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This is What Budget Cuts Have Done to Detroit ... And It's Freaking Awesome
PolicyMic ^ | May 27, 2013 | Robert Taylor

Posted on 05/28/2013 9:51:48 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick

The language of budget cuts, austerity, and sequestration seem to dominate the media's landscape these days, instilling fear into Americans of vital government services being cut and chaos ensuing if governments aren't allowed to spend and borrow infinitely. Conservatives decry supposed cuts to the military-industrial-complex, and liberals bemoan that without government welfare transfer programs, there would be social Darwinism. ... Leaving aside the details on whether the U.S. budget is actually shrinking, one needs to look no further than the city of Detroit to find the spontaneous order, civic cooperation, and peaceful market forces that take over when government simply isn't around. ..... The Detroit Bus Company (DBC) is a private bus service that began last year and truly shows a stark contrast in how the market and government operates. Founded by 25-year-old Andy Didorosi, the company avoids the traditionally stuffy, cagey government buses and uses beautiful vehicles with graffiti-laden exterior designs that match the heart of the Motor City. There are no standard bus routes; a live-tracking app, a call or a text is all you need to get picked up in one of their buses run on soy-based biofuel. All the buses feature wi-fi, music, and you can even drink your own alcohol on board! The payment system is, of course, far cheaper and fairer.

(Excerpt) Read more at policymic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: americans4prosperity; biofuels; budget; capitalism; detroit; economy; kochbrothers; michigan; opec
This is actually encouraging. Since I think the nation is headed the way of Detroit, it is good to see a light at the end of that tunnel. Americans DO have the will to survive and thrive!
1 posted on 05/28/2013 9:51:48 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
I've been saying it all along. Free Market conservatives would be wise to take advantage of the freedom hidden in the Detroit disaster. Where my sister lives in Livonia, they have private security they frees up cops for other areas of the city.

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2 posted on 05/28/2013 9:56:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Bttt


3 posted on 05/28/2013 10:06:09 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

someday Detroit will be rebuilt but it will be primarily by private funds and investment.
not by government programs, other than essential infrastructural improvements as may be necessary.

government can also review its various laws and regulations to see which ones further depress the economy

there are quite a number of them, and SOME at least could be modified or dropped...to enable the American economy to recover somewhat...


4 posted on 05/28/2013 10:06:10 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Brown's philosophy is that he would rather hire people that who see violence as a last resort, and the handful of Detroit police officers that who actually worked with Brown in the earlier years and have an interest in genuine protection now work for TMC.

There...fixed. If you want to write for a living, at least learn the rules of grammar.

5 posted on 05/28/2013 10:06:48 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

No, the budget cuts are the result of 60 years of liberal mismanagement and corruption that ran unchecked.

Draconian measures to get the city under control are not why Detroit is the way it is now. the city is the way it is because of how it’s been (not) run, and corruptly run, the last 60 years.

I can see why they say that though. These people are the very same folks that blame doctors for their morbidly sick eating everything diabetic mom abusing her health for decades, that finally dies, it’s the docs fault and sues the doctor. They are the very same people that blame the cops for shooting their son who was on drugs pointing a gun at them, saying he was a good boy. And then suing the city.


6 posted on 05/28/2013 10:08:26 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
...their buses run on soy-based biofuel.

I smell a non-free market subsidy in there somewhere.

7 posted on 05/28/2013 10:12:01 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything. Bolshies' gonna bolsh.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
A successful business in Detroit? Other than drug dealing? Can't have that.
Government will strangle it with regulations soon enough.

8 posted on 05/28/2013 10:13:12 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

While I am glad folks are making some money, me thinks I’ll pass on a partridge family bus going through the inner city of detroit where folks are allowed to drink their own booze while riding.


9 posted on 05/28/2013 10:13:37 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Anyone taking bets on how long they’re allowed to operate before the government either shuts them down or demands so much protection money (oops “fees and taxes”) that they put them out of business?


10 posted on 05/28/2013 10:14:15 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
"The payment system is, of course, far cheaper and fairer."

Not to worry, once the unions muscle in they'll "fix" that cheaper and fairer nonsense! [/s]

11 posted on 05/28/2013 10:15:23 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

I would think insurance laws will be drafted to put this transportation business under for good.


12 posted on 05/28/2013 10:17:15 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: faithhopecharity
someday Detroit will be rebuilt

major cities grew up for a reason. Buffalo, NY, my hometown, existed because it was the furthest you could go on the great lakes before reaching Niagara Falls. All grain was shipped through Buffalo. Bethelem Steel made iron and steel. GM used those resources to build cars. After railroads eliminated the need for a Buffalo hub, all those industries found a better place to exist.

Why Detroit? I don't see a competitive advantage.

13 posted on 05/28/2013 10:17:50 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: faithhopecharity

Detroit will never be rebuilt.

