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Officials: Man who knew Boston bombing suspect was unarmed when shot
Washington Post ^ | May 29, 2013 | By Sari Horwitz and Peter Finn

Posted on 05/29/2013 10:32:35 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

A Chechen man who was fatally shot by an FBI agent last week during an interview about one of the Boston bombing suspects was unarmed, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

An air of mystery has surrounded the FBI shooting of Ibragim Todashev, 27, since it occurred in Todashev’s apartment early on the morning of May 22. The FBI said in a news release that day that Todashev, a former Boston resident who knew bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was killed during an interview with several law enforcement officers.

The FBI has provided few other details, saying that the matter is being investigated by an FBI review team that may not finish its probe for several months.

“The FBI takes very seriously any shooting incidents involving our agents and as such we have an effective, time-tested process for addressing them internally,” FBI spokesman Paul Bresson said in a statement Wednesday. “The review process is thorough and objective and conducted as expeditiously as possible under the circumstances.”

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1 posted on 05/29/2013 10:32:35 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

From article:

Initial reports citing anonymous law-enforcement individuals provided conflicting accounts of what happened. Some law enforcement officials said Todashev wielded a knife and others suggested that he attempted to grab the FBI agent’s gun.


2 posted on 05/29/2013 10:36:26 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Don’t care...


3 posted on 05/29/2013 10:37:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome
I care. It's a lost intel opportunity.

Well, okay, I don't care about him...

4 posted on 05/29/2013 10:40:32 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee; OwenKellogg; bunster; thouworm; maggief; onyx; AllAmericanGirl44; ...
And off we go to Boston where there is no one left to testify about the mysterious saudi dude, then down we go to Tampa where there is no one left to testify about ANYTHING.

Anyone wanting on or off this list...well, you know.

5 posted on 05/29/2013 10:42:23 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: MestaMachine

*Sigh*
Tomorrow.


6 posted on 05/29/2013 10:46:10 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: null and void

Welll.....Nope..

My give a damn dunn got busted...


7 posted on 05/29/2013 11:01:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: null and void
I agree. This sounds more like a rush to shut him up than to stop him from attacking.

And.. WHO was this guy?


8 posted on 05/29/2013 11:03:50 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

It isn’t Tsarneav. His gym pictures showed a lot more chest hair, unless it’s another perverted mudslime rite to shave oneself before going on jihad.


9 posted on 05/29/2013 11:10:59 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Brad from Tennessee

And, WHY is what happened still a mystery? Aren’t FBI agents trained to be expert witnesses? Weren’t they there? Haven’t they had enough time to all record their testimony - multiple times.

So, what is REALLY going on then?!


10 posted on 05/29/2013 11:17:01 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: Amberdawn

Appearance of skin in such lighting coupled with video artifacting.. Hmmm.. You’ll need more than just chest hair analysis to prove that’s not him. Height might narrow it down.


11 posted on 05/29/2013 11:17:26 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I remember reading that he tried to stab them.

I though to myself, why would they interview a suspect without securing him first and making sure the area in which the interview occurred was also secure?

You know I don’t know what to make of this except to say that I cannot believe one damn thing that anyone in this ****ing government says.

Not one damn thing.

I don’t really care what happens to terrorists.

But I don’t actually know that he was a terrorist, and I do care what happens to innocent people.

Is this man even dead?

Reality no longer exists in America.


12 posted on 05/29/2013 11:22:12 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: MestaMachine; onyx; maggief; penelopesire; SE Mom

Who called it?
Just sounded fishy from beginning !
Something is being shut up!


13 posted on 05/29/2013 11:31:45 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: chris37

The first story out from FL LEO was that the man had given testimony or a statement TO the fbi and was about to sign an affidavit...when suddenly they heard shots. No one else was in the room with the suspect except the fbi agent who shot him.


14 posted on 05/29/2013 11:39:00 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: null and void
I care. It's a lost intel opportunity.

Bingo. If I was the paranoid type, I'd start to wonder if those LEOs were cleaning up after somebody.

15 posted on 05/29/2013 11:39:58 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: hoosiermama

saudi dude gone with the wind.


16 posted on 05/29/2013 11:41:56 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: chris37

“I though to myself, why would they interview a suspect without securing him first and making sure the area in which the interview occurred was also secure”

Most street cops know the term “DFFA”. Dumb Fu^%$$G Federal Agent. Most feds have very limited contact with true criminals and do not understand the most basic officer safety tactics that a street cop or highway patrolman uses almost daily.
Imagine a police department where everyone has a university degree in accounting, law, information systems, mass communication, etc,, and then goes to a police academy run by the Federal government.
Thats what the Feds are. The main exception is the Border Patrol.


