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Palmer kindergartener disciplined after bringing quarter-sized toy gun onto school bus (MA)
The Republican ^ | May 28, 2013 | Conor Berry

Posted on 05/28/2013 6:33:01 AM PDT by libertarian27

A mother says she's upset over the punishment her 6-year-old kindergartener is facing after the Old Mill Pond Elementary School student boarded a school bus last week with a Lego plastic gun about the size of a quarter.

"I think they overreacted, totally," Mieke Crane told abc40.

The tiny toy gun is the type that snaps into the hands of a Lego figure, and another student saw it and yelled to the driver. Both Crane's son and the student who alerted the driver had to apologize, according to Crane, who says her son also must serve detention on Tuesday. Palmer school officials couldn't immediately be reached for comment.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; nannystate
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1 posted on 05/28/2013 6:33:01 AM PDT by libertarian27
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To: libertarian27
Government schools are prison-preparatory systems designed to mold children into quivering bowls of jello.
2 posted on 05/28/2013 6:35:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: libertarian27

Absurd


3 posted on 05/28/2013 6:36:12 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: libertarian27
......another student saw it and yelled to the driver...

And thus, another innocent child is brainwashed into thinking all "guns" are evil, allowing some future iteration of the government to "protect us" by taking away our guns.

4 posted on 05/28/2013 6:36:44 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: libertarian27

Was it loaded?


5 posted on 05/28/2013 6:37:18 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: libertarian27
Crane's son and the student who alerted the driver had to apologize

WTF??? Kindergarteners had to apologize? For what? This is insanity. Why did they need to apologize to anyone? Its Orwellian.

6 posted on 05/28/2013 6:37:24 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: libertarian27

But a quarter-sized condom would have been just fine.


7 posted on 05/28/2013 6:38:16 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: libertarian27
It's now criminal to have a Cracker Jacks or gumball machine toy?

-PJ

8 posted on 05/28/2013 6:39:21 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: libertarian27

I pity the kids whose parents condemn them to child abuse at the hands of “educators”.

Parents can’t save the schools, but they can save their own children.


9 posted on 05/28/2013 6:39:36 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: libertarian27

Wait— was it loaded with tiny Lego bullets or a **GASP** tiny Lego magazine?

Good grief.


10 posted on 05/28/2013 6:40:46 AM PDT by Shelayne
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To: libertarian27

I swear there needs to be a cartoon character caped crusade who makes it his business to haunt and embarrass each official associated with these types of reports and discipline.


11 posted on 05/28/2013 6:41:34 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: libertarian27

Don’t send him back there next year and let them know why.


12 posted on 05/28/2013 6:42:08 AM PDT by goldi
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To: cincinnati65
HOLDER:

What we need to do is change the way in which people think about guns, especially young people, and make it something that’s not cool, that it’s not acceptable, it’s not hip to carry a gun anymore, in the way in which we changed our attitudes about cigarettes. …

One thing that I think is clear with young people and with adults as well is that we just have to be repetitive about this. It’s not enough to simply have a catchy ad on a Monday and then do it every Monday. We need to do this every day of the week and just really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.

13 posted on 05/28/2013 6:43:06 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: libertarian27
Broken Record Alert:

It's time to take your kids out of public indoctrination centers.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread.

14 posted on 05/28/2013 6:43:23 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: libertarian27

If he had brought the tiny Lego cop that came with the tiny Lego gun would that have been ok? Then the 2" weapon would have been safely in the possession of a trained 2" officer.

15 posted on 05/28/2013 6:46:19 AM PDT by Casie (democrats destroy)
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To: libertarian27

This nation has gone mad.


16 posted on 05/28/2013 6:46:32 AM PDT by basil (basil --Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: ecomcon

Exactly. When these kids go through all 12 grades, turn 18, and vote, they will not vote for pro-2A candidates.

This is massive brainwashing.


17 posted on 05/28/2013 6:46:54 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: libertarian27
and another student saw it and yelled to the driver

It seems that the anti-freedom brainwashing process is nearing "end game".

