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Robert Dole’s Two Cents
New York Sun ^ | May 28, 2013 | Masthead Editorial

Posted on 05/30/2013 8:50:00 AM PDT by neverdem

The Democrats are in a swoon over the fact that Senator Dole is complaining about the Republicans. The former Republican leader in the upper house told Christopher Wallace of Fox News that the GOP “ought to put a sign on the national committee doors that says ‘closed for repairs.’” He reckons the GOP lacks for “ideas and positive agendas.” Mr. Wallace asked Mr. Dole whether he could make it in today’s Republican Party “I doubt it,” Mr. Dole said dolefully. “Reagan couldn’t have made it. Certainly Nixon couldn’t have made it, cause he had ideas. We might have made it, but I doubt it.”

Mr. Dole mightn’t want to get too far up on his high horse. Oh, we understand, he was a war hero who twice rose to the Republican national ticket — once, in 1976, as the vice president candidate running with President Ford. The two of...

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The jibe that Republican Party today lacks for ideas we don’t buy. The most important idea today is constitutional conservatism. We have remarked on this before. It is different than either paleo- or neo- or libertarian- or Christian-conservatism, to number the varieties that have given good service in recent decades. It looks on the principles that animated the American founding and were enshrined in the parchment that is the supreme law of the land. It welcomes all races, classes, and creeds (or those who hold no religious creed), so long as they are prepared to pursue a close reading of the Constitution. It’s a glorious idea that leads to a strong foreign policy, limited government, and sound money. It protects rights not by grants from the government but by restricting the power of the government. If these ideas triumph it will be because of the rising generation of the GOP.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: 113th; bho44; bobdole

1 posted on 05/30/2013 8:50:00 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

There are plenty of good, positive ideas being brought up. The GOP-E, of which Dole is a member, is suppressing them.


2 posted on 05/30/2013 8:52:45 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: neverdem

Why is it that senile old RINOs feel it neecessary to attack their party even more vicously than when in their prime.

Dole is, was and always will be ..... an idiot!


3 posted on 05/30/2013 8:52:47 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: neverdem

Dole’s about as relevant today..as Howard Dean..slightly more so than Jimmy Carter


4 posted on 05/30/2013 8:52:57 AM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: neverdem
Dole was the “tax collector for the welfare state.”

I don't recall who gave him that moniker but it fits.

5 posted on 05/30/2013 8:53:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: neverdem
"Mr. Wallace asked Mr. Dole whether he could make it in today’s Republican Party “I doubt it,” Mr. Dole said dolefully. “Reagan couldn’t have made it."

Nonsense. While I agree that a RINO like Dole couldn't make it, Reagan would be a darling of the Tea Party crowd - Just like he was back in 1980 with the equivilent Republican base. The silk stocking Republicans were saying the same thing about Reagan back in '80 that Dole is saying about the Republican party now.

6 posted on 05/30/2013 8:53:41 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: neverdem

I like Bob Dole but he is out in left field again. Bob spent his life in the minority until the “bomb throwers” like Newt captured Congress from the lefties. This isn’t debatable. It’s fact.


7 posted on 05/30/2013 8:56:33 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: neverdem
Robert Dole’s Two Cents

An argument in favor of eliminating the penny as being useless.

8 posted on 05/30/2013 8:56:34 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died, now Obama covers up the lies.)
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To: circlecity

“Mr. Wallace asked Mr. Dole whether he could make it in today’s Republican Party”

He did not make it in his party either. He needs to be reminded he lost the election so ...


9 posted on 05/30/2013 8:56:46 AM PDT by edcoil (If you can't change the rules, then ignore them.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“I don’t recall who gave him that moniker but it fits.”

The man who gave Dole that nickname was none other than Newt Gingrich! And Dole hated him for it. And Dole was responsible for the republicans caving to Clinton in the ‘95 shutdown. For moderate repulicans always cave to democrats.


10 posted on 05/30/2013 8:56:51 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: neverdem

Robert Dole’s “2 cents” is not worth “2 cents” IMHO!


11 posted on 05/30/2013 8:58:48 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: neverdem

Certainly Nixon couldn’t have made it, cause he had ideas.
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Yeah, like the EPA giant that we are now having to battle. Thanks, fellas...


12 posted on 05/30/2013 8:59:52 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: cotton1706

I remember when Bob Dole was nominated.
I immediately knew we had lost...


13 posted on 05/30/2013 8:59:58 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: neverdem
Certainly Nixon couldn’t have made it, cause he had ideas.

Yes he did. Stupid ideas but they were ideas.

Ideas like wage and price controls, the EPA, dumping the gold standard, the War on Drugs.

I could go on but I want to leave some fun for the rest of you.

14 posted on 05/30/2013 9:01:36 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: neverdem

So bobdole complains about the Republicans. Hell, even Harry Reid complains about the Republicans.


15 posted on 05/30/2013 9:02:38 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: cotton1706

Thanks for the reminder.


16 posted on 05/30/2013 9:05:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: neverdem

I heard a clip yesterday, it was painful listening. He sounded 200 years old. Thankful for his service in WWII, but not as a senator.


17 posted on 05/30/2013 9:05:59 AM PDT by Jaxmum
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To: neverdem

Thing is, here are the FACTS:

1) Bob Dole was nominated by Republicans in an era (1996 - not that long ago!) that likewise sought a Reagan-esque candidate. (Because of the GOP-e we settled on Dole and got behind him although we all knew he was a RINO.)

