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BREAKING: California Senate approves 8 gun control bills, including ammo registry (VIDEO)
Guns.Com ^ | May 29, 2013 | S.H. Blannelberry

Posted on 05/29/2013 7:59:07 PM PDT by EXCH54FE

Although it can’t be positively confirmed, though maybe it’s just self-evident, a majority of state senators in the Golden State are itching to push through their pro-gun control agenda, approving at least seven bills on Wednesday that further restrict the rights of law-abiding gun owners, including one bill that would set up an ammo registry.

That’s correct, under Senate Bill 53, responsible gun owners would be required to submit personal information to the state, undergo a background check and pay a $50 fee before being allowed to buy ammunition. Their information would be stored in a state database controlled by the Justice Department and the individual would have to present photo ID at a gun store upon making an ammo purchase.

Additionally, gun dealers and ammo vendors would be required to obtain special permits to sell ammunition. Those gun owners or gun dealers/ammo vendors who fail to follow the law would face misdemeanor charges.

Excerpt from SB 53:

(1) Existing law requires the Attorney General to maintain records, including among other things, fingerprints, licenses to carry concealed firearms, and information from firearms dealers pertaining to firearms, for purposes of assisting in the investigation of crimes, and specified civil actions.

This bill would require the Attorney General to also maintain copies of ammunition purchase permits, information about ammunition transactions, as specified, and ammunition vendor licenses, as specified, for those purposes.

Sen. Kevin De Leon (D-Los Angeles), the bill’s sponsor, spoke to the LA Times about the objective of SB 53, which according to him is “to ensure that criminals and other dangerous individuals cannot purchase ammunition in the state of California.”

“To purchase a product that has the potential to maim or kill another human being you can (now) walk into a gun store, no questions asked,”

(Excerpt) Read more at guns.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; gunlaws; politics; secondamendment
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SB 396, a ban on standard capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

SB 47, a bill that places onerous restrictions on “bullet buttons.”

SB 567, a bill that would reclassify certain shotguns as :assault weapons.”

SB 683, a bill that would require all gun buyers to take a firearm-safety certificate class.

SB 755, which would expand crimes that would result in a 10-year ban on owning or buying firearms. Additions include drug- and alcohol-related offenses, hazing, violations of protective orders and court-ordered mental health treatment.

1 posted on 05/29/2013 7:59:07 PM PDT by EXCH54FE
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These gun-grabbing assholes will never be satisfied.


2 posted on 05/29/2013 8:02:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Murder is against the law...but that hasn’t stopped it.


3 posted on 05/29/2013 8:03:51 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: EXCH54FE

W T F


4 posted on 05/29/2013 8:04:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: EXCH54FE

If you’re the victim of a violent crime in many places in California, you better not depend on the police showing up to protect you.

California is too broke to enforce any laws. I am not sure how they kept the lights on for their meeting.

It won’t be long before they’re asking us to bail them out. I say to them, .... up yours.


5 posted on 05/29/2013 8:05:46 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: EXCH54FE
hazing

There just went the military's ability to buy ammo.

6 posted on 05/29/2013 8:06:28 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: EXCH54FE

I’m sure that will fix california’s problems.


7 posted on 05/29/2013 8:07:04 PM PDT by RC one
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To: EXCH54FE
“To purchase a product that has the potential to maim or kill another human being you can (now) walk into a gun store, no questions asked,” -- Sen. Kevin De Leon (D-Los Angeles), the bill’s sponsor

Next up: car dealerships, baseball equipment stores, department stores with cutlery departments, hardware stores that sell rope, plant nurseries that sell garden rocks, construction sites with left over 2x4 lumber, etc.

8 posted on 05/29/2013 8:08:39 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: EXCH54FE

this is good news!

this is just the kind of thing that could California back Republican!


9 posted on 05/29/2013 8:08:51 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: EXCH54FE

The Nazis are on a roll!


10 posted on 05/29/2013 8:08:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: EXCH54FE

“To purchase a product that has the potential to maim or kill another human being you can (now) walk into a gun store, no questions asked,”

So there will follow, I assume, a registry for baseball bats and buckets?


11 posted on 05/29/2013 8:11:14 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: EXCH54FE
“To purchase a product that has the potential to maim or kill another human being you can (now) walk into a gun store, no questions asked,”

He means a hammer, right? Or is it a car?