18 posted on 05/28/2013 6:47:57 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: libertarian27
← Quote of the Day: We Don’t Need No Steenkin’ Warrant Edition

“When I read this article I thought my head was going to explode just from trying to understand a mindset that would support this ‘logic’”

Posted on May 28, 2013 by Robert Farago

Charles Eisendrath (courtesy mjfellows.org)

TTAG reader Dale clocked theatlantic.com‘s Guns for Hunting People Are Different: Legislation Should Reflect That and asked ”So now we’re hunting people?” His email drew our attention to this excerpt: “In most states, it is illegal to hunt animals or birds with more than six rounds in a rifle or three in a shotgun. Why? Because if you can’t kill within those limits you need remedial marksmanship (of the sort NRA Executive Vice President Wayne R. La Pierre might require to bring reportedly poor marksmanship up to snuff).” Dale begs to differ. “Um, no, the idea is to give some of the game a chance to get away so that it can replenish. And it just gets worse from there.” Allow me . . .

Assault rifles are rifles of mass destruction. We shouldn’t be trying to make it safe to have them on the street. It’s too late for that. We need to restrict homicide weapons to those licensed to hunt humans, in law enforcement and the military. Read at:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/05/robert-farago/when-i-read-this-article-i-thought-my-head-was-going-to-explode-just-from-trying-to-understand-a-mindset-that-would-support-this-logic/#more-230639

19 posted on 05/28/2013 6:49:00 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: libertarian27

We may fight against gun control, but in reality, we are a decade or two from confiscation (if that long).

We have allowed them to raise a generation that will be reflexively anti-gun. With a passion they will give away the America right to bear arm.


20 posted on 05/28/2013 6:49:56 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
I understand that schools can have rules regarding weapons, but I have never understood or seen a rule that outlaws “images of weapons”.

The toy was clearly not a gun or even a replica - if we were to allow that replica guns have been used in crime, and thus to provide a school the fig leaf to ban them.

Even with “zero tolerance” this is beyond the pale.

Once the school made the kids apologize, it shows that officials clearly understood the nature of the toy. Detention is completely unwarranted.

What next - criminals must apologize, serve time out and then it stays off their permanent record?

21 posted on 05/28/2013 6:51:20 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: showme_the_Glory

The ammo was in a high capacity clip in his pocket, cleverly disguised as a Pez dispenser with extremely powerful bullets designed specificly to kill our babies.


22 posted on 05/28/2013 6:51:48 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: libertarian27

I guess playing the board game “Clue”, with its two inch revolver would be out of the question.


23 posted on 05/28/2013 6:55:34 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: libertarian27

I tell you this crap will stop when someone organizes an entire grade or more to bring in squirt guns, pictures of guns, pencils held as guns, finger guns, you name it and the school has to discipline all of them. What are they gonna do then, shut an entire school down? Call the police on an entire class? I doubt it. Maybe then the community and police will force this crap to stop.


24 posted on 05/28/2013 6:57:04 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: libertarian27; NFHale; Impy
RE :”Palmer school officials couldn't immediately be reached for comment. “

figures,

Lets call and see if they have an explanation for this:

Welcome To Old Mill Pond School

4107 Main Street
Palmer, Massachusetts 01069-1869
413-283-4300 phone
413-283-2619 fax

Old Mill Pond School, Palmer, Massachusetts

25 posted on 05/28/2013 6:57:28 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Dad was my hero

The left is trying to demonize anything having to do with guns that aren’t under the control of the State.


26 posted on 05/28/2013 6:58:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: libertarian27

Did they find the concealed pop tart in his stomach?


27 posted on 05/28/2013 7:01:01 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: cincinnati65

It’s also possible that the kid who told the bus driver is just a bully and wanted to get the first kid in trouble.


28 posted on 05/28/2013 7:01:27 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: libertarian27
Yet one more example of Zero Tolerance leading to Infinite Stupidity.
Libs use the term "Common Sense" a lot but seem unable to apply it to themselves.

29 posted on 05/28/2013 7:07:56 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My son made the mistake of bringing a BB pistol to school. He had to attend an alternate school for the rest of the year. They told us that if it had been loaded criminal charges would have been in order!


30 posted on 05/28/2013 7:10:40 AM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Zero tolerance rules are nothing but a way to prepare the people for a totalitarian regime. Absolute obedience with no delay is the only thing acceptable.


31 posted on 05/28/2013 7:10:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: libertarian27

Fire all the teachers, bus drivers and Administration involved in this. Retarded people should not be teaching school classes. Perhaps they can work for the EPA, they are of like minds in making mountains out of mole hills.


32 posted on 05/28/2013 7:17:11 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Antoninus II

Private school or home school. we took our youngest two out 3 years ago and haven’t looked back.