17 posted on 05/29/2013 11:44:58 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: MestaMachine

Just curious, is it standard practice for the FBI to interview someone at their apartment vs at a ‘location’?

I’m so damn tired of all these evil games and cover ups. This country is up to it’s neck in filth, foisted on us by power hungry no names - well, we know one name, old Valerie.

And unless I missed it, we never heard another peep about the saudi kid, did we?


18 posted on 05/29/2013 11:45:24 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: DesertRhino

I realize that this could be a possibility, and I also understand that the idiots in this government think that muslims are everyone’s best friend, but I cannot accept this.

The only things I know from what I have now understood to be the truth, and I say that with a damn mountain of salt, because truth does not exist in this country, is that I do not have any ****ing idea what happened to this man or if anything thing happened to this man, and I now also know that the FBI is a bunch of damn liars just like the rest of this country’s government.

Absolutely pathetic.


19 posted on 05/29/2013 11:57:38 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: MestaMachine

Yep, I recall reading that too. However it was the next day that I read that he tried to stab them somehow.

And I thought to myself well that sounds like a bunch of horesh!t.

And sure enough it is.

And I’m sure Daryl Issa will get right the **** on this 60 years from now or whatever.

I am really pissed off, man, I have had it with these liars.


20 posted on 05/30/2013 12:00:40 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Isn’t he the wrong-place-wrong-time guy? The one that lay face down in the street for a bit and then they stripped him to put him in the cruiser? Then they get him off somewhere then the news says no, he’s no involved he’s just wpwt fella?


21 posted on 05/30/2013 12:01:35 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Amberdawn
unless it’s another perverted mudslime rite to shave oneself before going on jihad.

It is.

22 posted on 05/30/2013 12:02:01 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

“And unless I missed it, we never heard another peep about the saudi kid, did we?”

Nope. Amd we never will.


23 posted on 05/30/2013 12:07:23 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: chris37

To follow the breadcrumbs, click the ping pic.


24 posted on 05/30/2013 12:13:51 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

An inside job?


25 posted on 05/30/2013 12:13:56 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Vendome

You should care.


26 posted on 05/30/2013 12:22:26 AM PDT by cydcharisse (`)
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To: Amberdawn

Remember, muzzies shave for their final jihad.


27 posted on 05/30/2013 12:31:36 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Where is that other thread on conspiracy theories. There is so much mystery around the entire handling of the boston bombing, right down to the 2 FBI agents who were investigating the bombing, and who just recently died in the helicopter “training accident” while repelling.

This thing is starting to stink to high heaven, but we will never know the truth behind it.


28 posted on 05/30/2013 12:53:52 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

When government hides the truth then denies it is hiding anything people are left to fill the void with speculation.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3025255/posts


29 posted on 05/30/2013 1:08:40 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
This thing stinks to high heaven. It is like a live version of the scene from Casablanca.

RENAULT: By the way, Monsieur, last night you evinced an interest in Signor Ugarte.

LASZLO: Yes.

RENAULT: I believe you have a message for him?

LASZLO: Nothing important, but may I speak to him now?

STRASSER: You would find the conversation a trifle one-sided. Signor Ugarte is dead.

RENAULT: I am making out the report now. We haven't quite decided whether he committed suicide or died trying to escape.


30 posted on 05/30/2013 1:09:09 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Interesting stuff. All the sources of intel involving 5th column government ops result in the source being offed.

Jack Ruby offing Lee Oswald comes to mind.Here we have an FBI agent offing an interviewee who has terror ties to Chechnya.Did he grab for the agents gun. Is there a cadre
of Muslim FBI agents who have an autocratic mandate from President Obama to act to protect the “presidents” policy on terror ( i.e there is none.)?

The suspect knew something that likely Obama had not wanted revealed in public, and the interviewee was NOT cooperating.

Bang-bang. Yer dead?


31 posted on 05/30/2013 1:43:11 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Well, somebody’s lying here since the FBI first said that he attacked and agent with a knife.


32 posted on 05/30/2013 2:32:52 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
May not finish its probe for several months.

Really? This is insane. I don't give a crap about the terrorist, but the only way a probe will take several months is if people are lying and the truth is near impossible to find. If no one is lying or hiding something it is a 5 minute conversation.