12 posted on 05/29/2013 8:13:31 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Hey Sen. Kevin De Leon (D-Los Angeles) there isn’t a criminal, a gang-banger, or a thug anywhere in California who gives a rat’s ass about your gun-grabbing bill. All you’re doing is punishing the law-abiding citizens. The shootings and crimes with a gun will continue despite your socialism. What as ass! (Sorry about being blunt but these liberal control freaks never get it).


13 posted on 05/29/2013 8:13:48 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: EXCH54FE

Insanity!


14 posted on 05/29/2013 8:15:01 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: EXCH54FE

It will get worse in CA and short of SCOTUS intervention, we will in time, lose all 2A rights. We now have a super-majority of dem legislators. The 2A can’t survive this.


15 posted on 05/29/2013 8:16:29 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

don’t forget gasoline and antifreeze.


16 posted on 05/29/2013 8:19:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Yet California has NO problem giving illegal aliens drivers licenses and those same illegals go on to kill innocent people(Check out what happened in Newport Beach over the weekend) this state is screwed up..this is what happens when liberals take over


17 posted on 05/29/2013 8:19:10 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: EXCH54FE

Going after ammo cuz of 3d printing of GUNS —gotta feed that control monkey no matter what.


18 posted on 05/29/2013 8:19:37 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: EXCH54FE

I’m more convinced than ever that we’ll need to brush off the 1867 Reconstruction Act, send in a military governor and abolish California’s sovereign right to govern itself.


19 posted on 05/29/2013 8:20:24 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: boycott

“If you’re the victim of a violent crime in many places in California, you better not depend on the police showing up to protect you.”

Of course not. These ass clowns are too busy at the donut shop.

Remember the Hollywood shooting at Hollywood/Vine? The Hollywood precint was 4 blocks away and these idiots responded half an hour later.


20 posted on 05/29/2013 8:20:46 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: boycott

I thought I read a couple of days ago that California is rolling in the money now.


21 posted on 05/29/2013 8:20:51 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: umgud

Only those who comply will lose their 2A rights. The rest will retain them, but, like Winston Smith in “1984”, will become criminals.


22 posted on 05/29/2013 8:21:20 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: Irenic

I thought I read a couple of days ago that California is rolling in the money now.

I don’t know about that but several of their cities are broke.


23 posted on 05/29/2013 8:21:49 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: EXCH54FE

The next product for muslim smugglers, ammo.


24 posted on 05/29/2013 8:22:27 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: boycott

http://www.newsy.com/videos/california-has-budget-surplus-3-years-after-60b-deficit/


25 posted on 05/29/2013 8:24:06 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: EXCH54FE

They ought to try to register the illegal aliens, and leave us the hell alone!


26 posted on 05/29/2013 8:24:08 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: EXCH54FE

How about an illegal alien registry? You know, so there will be “documentation”.


27 posted on 05/29/2013 8:25:02 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: boycott

another! hahaha!

California Faces a New Quandary, Too Much Money
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/us/californias-new-problem-too-much-money.html?pagewanted=all


28 posted on 05/29/2013 8:25:19 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: FReepers; Patriots; FRiends



Keep FR Alive!
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29 posted on 05/29/2013 8:25:21 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Gene Eric
These gun-grabbing assholes will never be satisfied.

It isn't (really) about the guns, ammo, etc. What it really is about is fascists looking for control. Impeding our ability to stand up to them and fight back is just a bonus.

In the 20th century it cost several tens of millions of lives to learn that fascism and communism don't work - they only spread misery and death. Seems the human race forgets the lesson of liberty every generation or two and has to re-learn it the hard way. Looks like we're headed that way again.

30 posted on 05/29/2013 8:26:19 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Does Nevada and Arizona have strict ammo purchase rules? Could be a real profitable business to invest in..


31 posted on 05/29/2013 8:26:35 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: ez

He means “pressure cookers”. No more beef stew, folks. No more Irish corned beef, either.

More like Stalin’s rules in the good old days. Or was it Hitler’s rules on Jews owning certain things? Or both?

Hail the People’s Republic of Californication!


32 posted on 05/29/2013 8:26:46 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ModelBreaker

Don’t give these hammerheads any ideas.


33 posted on 05/29/2013 8:27:06 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: RC one

You bet. But I’m sure Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein and others are so excited that they can walk down any main street in California without having any armed security. And just think when Obama goes to California to raise more money he won’t have to take his secret security police or his armored car along. All is now safe.