33 posted on 05/28/2013 7:17:34 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: FamiliarFace
"It’s also possible that the kid who told the bus driver is just a bully and wanted to get the first kid in trouble."

In which case, I'm sure, another kid would've yelled at the bus driver about the "bully"!

No guns! No bullies! Just be an unarmed little sheep and let daddy government protect you.

34 posted on 05/28/2013 7:19:48 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: PetroniusMaximus

The anti gun generation will be killed off in mass, thereby reseting the equation. What is left of the next generation will be staunchly pro gun and anti marxist.


35 posted on 05/28/2013 7:20:24 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: showme_the_Glory

No, but Palmer school officials are.

Just say no to detention.


36 posted on 05/28/2013 7:24:11 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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Let’s have a Lego gun turn-in event!

Everyone, mail in your child’s Lego guns to:

Old Mill Pond School
4107 Main Street
Palmer, Massachusetts 01069-1869

Be sure to enclose a letter expressing your gratitude to them for keeping Lego guns off the street!


37 posted on 05/28/2013 7:25:29 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: libertarian27; NFHale; Impy
Here's the dangerous weapon

Toy Gun Causes Disturbance On Palmer Elementary School Bus May 24th, 2013 (Fox 6 WGGB)

38 posted on 05/28/2013 7:26:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Dad was my hero

I’m with you! I thought of dropping all kinds of toy guns on school property, but your idea is better. This craziness needs to stop!


39 posted on 05/28/2013 7:31:34 AM PDT by Exit148
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To: cincinnati65

You’re probably right.

I’m glad my own children are grown, but heaven help us when they have their own. I may have to homeschool my grandchildren, and will do it happily if their parents agree to let me. (Private schools have plenty of problems, too.)


40 posted on 05/28/2013 7:35:40 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: libertarian27

It’s all part of the liberals’ program of making kids either fear the possession or or hate guns. Nothing new here.


42 posted on 05/28/2013 7:40:59 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

The Curse of Obamanation continues to Move Forward.


43 posted on 05/28/2013 7:45:17 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: sickoflibs; libertarian27; Impy

“...Mieke Crane is the mother of the six-year-old kindergarten student who brought the gun on the bus.

“I think they over-reacted totally. I totally do,” said Crane.”

It’s conditioning, Pavlov-style.

FREAK on the kid at the mere mention or sight of a toy gun, and he/she automatically relates the object with fear of punishment.

They know exactly what they’re doing to our kids.

I taught my kids at very young ages to shoot. They were immune to all this bullsh*t by the time they got into school.


44 posted on 05/28/2013 7:51:16 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: libertarian27

The last days of kindergarten and he gets detention? Ha, as if kindergarten is required. Short of homeschooling, the kid’s parents should tell the school where they could put the big bad scary weapon and pull the kid out of school so he can have a longer summer vacation.


45 posted on 05/28/2013 8:14:17 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: LearsFool
Parents can’t save the schools

They most certainly can but refuse to step up. They can be the squeaky wheel at the PTO. They can go to the school board meetings to voice their opinions. They can run for school board. They can volunteer at school. They can get hired at the school. They can get to know the teachers and principal. They can send letters to the editor of the local newspaper. They can get other parents together to protest ridiculous rules. The school wouldn't exist without the parents' tax dollars so the parents have a huge say in how the school operates.

46 posted on 05/28/2013 8:20:22 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: libertarian27

Where the hell is common sense??? Why didn’t the bus driver tell the kid to shut up, it’s a toy?? And more importantly, why did he have to report it to “the authorities”? How stupid are we to continue down this commie path? THAT should be who’s in detention, not the kid that brought the toy.


47 posted on 05/28/2013 9:05:19 AM PDT by ASouthernGrl (BHO sucks - literally or metaphorically, you decide.)
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To: cotton1706
But a quarter-sized condom would have been just fine.

Over-sized for liberals.

48 posted on 05/28/2013 9:16:26 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: libertarian27
If this is a 'gun' for a Lego minifig, it's a hell of a lot smaller than a quarter.Hell, it's smaller than a silver 3 cent piece, and that's the smallest coin America has ever minted that I'm aware of.
49 posted on 05/28/2013 10:35:03 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: libertarian27

Communist educators should be shoved against a bullet-pocked wall to stare at some real guns.


50 posted on 05/28/2013 11:48:19 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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