American Auto is not coming back to Detroit, while they may keep their HQ’s there for historical reasons, and other facitlities in the area, all significant investment will go south and west where taxes and right to work rule.

MI going right to work might help some, but its still a tax sink hole and the US Auto Industry will NEVER be what it was in the 50s again. It will never again know a time when there was no effective world competition and they could own the market.

Europe rebuilt, and the Asian Rim is in the game.

Someday perhaps Detroit will shrink to “RIGHT SIZE” and get its house in order, but given all the wealth long ago fled the city due to mismanagment and black racism, that’s not going to even begin to happen for another 2-3 decades once those things get put into check, and neither of those is even remotely in check at present.

Its depressing to go anywhere near detroit. You can go to cities that were bombed into rubble and in less than 10 years look better than Detroit does.


14 posted on 05/28/2013 10:18:53 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: econjack

Thanks. These lunk heads who fancy themselves writers drive me nuts. They truly are inanimate “thats.”


15 posted on 05/28/2013 10:29:14 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: HamiltonJay

Quote: “American Auto is not coming back to Detroit, while they may keep their HQ’s there for historical reasons, and other facilities in the area, all significant investment will go south and west where taxes and right to work rule.”

You are probably right but didn’t Michigan just pass right to work?


16 posted on 05/28/2013 10:29:16 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: HamiltonJay

Even setting aside the lower taxes and right to work in the sunbelt, there is such a thing as a Materials Index that determines the most efficient place to produce a product based on distance from both your major raw materials and your customers.

In the 1920’s Detroit sat astride that very geographic spot. But since our population keeps shifting to the south and west, Motown finds itself far away from the ideal spot (which I think is in Missouri or Kansas someplace now)


17 posted on 05/28/2013 10:35:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: FatherofFive

A lot of it has to do with Canada’s industrial hub. After all, they aren’t spending a billion dollars for a new bridge to Detroit just because they want to spend money.


18 posted on 05/28/2013 11:19:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

One of the reasons the future looks brighter for Detroit.

Michigan most improved

http://247wallst.com/2013/01/03/the-states-which-recovered-most-and-least-from-the-recession/2/


19 posted on 05/28/2013 11:34:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

If it works, gov’t will tax it, unionize it and bury it in regulations.


20 posted on 05/28/2013 11:36:35 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: FlipWilson

I mentioned their MI having Right to work in the very same post.... might want to finish reading the post.


21 posted on 05/28/2013 11:40:27 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Arkansas Toothpick.
The Detroit Bus Company (DBC) is a private bus service that began last year and truly shows a stark contrast in how the market and government operates. Founded by 25-year-old Andy Didorosi, the company avoids the traditionally stuffy, cagey government buses and uses beautiful vehicles with graffiti-laden exterior designs that match the heart of the Motor City. There are no standard bus routes; a live-tracking app, a call or a text is all you need to get picked up in one of their buses run on soy-based biofuel. All the buses feature wi-fi, music, and you can even drink your own alcohol on board! The payment system is, of course, far cheaper and fairer.
Soy-based biofuel?


22 posted on 05/28/2013 1:03:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Bio diesel works. Its not for me but it sounds like the guy is running a pretty successful business in a previously unfilled niche. Kinda like Two men and a truck which grew from two brothers and a truck in Lansing to a national company with some 7000 employees.

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23 posted on 05/28/2013 1:18:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: econjack

I was wondering if anyone else would notice the error of substituting that for who. Journalists for the most famous of news companies do it. So do many highly educated celebrities.


24 posted on 05/28/2013 1:34:48 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
I doubt if most people care enough to notice. Another word that is abused often is decimate. Most people assume it means total destruction when it really means to destroy every tenth item. It has Roman origins and, if a squad of soldiers were observed to behave in a cowardly manner, every tenth man was killed, so the squad was said to be decimated. However, it's been screwed up for so long, its meaning is slowly changing...and don't even get me started on confusing then and than. How sad...
25 posted on 05/28/2013 2:15:58 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: cripplecreek

Awesome. In Illinois, by law, not private bus company can compete with the CTA or RTA. Even when they drop routes it is illegal to pick those routes up privately.

We’re decades behind Michigan and there’s little hope we’ll catch up, ever. We’re America’s North Korea.


26 posted on 05/28/2013 7:48:02 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I know the Detroit bus company isn’t getting taxpayer dollars. They wouldn’t be advertizing that its OK to drink on their buses.

Private neighborhood security is another business that is growing in Detroit.


27 posted on 05/28/2013 7:53:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: econjack

The old complaint about the word “decimate” comes up often here. But the English language is a living one, it’s not Latin. The meaning of words and conventions change over time. “Font” and “typeface” were not the same thing originally, but they’re used interchangibly today. A “logo” and a “trademark” were different but now pretty much mean the same. “Lynchpin,” “ Vellum,” “Triumph” all had specific meanings that, like “decimate,” have morphed over time. Likewise, in 1933 “tomorrow” was spelled “to-morrow.”


