Skip to comments.Why Did the FBI Kill an Unarmed Man and Clam Up?
Posted on 05/30/2013 8:26:01 AM PDT by forty_years
What led an FBI agent, or some other law enforcement official, to shoot and kill an unarmed man in Orlando, Florida? The man, Ibragim Todashev, was being questioned about the Boston bombing, as well as an unsolved 2011 triple murder that he may or may not have confessed to committing. Does that sound sketchy? Don't blame me. Once he died, law enforcement started releasing anonymous, conflicting explanations so dubious that they warrant an inquiry all by themselves.
Did the dead man have a knife? A gun? A sword? None of those? Let's run through a timeline of what we've been told, and then assess all the information that the FBI hasn't released about the killing. ...
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Although I have no sympathy for the deceased here, this situation along with the changing stories really stinks.
Because dead men tell no tales...
“Although I have no sympathy for the deceased here, this situation along with the changing stories really stinks.”
When you have a complicit media, and a stupid public, changing stories constantly is an excellent tactic. The public doesn’t have the ability or the patience to try to follow the lies, and the media will rarely point out contradictions.
Obama can do almost anything, and by the third or fourth iteration of the story, the public loses interest.
FBI Assassin Squads ? FBI Cleanup Squads ?
(1) The author is apparently surprised that the press gets details wrong and gives out conflicting information on a breaking story. Even though this happens every time on every breaking story.
(2) The author is apparently surprised that there is such a thing as a desire for martyrdom among Islamic extremists. It shocks him that an Islamist would try to attack and disarm an agent of the hated US government.
Scary but true.You can launder just about anything in America. All you need to do is adjust the spin cycle.
—how do we know he’s really dead?
Whether it’s a SWAT raid of Gibson Guitars or the unexplained death of a person of interest, the Federal government is clearly out of control and an enemy of the people.
Moral of the story: Never allow FBI, IRS agents, or any other official of ‘the new regime’ to be with you WITHOUT a video camera rolling or a neutral member of the public present.
Probably the same reason that they seem to have pushed two FBI agents involved in the case out of a helicopter to drown at sea. But what that reason is—other than some sort of cover-up to protect Obama—isn’t precisely clear.
Was this person a Muslim?
I just saw this linked via Yahoo and was going to post it. You would think that a seasoned FBI agent would be able to subdue and restrain someone without using lethal force.
You know what they say: From the head down...
This is now officially an X-File, Mulder. You’re off the case.
If he was as bad a$$ as the reports suggest it could be justified. If he’s on top of an FBI agent pounding his face I’d put a couple of rounds in him.
There is always the remote possibility they wanted him shut up for good.
This has been the Clinton strategy going back years.
The most notable was with Waco where the different agencies, FBI and ATF created numerous stories to confuse people.
told the Times that “the shooting occurred after Mr. Todashev had admitted his role in the killings” -mmm-mm- yes.
Maybe the deceased made the mistake of mentioning his off-the-record meeting with Eric Holder, just to get the facts straight. :)
Waterboarding was anathematized, at least for moslems, by the kenyan because the information so gleaned was detrimental to the policies of the Administraton.
Just a guess, but I would say he knew why the date of the bombing was changed from the original July 4th date and why they had been instructed to “spontaneously” plan an attack on New York after the Boston bombing.
Nothing quite like using another terrorist attack to make it appear as if a lie from another terrorist attack just might be true.
Another “Cover Up?????. Naw! Not from the “Most Transparent Administration ever. Its gotten so bad that the corrupt Mexican government is learning from us.
mmmm—perhaps holder could hold a closed door, super secret, off the record meeting to disclose the reason.
I bet you he was doubled and saw a chance to attack his case officer. Or his case officer saw a chance to clean up his case file.
You will just have to take what the FBI says happened> Todashev cannot tell his side! For one why was he not taken downtown to the cop shop and interrogated? Most prosecutors like to see the video of the interrogation.
If he was even considered dangerous he would have been cuffed! Looks like rookies day out!
murderers don’t talk
Re: video cameras rolling. I heard recently that the FBI, when they stormed the THREE (3) Gibson factories, forced employees outside and TURNED OFF the VIDEO cameras. Now, gee, shazam...... why would that be?
This government is MORE than out of control. It’s frightening.
Clear up his case file?
He would be seen as a hero if he got info to “clean up” the Boston bombing, not so much killing someone before they could give you info on the bombing.
An armed agent is left alone with someone that is known to be a MMA fighter which has admitted to being involved with multiple murders and connected to known terrorist.
Story just doesn’t add up.
I read early on that the guy was a MMA competitior on a local basis.
He may have waited until the agents guard was down in what appeared to be a friendly interview and then just uncorked on him. It would be easy to be on the downhill side of an encounter like that and have no other choice that to use his weapon. AKA-George Zimmerman.
this happened at sea????
They’re usually called Hostage Rescue Teams.
So it was a kind of deathbed confession.
Two of the agents were practicing roping onto a ship at sea. They were part of the FBI’s hostage rescue team. Apparently, they fell off the ropes and were killed when they landed on the ship.
Massachusetts law enforcement said he had originally been a suspect in the Boston murders. So why was he being interviewed in an apartment? There were two Mass. State Troopers along with the agent. Certainly they could have taken him to a local law enforcement facility or FBI office to conduct an interview. This was bad planning from the beginning. Probably too lazy to do the job right.
I would have too, but poor George Zimmerman is going through hell because he did exactly that. I doubt we'll ever really know the truth about what happened in that apartment.
If you don't see there is a problem, or are cheering on the 0bama regime, there will be a time of reckoning...trust me.
Something really stinks in this case. First they say the deceased lunges at a feebie with a knife, then they say he was unarmed. They say at least six law enforcement people involved in interrogation which had gone on for several hours. Why wasn’t the suspect brought to a law enforcement facility? Why wasn’t he properly secured. If local cops shoot an unarmed suspect or the shooting is otherwise questionable the case goes to a grand jury this case cries out for a grand jury to learn the facts. We all know dead men tell no tales. Were they trying to scare him into confessing via a “Russian roulette” scenario? With the DOJ, FBI, State Dept et al out of control, and not trusted, the people need to know what happened.
Cuz the FBI mistook him for a ‘threatening’ dog??
Ahhhh, the “woof, woof” defense?
Even tho’ I’m pretty sure this guy was a jihadi sympathizer, if not in fact a co-conspirator, I have to say this story kind of stinks.
If they just screwed up, why don’t they admit it?
LEOs interrogate dangerous people every day, I can’t remember another story where the questionee got killed.
And a lawyer.
“Probably the same reason that they seem to have pushed two FBI agents involved in the case out of a helicopter to drown at sea.”
Please give us some more info on this!