33 posted on 05/30/2013 2:35:37 AM PDT by BushCountry (What does it matter now!!)
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To: Candor7

My suspicion is that it was primarily careless police work on the part of the FBI. The Chechen was an MMA specialist, and why the FBI agent should have been in the room alone with him (a non-secure room in the man’s own apt.) is a little puzzling. There were two Massachusetts police officers there, but they were in another room; possibly they were watching or holding someone else in the apartment? In any case, it could simply have been poor procedure that led to the shooting.

However, the whole thing is mystifying. Was this an official FBI expedition, or was it one agent on his own? The MA police officers were there because of the murder investigation, but supposedly the FBI agent was trying to get a statement declaring that the Chechen had been involved only in the murders but was not involved in the terrorist attack. This would have been helpful to Obama’s claim that this had nothing to do with outside agents, so I can’t see them intentionally killing the Chechen before he signed the statement. Unless, of course, he was refusing to sign?

But as with all these things, I guess we’ll never know. The standard technique now is to launch an “investigation” that is secret, locks all records, and goes on for so long that the public forgets the incident.


34 posted on 05/30/2013 3:43:30 AM PDT by livius
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3008604/posts

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Quote:

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/22/police-probe-possible-link-between-marathon-bomber-and-unsolved-triple-homicide-waltham/T6MgaX0lur7plZrGj0HsvO/story.html

“Police probe possible link between Marathon bomber and unsolved triple homicide in Waltham”

04/22/2013 4:58 PM
By Michael Rezendes, Globe Staff

SNIPPET: “Previously, investigators had said that Brendan Mess, 25, along with Erik Weissman, 25, and Raphael Teken, 37, were killed on Sept. 12, 2011, in Mess’s apartment on Harding Street, a quiet residential street in Waltham. They also said they believed drugs were involved.

But the relative interviewed by the Globe said the murders took place the evening before, on Sept. 11, the 10th anniversary of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The relative said he knew this because he was texting one of the victims about a Sunday night football game between the New York Jets and Dallas Cowboys when communication with the victims suddenly stopped at about 8:15 that evening.

“The three of them were definitely killed on Sept. 11,” the relative said. “They all stopped using their cellphones at about eight o’clock that night.””

95 posted on April 23, 2013 3:14:54 AM PDT by Cindy

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3008604/posts?page=116#116

ADDING to post no. 95:

http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?1267-CT-threat-assessment-checklist-for-Ibragim-Todashev

Forum.Internet-Haganah.com: “CT threat assessment checklist for Ibragim Todashev”
(May 22, 2013)

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http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/05/cops_slain_russian_had_history_of_rage_violence

“Cops: Slain Russian had history of rage, violence”

Wednesday, May 22, 2013

by: O’Ryan Johnson, Laurel J. Sweet

SNIPPET: “Ibragim Todashev — the Russian shot dead overnight by the FBI while being questioned in connection with the marathon bombing and a Waltham triple murder — was arrested by Boston police in 2010 after a road rage incident in Downtown Crossing, and by Florida police just weeks ago after a violent parking lot assault.

The FBI and law enforcement sources say Todashev, 27, a former Cambridge resident, was being questioned by agents and Massachusetts state troopers when he attacked an agent with a knife and was shot dead.”

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/22/man-fatally-shot-by-fbi-agent-in-florida

“Florida man killed by FBI agent reportedly had link to Boston Marathon bomber, triple murder”

Published May 22, 2013
FoxNews.com

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Quote:

www.fbi.gov/boston/press-releases/2013/fbi-boston-divisions-response-to-shooting-incident-in-orlando-florida

FBI Boston Division’s Response to Shooting Incident in Orlando, Florida

FBI Boston
May 22, 2013

The FBI is currently reviewing a shooting incident involving an FBI special agent. Based on preliminary information, the incident occurred in Orlando, Florida during the early morning hours of May 22, 2013.

The agent, two Massachusetts State Police troopers, and other law enforcement personnel were interviewing an individual in connection with the Boston Marathon bombing investigation when a violent confrontation was initiated by the individual. During the confrontation, the individual was killed and the agent sustained non-life threatening injuries. As this incident is under review, we have no further details at this time.

116 posted on May 23, 2013 2:24:47 AM PDT by Cindy


35 posted on 05/30/2013 4:03:03 AM PDT by Cindy
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Updates:

www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston


36 posted on 05/30/2013 4:11:11 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Give him a medal!


