fraud didn’t affect the election?

Whining about voter fraud does no good unless you can prove it was decisive. Had the RNC been serious about fraud, they would have addressed this:

Addressing the Ethical, Legal, and Social Issues Raised by Voting by Persons With Dementia

21 posted on 05/27/2013 10:55:24 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem
"The Real Voter Suppression of 2012 - Voter ID didn’t reduce turnout, but the IRS may have."

Ain't that the truth!

22 posted on 05/27/2013 11:32:54 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see)
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To: neverdem

BFLR


23 posted on 05/27/2013 11:48:43 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: neverdem

definitely hurt the efforts by those groups to get out the vote.

if 500 organizations each helped bring just 1000 more people, that’s 500,000 votes to romney... possibly enough (depending the states)


24 posted on 05/28/2013 12:01:55 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Carry_Okie

A tax paid on all purchases and collected by the seller doesn’t identify or link the buyer to the purchase. There’s no need for the government to know who bought what in order to administer the system.


25 posted on 05/28/2013 12:21:29 AM PDT by Bob
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To: neverdem

Director of the FEC since 1986 ? During Reagan’s presidency. Isn’t she a scion of Lerner Publishing who published a bunch of neighborhood weeklys on Chicago’s northside ? Was she a Carol Mosley Braun recomendation ? Republicans sure did a lousey job of “veting” here.


26 posted on 05/28/2013 3:42:25 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: neverdem

They even targeted James Dobson himself!


27 posted on 05/28/2013 3:58:10 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Christie at the beach
People from both sides of the political spectrum have to insist those who were involved into this campaign of targeting of our citizens to be punished fully by the law.

That's not likely to happen. The average liberal voter is liberal because they've been told their whole life how caring and compassionate the left is. They have no clue of the festering cesspit of corruption that is the left political cabal, and have no desire to lift up that thin veneer of wholesomeness to see what really lies underneath. And any time the leftist rot seeps out, the average liberal is happy that, finally, someone is getting back at those meeeeeeean and eeeeeevil conservatives. So I wouldn't expect any outcry from the left.

28 posted on 05/28/2013 3:58:22 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: neverdem

P.S It doesn’t have to ‘go away’. If they ignore it long enough, they can cry “WITCH HUNT” and the media will sing the chorus behind them.


29 posted on 05/28/2013 3:59:02 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: neverdem
But we have to make every effort to find out before the American people start losing confidence in the integrity of our elections.

That train left the station a long time ago for this citizen.

30 posted on 05/28/2013 4:52:55 AM PDT by Roccus (Government = politicians and bureaucrats.....an extortion racket envied by the mob.)
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To: neverdem
But we have to make every effort to find out before the American people start losing confidence in the integrity of our elections.

That train left the station a long time ago for this citizen.

31 posted on 05/28/2013 4:53:16 AM PDT by Roccus (Government = politicians and bureaucrats.....an extortion racket envied by the mob.)
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To: neverdem

A general question.

If the the US government is operating as a criminal enterprise, who investigates and prosecutes?

An independent prosecutor will only be limited in scope.

The DOJ has their own RICO problems.
EPA has their problems.
DHS has their problems.

These are only Federal operations. One cannot disbelieve similar progressive activity at state and local governments.


32 posted on 05/28/2013 5:08:28 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: neverdem
But we have to make every effort to find out before the American people start losing confidence in the integrity of our elections.

That happened when al frankenstein won after enough recounts showed him ahead and the recounts stopped. The dims proved that they will try anything in the 2000 presidential election.

33 posted on 05/28/2013 5:24:06 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: dead

FairTax does precisely that.


34 posted on 05/28/2013 5:35:01 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Aria

It really is up to We the People.

We have, collectively, elected just enough idiots and statists to local, state and federal positions of power that they can pretty much have their way with us without fear of their jobs. If we were to get off of our collective dead asses and elect real public servants instead of the clowns, buffoons and idiots, we might solve the problem.

I will not shed any tears for tax workers displaced by FairTax. They can go look for honest jobs.


35 posted on 05/28/2013 5:42:12 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: NoLibZone

It is called discrimination and there has been only one congressman that has dared use the word in accurately describing what the IRS did to “conservative” groups. His name is Trey Gowdy.


36 posted on 05/28/2013 5:43:25 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: neverdem
When in the course of human events...

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

DISMANTLE totalitarian agencies. DEPOPULATE totalitarians from the body politic.

TREASON - continuous, AGENCY-ABETTED, REPRESENTATIVE-DIRECTED, ongoing...

37 posted on 05/28/2013 5:48:47 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Bob
A tax paid on all purchases and collected by the seller doesn’t identify or link the buyer to the purchase.

You are thinking about cash transactions. If you don't think they'll be there, you are smoking something, especially if the item being purchased is a weapon.

As of right now, if I go into a lawn care shop and buy a bag of fertilizer, or a jug of RoundUp, that purchase is tracked by the State of California using my driver's license number. That means they already have the software and databases in place and the rest is a matter of scaling.

38 posted on 05/28/2013 5:51:26 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: neverdem

You might want to post this one too...

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/27/washington-launches-four-different-investigations-into-irs-scandal/

Washington launches four different investigations into IRS scandal


39 posted on 05/28/2013 5:54:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: neverdem

I was speaking to a young college student the other day - a young liberal who generally doesn’t hear of scandals against conservatives - and asked her about the IRS targeting ... Not only had she heard of it, but she very deeply felt it was wrong. I think this one has legs.


40 posted on 05/28/2013 5:58:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: neverdem
To know the newest horror leftest are up to - all conservatives have to do is watch what they're accusing us of doing...

We didn't do voter suppression - they did voter suppression. We don't profile, they profile.

41 posted on 05/28/2013 7:08:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: autumnraine

It’s dawning on the MSM that leftest will throw them overboard, investigate them, and take away their Constitutional rights too...


42 posted on 05/28/2013 7:11:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: NoLibZone
The IRS claims that all of the delays and information demands were rooted in mere mismanagement and misjudgment...

One more figgin' lie from the IRS...

43 posted on 05/28/2013 7:15:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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44 posted on 05/28/2013 11:22:35 AM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


45 posted on 05/28/2013 11:35:59 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: dead

Meanwhile every liberal judge and legislator will scream at everyone about the absolute existence of a constitutional “right to privacy”. Except for income, finances, light bulb usage, and everything else not related to abortion.


46 posted on 05/31/2013 12:10:26 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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