28 posted on 06/20/2013 5:24:57 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Not sure I agree. Logo and trademark are definitely different things and I think should be viewed as such. Personally, rather than see words “morphed”, I’d rather keep the old words preserved as they were originally, and have new words developed as needed.


29 posted on 06/20/2013 8:38:16 PM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: econjack
Do you ever use the word “triumph” for anything other than a Roman parade, authorized by the Roman Senate, celebrating a victory by the Roman Legions? If so, you're doing the same thing using “decimate” in place of “devastate,” which as it turns out is also Latin. It grew from “devastatus,” past participle of “devastare,” from de- + vastare “to lay waste.” So anyone who says they were “devastated” when the Spurs lost Game 6 is using the word incorrectly, I suppose.

It's a good thing English is so flexible. Let's not be like the French!

30 posted on 06/21/2013 7:08:57 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: cripplecreek

I heard somewhere that private citizens were paying for police cars, and, get this -

libs were complaining that they shouldn’t be allowed to do that because police cars were a government function.


31 posted on 06/21/2013 7:16:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cripplecreek

“After all, they aren’t spending a billion dollars for a new bridge to Detroit just because they want to spend money.”

Sure they are. If they just wanted to build a bridge, it would cost far, far less than a cool $billion.

They are spending a $Billion because the unions and government bureaucrats are involved. So yes, they are building a bridge just because they want to spend money, and they want to be able to levy taxes to support union toll collectors and government bureaucracy.

Yeah sure, they’ll throw a bridge in too, but that is not the primary reason they are building it.


32 posted on 06/21/2013 7:18:45 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: SoCal Pubbie

And today the spelling of tomorrow and all other words depends upon the mood of my keyboard.


33 posted on 06/21/2013 7:29:47 AM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: MrB
Unfortunately when it comes to Detroit, even a few FReepers complain about that sort of thing. Personally I think "screw em" conservatism is a dead end so I support fixing Detroit because they're Americans.

JP Morgan just opened a new regional HQ in Detroit and has pledged millions for various community improvements. In fact there is a lot of business seeding going on in Detroit right now at the hands of some big players like Quicken loans because of an increasingly favorable business environment vs places like NYC. The new bridge being built by Canada will be a major boost as well.

I'm no fan of cities but I am a fan of America and I'm a fan of spreading conservatism and the free market. The biggest influence was a re reading of Ronald Reagan's 1980 nomination acceptance speech.

My fellow citizens, I utterly reject that view. The American people, the most generous on earth, who created the highest standard of living, are not going to accept the notion that we can only make a better world for others by moving backwards ourselves. Those who believe we can have no business leading the nation.

I will not stand by and watch this great country destroy itself under mediocre leadership that drifts from one crisis to the next, eroding our national will and purpose. We have come together here because the American people deserve better from those to whom they entrust our nation's highest offices, and we stand united in our resolve to do something about it.


Address Accepting the Presidential Nomination at the Republican National Convention in Detroit July 17, 1980

I also reject the belief that blacks can never be converted to conservatism. Things are moving in the right direction. Just this weekend the Fredrick Douglass foundation is holding an event in Detroit sponsored by Americans for Prosperity and Michigan Right to work. speakers will be The Rev. C.L. Bryant–Founder, One Nation Back to God; Film Maker, Runaway Slave, Fellow with FreedomWorks - Ismael Hernandez –Founder, Freedom and Virtue Institute -Stacy Swimp– Nationally recognized speaker, commentator, President of Frederick Douglass Society - State Rep. Mike Shirkey - State Senator Pat Colbeck - Terry Bowman-President, Union Conservatives - Gary Glenn-President, American Family Association-Michigan - State Senator Patrick Colbeck

Frederick Douglass Society Hosts Juneteenth Celebrations: Race To Economic Emancipation
34 posted on 06/21/2013 7:44:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
The Merriam-Webster dictionary for the word decimate is:

to select by lot and kill every tenth man of

which tells me that is the definition of decimate. It is the third acceptable use of the word that widens its definition.

The same dictionary defines triumph as you have indicated, so all of us should avoid using the word incorrectly. I'm going to try and restrict my usage to the list of synonyms they suggest. Thanks for pointing that out to me!

35 posted on 06/21/2013 7:44:59 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I’ll have to disagree with you on this. What we have done is not so much change the meanings of words but to ignore the nuanced differences of different words’ meanings. Odor, smell, fragrance and stench are all pretty close in meaning in some respects, but obviously (to most people, at least for now) are not interchangeable.


36 posted on 06/21/2013 8:08:38 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441

In that case you’d better not use Microsoft Office, nor any word processing program for that matter, that allows you to change fonts, since a font is “type produced by casting molten metal at a type foundry.”


37 posted on 06/21/2013 8:20:24 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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