37 posted on 05/30/2013 4:50:57 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: cydcharisse

38 posted on 05/30/2013 4:54:39 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It appears from the story that the agent ended up with “...cuts and abrasions....” after he and the suspect were left in the room alone for a minute when other LEOs stepped out. Suspect saw the ONLY opportunity he would ever have after that for a one-on-one chance to kill an LEO and went for the agent. He was a martial arts fighter and probably a pretty good one and the FBI agent was getting his butt kicked (cuts and abrasions), was in danger of losing his weapon and had no other choice but to Trayvon the guy. End of story.


39 posted on 05/30/2013 5:10:06 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: null and void

lost intel opp. my butt; they guy was killed on purpose to shut him up.


40 posted on 05/30/2013 5:13:51 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

That’s a pretty interesting hypothesis.

But before the story ends, I’d like the truth.

I can handle the truth, but it seems that my government cannot handle the truth.


41 posted on 05/30/2013 6:39:26 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

You mean the gubmint LIED to us when they told us he was wielding a KNIFE?

Big Brother wouldn’t LIE to us, would he?


42 posted on 05/30/2013 6:46:48 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: hoosiermama

I called it within an hour or two of the first report. Fish. No chance the FBI failed so miserably to secure an interviewee.


43 posted on 05/30/2013 6:49:27 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: DesertRhino

“The main exception is the Border Patrol”

Right you are, on all counts.


44 posted on 05/30/2013 7:42:18 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Darteaus94025
And, WHY is what happened still a mystery? Aren’t FBI agents trained to be expert witnesses? Weren’t they there? Haven’t they had enough time to all record their testimony - multiple times.

They need time to carefully edit any video from cameras they had with them.

If they claim they didn't have recording equipment with them (which is most likely a lie), the question would be "why the frack not?"

45 posted on 05/30/2013 7:45:38 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: chris37

Nothing by this regime is believable. That is the end take on all this stuff we’re seeing.

If we’re willing to live with never being able to trust anything, then we’re already there.

If we’re unwilling to live with that reality, then we’ve got to buck up and resist. We. Not Congress. Not the media. We. Because it is only when Congress and the media realize that we can do an end run around them, that they will ever stop their incessant buzzing around our eyes on stuff that doesn’t even matter.

We need to demand that Congress tell us the truth on who the Saudi “person of interest” really was.

We need to demand that Congress tell us the truth on who Obama really is.

When we find those things out, IRS, Benghazi, the Navy SEAL Team 6 deaths, Fast and Furious, and everything else about this regime will make sense.


46 posted on 05/30/2013 7:55:13 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: null and void

Were Tamarlan and Djokar (or however you spell his name) shaved? Was Tamarlan in the supposed death photo?

(And I say supposed because, like Chris, I don’t think I can believe any stinkin’ thing this stinkin’ regime and all its peripheral people tell us; they are liars who know they can get away with any stinkin’ thing because of this stinkin’ media, stinkin’ Congress, and stinkin’ Hollywood-headed know-nothing public.)

But is the shaving only if it is a suicide attack? I thought the idea was to be ritually pure to meet the 72 virgins or something.


47 posted on 05/30/2013 8:01:56 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: MestaMachine

The spooks who risked 20 years in prison to give information to 10 key members of Congress are going to go out without another peep? The 10 members of Congress, Glenn Beck... all of them are going to just shrug their shoulders and give up?


48 posted on 05/30/2013 8:03:08 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I wasn’t aware of their connection to the Boston bombing investigation.

Part of the communist plan is to bombard the system beyond its ability to keep up. That’s the Cloward-Piven Plan for the economy and elections (and Obama was the attorney making the legal moves critical for that plan, in the only legal actions he took with his Saudi-funded, Ayers-implemented Harvard law degree). And they are definitely doing that with their corruption. Anybody who takes a week off of the constant INTERNET news loses out on major chunks of big stories.

We need to have people who just index the stories, with a post that ties together the significance of the stories indexed so that the general public doesn’t have to read everything and do their own processing to figure everything out, or slog through a lot of posts. An index post that can be amended to include updated info and documentation.

Doing that would take so much time and effort that a person couldn’t do justice to the stories if they tried to cover more than 2-3 different stories that way. My concentration has been on Obama’s documentation mess and the crimes committed to cover for that. But we need people to do the same kind of thing for the other issues as well - providing analysis and supporting documentation exposing the lies, shifting stories, etc.


49 posted on 05/30/2013 8:14:36 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

What? You don’t believe EVERYTHING Mr. Holder says? Nor Mr. Obama? Hehe.


50 posted on 05/30/2013 8:42:55 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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