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U.S. oil boom divides OPEC
Marketwatch ^ | May 28, 2013, 7:06 a.m. EDT | By Benoit Faucon, Sarah Kent and Hassan Hafidh

Posted on 05/28/2013 11:00:19 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

LONDON (MarketWatch) — Rising American output of shale oil is rewriting global trade patterns and deepening fault lines within the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, limiting its ability to mount a collective response. A crucial OPEC meeting in Vienna on Friday will mark the first stage of a debate on shale’s oil’s impact.

The meeting is unlikely to lead to a change in production levels, several OPEC delegates said — but inaction would set the stage for a future showdown. “We are heading toward some problems,” a delegate from a Persian Gulf OPEC member said.

Oil output from the U.S. and Canada is set to rise about 21% from this year to 2018, according to data from the International Energy Agency, largely a result of growing production from fracking and other technologies that access once-inaccessible reserves.

African OPEC members such as Algeria and Nigeria — which produce oil of similar grade to shale oil — are suffering the worst effects from the North American oil boom; Nigeria oil minister Diezani Alison-Madueke deemed U.S. shale oil a “grave concern.”

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Mexico; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: algeria; canada; energy; israel; mexico; nigeria; oil; opec; russia
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1 posted on 05/28/2013 11:00:19 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why is oil 95 bucks a bbl then?


2 posted on 05/28/2013 11:02:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Quick, give some more money to the Sierra Club or call in chits from the ObaMao adminisstration to surpress domestic production in the U.S.A. and Canada.


3 posted on 05/28/2013 11:03:31 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

4 posted on 05/28/2013 11:06:49 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: central_va

While Saudi Arabia can tolerate lower prices, “there will be some members, like Venezuela, Iran who will struggle at $90,” said Amrita Sen, chief oil analyst at London-based Energy Aspects Ltd. The front month Brent contract for July settled at $102.62 a barrel Monday. Venezuela’s oil minister said on Monday that he would push for a cut in OPEC production if oil falls below $100 a barrel.

Iran needs high prices to offset the loss of $26 billion of oil revenue last year from tough Western sanctions on its exports, according to estimates from the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

Algeria, which has been rattled by riots over food and housing, needs an oil price of $121 a barrel to cover planned domestic spending—including for roads, jobs and housing—according to the International Monetary Fund.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323855804578508871186460986.html


5 posted on 05/28/2013 11:08:33 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

From a look at few years ago, most of the oil producers in the Middle East needed from about $85 to $95 dollars per barrel to break even.


6 posted on 05/28/2013 11:10:04 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: thackney

Should there not be a pretty big increase in production from Iraq coming on the market?

That is if they stop blowing themselves up because of some Sunni/Shite grudge from 800 years ago.


7 posted on 05/28/2013 11:16:49 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; thackney; BOBTHENAILER
Hey! Please keeps sendin me pings to these threads, too! I like 'em!! Besides, I needs da energy!!!

You and thackney keep me well informed and I just love it when you guys just wipe the floor with all those "alternative energy" bufoons with your factual posts, pings and realistic comments!!!

Then BOBTHENAILER comes around and gives 'em GAS!!! Hoo boy!!! What a hoot!!!

8 posted on 05/28/2013 11:17:59 AM PDT by SierraWasp ("Bitter Ender," "Bitter Clinger," Yes on both. COUNT ME IN!!! I love God and guns, but not gays!!!)
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To: Vigilanteman

Better shut it down, quick, Baraq!


9 posted on 05/28/2013 11:19:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Working on the last 10%!!
Woo hoo!!
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We can do this!!
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10 posted on 05/28/2013 11:20:32 AM PDT by RedMDer (You are Free Republic. There are no outside influences. Just us, all of us. Please donate today!)
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To: woodbutcher1963
Yes, they have restored Iraq's production.

But world consumption of oil is climbing as well.


11 posted on 05/28/2013 11:21:19 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: central_va

It may still be high due to refining.

I wonder all our new domestic production is easy to refine. The sweet crude from the Islamic states is usually the easiest to refine....while the Venezulan oil is tough to refine (which probably curtailed a lot of Chavez nuttiness....they had to refine their oil outside country)

Also...shale and tar sands oil costs more to extract

As long as the Islamics, Free Trader Globalists, and the enviros don’t gang up to stop domestic production (those three will try...guarantee)...petrol should drop if the free market is allowed to run course


12 posted on 05/28/2013 11:22:12 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What about the super top secret Halliburton pipeline in Afghanistan and the oil we are stealing from Iraq? How does that figure into this?


13 posted on 05/28/2013 11:30:16 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: central_va

Because the old mighty buck isn’t worth a buck anymore.


14 posted on 05/28/2013 11:33:49 AM PDT by Captain PJ (Are we there yet?)
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To: central_va

Why is oil 95 bucks a bbl then?

they think it’s a fair price ?


15 posted on 05/28/2013 11:35:06 AM PDT by molson209
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To: SeminoleCounty
A lot of that middle east crude is not sweet.


16 posted on 05/28/2013 11:38:22 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Forgive my ignorance to Petroleum Engineering.

What oil(forgetting transportation cost to refinery and the danger to life and limb of getting it from its source)is worth the most?

light sweet crude

Is Quaker State, ie Penn St crude oil still the best?

Where does Canadian shale oil fit on this graph?

Please define US- mars, US-LLS, US-WTI. Keep in mind I am a lumber trader and just barely passed inorganic chemistry.


17 posted on 05/28/2013 11:57:52 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Don’t tell them this. But there is a brilliant strategic move OPEC could make that would SLOW the tidal wave of petroleum production they see coming. This is a secret....

If they were to significantly ramp up production and drive the price of a barrel of oil down to about $40/barrel, the shale development and several other processes would be too expensive to bring oil to market (at least for new ventures). They would have to wait out the market before driving it back up.

Here’s the crutch for them. They would have to accept a low ROI and potentially even some profit loss for a while to stave off the onslaught. They would have to compete (uh oh). But they do have the power right now to affect supply and demand (at least for a little while longer) to the extent that they can manipulate the futures markets.

Don’t worry, they would never dream of doing this.


18 posted on 05/28/2013 12:00:42 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: familyop
From a look at few years ago, most of the oil producers in the Middle East needed from about $85 to $95 dollars per barrel to break even.

I am skeptical of those numbers. I'm not sure if those numbers are based on current Vs. historic value of the dollar or what. But that seems extremely high. I would think that number would be closer to $45 or $50/ barrel. But I'm no expert. Do you have any source recommendation for that?

19 posted on 05/28/2013 12:03:03 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: SierraWasp

You make me laugh....hope things are going well.


20 posted on 05/28/2013 12:22:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Just who is McCain visiting with?)
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