2) Using the standard RINO GOP-e trick, Bob Dole, the RINO, picked Jack Kemp, the arch-Conservative, as his running mate.

3) Bob Dole was REJECTED by American voters, not the Republicans who nominated him.

4) Bob Dole played footsie with Bill Clinton in the election, and like McCain who followed him, attacked Republican primary rivals much harder and vigorously than he went after Clinton. It was almost a love-fest between Dole and Clinton during the campaign.

5) Clinton himself is on record as saying after the election that he felt fortunate he drew such a weak opponent as Dole.


18 posted on 05/30/2013 9:07:09 AM PDT by Obadiah (What is twisted cannot be straightened...)
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To: ZULU

Viagra did it to him.

He has been duly warned to seek medical help for erections lasting more than four hours, but he is not listening.


19 posted on 05/30/2013 9:14:10 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: neverdem

We all say dumb things when we get very old. Leave the old guy alone, and stop quoting him on anything important.


20 posted on 05/30/2013 9:16:16 AM PDT by cookcounty (Blah-Blah-Barak, Blah-Blah-Barak, you got me rockin and a reelin...)
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To: neverdem

Who was this “Bob Dole?”


21 posted on 05/30/2013 9:17:28 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: cookcounty

Bob Dole said a lot of dumb things when he was younger as well. Age has nothing to do with his RINO stupidity.

BTW, how old is this guy, 100? Time for Bob to STFU and go home.


22 posted on 05/30/2013 9:26:19 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: cotton1706

“And Dole was responsible for the republicans caving to Clinton in the ‘95 shutdown.” AND he was PRIMARILY responsible for WEAKA$$ George HW Bush breaking his “No New Taxes””Pledge” in 1990.


23 posted on 05/30/2013 9:29:07 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: neverdem

Dole and Sillybus were two people from Kansas that Dorothy should have taken to the Land of Odds with her and left there.


24 posted on 05/30/2013 9:32:45 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: jwalsh07

“I like Bob Dole...”

I guess you also like” being out on that limb by yourself! Dole never saw a tax he didn’t like. I see him as the one the Boner emulates today. I just wish the old bastard would sit quietly and shut up! I’ve had it up to my a$$ with “war heros” who should have stayed in the military because it was the only thing that they were good at, instead of capitalizing on their war exploits to gain access to our legislatures. Dole can never erase his sorry record by pointing to what he did in WWII, and likewise McLame.


25 posted on 05/30/2013 9:34:46 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

McCain wasn’t in WW2. :-} Just joshing. Dole had a wry wit and an acerbic tongue that could be endearing to certain of us when he aimed them at lefties. Hard to not like a guy when they get blown up and rehab themselves though. Doesn’t mean I want him to be POTUS or Mayor for that matter. For me anyway.


26 posted on 05/30/2013 9:40:58 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: vette6387

He could not have stayed in the military. His injuries took away the use of his right arm so that staying in the miliary was not an option. There was nothing else he could do in the ‘real’ world so that politics was his only option. Poor option but that was all that was left for him. GOP-e loved him because of his war injuries.


27 posted on 05/30/2013 9:48:48 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: neverdem

If b dole couldn’t be part of today’s Republican party, we must be making progess. . . .


28 posted on 05/30/2013 10:03:58 AM PDT by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: 353FMG

He needs a large condum - one about body-sized.

God, how I HATE these RINO bastards.


29 posted on 05/30/2013 10:13:59 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: ZULU

Dole still hasn’t figured out why he lost. He, like McCain is a RINO who deesn ‘t understand that compromise is OK, as long as both sides truly compromise.


30 posted on 05/30/2013 11:05:27 AM PDT by paguch
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To: neverdem

BOB DOLE IS MORE OF A DIM THAN A REPUBLICAN AND HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND HE ALWAYS WILL BE.


31 posted on 05/30/2013 11:20:03 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: neverdem

I remember that with Clinton almost drowning in scandal, Dole couldn’t bring himself to use any of it. I remember during one of the debates Clinton almost dared him to bring it up and for half a second I saw Dole considering it... and then change the subject. I knew then Dole was toast.

And if you are running against one of the most corrupt presidents in history and you dare not mention it, maybe you have good reason not to go there. Who knows.


32 posted on 05/30/2013 11:33:28 AM PDT by marron
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To: neverdem

Bob Dole = Less insane version of John McCain.


33 posted on 05/30/2013 11:37:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: neverdem

the currently inflated value of Dole’s $.02 is only about .006 or .008 cents max in today’s coinage.

Very few people would stoop to pick it up off the street.


34 posted on 05/30/2013 11:43:40 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....Obama Denies Role in Government)
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To: neverdem
Gosh, it's Bob Dole. I thought he'd gone to the elephant's graveyard. (He really sounded bad in the interview.)

Here is a man, who as Senate Majority Leader, never failed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by rolling over for the Donkeys. Elizabeth Dole has more testosterone in her than her husband.

35 posted on 05/30/2013 12:43:12 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

He would have done the country a greater service if he had sold pencils on a street corner. We have such screwed up values when it comes to choosing our leaders.


36 posted on 05/30/2013 8:31:38 PM PDT by vette6387
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