34 posted on 05/29/2013 8:29:01 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Many will see no reason to observe or enforce an unconstitutional law. I suspect that some California counties will go to the courts and enact measures to nullify such unconstitutional laws.


35 posted on 05/29/2013 8:32:42 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: ModelBreaker
“To purchase a product that has the potential to maim or kill another human being you can (now) walk into a gun store, no questions asked,”

So there will follow, I assume, a registry for baseball bats and buckets?

Forget that. More people are killed each year from beatings with hands and feet than are killed by rifles - any/all rifles. So forget an "assault weapons ban" since so-called "assault rifles" account for an even smaller percentage of deaths than all rifles combined. I want to see junior registered with the state before you let him take that karate class. Maybe they should mandate ankle trackers on all martial arts students and practitioners?

Oh, while we're at it, better register and background check anyone purchasing a hammer at a home improvement store or hardware store. Seems you're also more likely to be bludgeoned to death with a hammer than shot/killed with a rifle. Maybe they should mandate micro-stamping of hammer heads?

36 posted on 05/29/2013 8:32:52 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Photo ID required to buy ammo? Heyyyyyy... I thought Democrats were AGAINST PHOTO ID because it discriminates against the less fortunate, like it does when it comes to voting! This means people in low income neighborhoods won’t be able to buy ammo.. THEY’RE GONNA BE MURDERED NOW BECAUSE OF DEMOCRATS!!! OOOOHH THE HUGE MANATEES!!!


37 posted on 05/29/2013 8:34:13 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: EXCH54FE

My wife and I love to travel with our Airstream trailer in tow. We are well armed when we travel. California will not be on our list of places to visit. I like the California weather, countryside and some of the beaches, but it’s no longer worth the risk.


38 posted on 05/29/2013 8:34:31 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: EXCH54FE

“Shall not be infringed”.. Is anyone challenging these illegal Bills with lawsuits?


39 posted on 05/29/2013 8:36:20 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: EXCH54FE

The Cop who testified made perfect sense.


40 posted on 05/29/2013 8:47:37 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Ca legislature ignores hitting the iceberg.


41 posted on 05/29/2013 8:52:07 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: EXCH54FE
We all knew this was coming...

Its up to Gov Brown now. I read on calguns he owns some "evil assault weapons" himself on his ranch in NorCal so this will affect him too.

But I imagine all of these may pass.

42 posted on 05/29/2013 8:57:24 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: NormsRevenge

I am from California and just bought ammo in Prescott AZ, no special requirements.


43 posted on 05/29/2013 9:01:29 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: EXCH54FE

And to think, back in 1982 the citizens of Cali voted down Prop 15 which would have banned handguns in Cali. Since then, the politicians have been working overtime trying to find a way around the will of the people.

it seems to me that if you refused to ban large capacity handguns in 1982, that the Politicians do not have the right to ban the magazines for them or the ammo for them.

What is to prevent the politicians from banning a six shot revolver in the future as long as five shot revolvers are on the market.


44 posted on 05/29/2013 9:07:05 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
"Its up to Gov Brown now. I read on calguns he owns some "evil assault weapons" himself on his ranch in NorCal so this will affect him too."

It won't affect him one bit. The beautiful people are exempt from the laws meant only for the proles...


45 posted on 05/29/2013 9:07:30 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: EXCH54FE

And keep a close eye on crime stats for the next 20 yrs.


46 posted on 05/29/2013 9:08:59 PM PDT by lurk
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To: EXCH54FE
SB 396, a ban on standard capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

Don't understand this one. Magazines over 10 rounds are already illegal in CA.
47 posted on 05/29/2013 9:10:37 PM PDT by fr_freak
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You can’t buy >10 round mags, but it is legal to posses any you owned prior to the law. This new bill bans POSSESSION as well. “All your standard cap mag belong to us”


48 posted on 05/29/2013 9:16:23 PM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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It means ALL mags over 10 rounds. No grandfathering. What was legal would now be illegal.


49 posted on 05/29/2013 9:17:49 PM PDT by yadent
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To: EXCH54FE

Dear Californian kulaks. I’ve been looking for a really nice condition 1917 Enfield thats been sporterized. An old Sears “Ted Williams” model would be perfect as long as it still has the stripper clip guides in the reciever. Private message me with details. Remember, if you have cash, you might be able to bribe the concentration camp guards for better treatment.

Good luck!


50 posted on 05/29/2013 9:18:01 PM PDT by Tailback
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