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Jefferson Davis still remembered in Dixie
Canda Free Press ^ | June 1, 2013 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 06/01/2013 3:13:19 PM PDT by BigReb555

The time is long overdue for school teachers throughout this nation to teach not only the historical facts about Abraham Lincoln, but also those about Jefferson Davis.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dixie; jeffersondavis; president; southern; whitesupremacist
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When was the last time you visited Stone Mountain Park with the world famous carving of legendary Americans: Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson or beautiful Hollywood Cemetery in Richmond, Virginia where Jefferson Davis is buried?

The Jefferson Davis Presidential Library will be officially dedicated on his birthday Monday, June 3, 2013 at “Beauvoir” Davis’ last home on the Mississippi Gulf Coast in Biloxi. Read more at: http://www.beauvoir.org/events/index.html

You have probably heard about or seen the movie “Lincoln” which was produced and Directed by famed film Director Steven Spielberg in 2012. The movie has been called superb and did have an excellent cast that included veteran actors Tommy Lee Jones and Sally Field. Hollywood has produced movies about Abraham Lincoln, some good, some bad and others forgettable like “Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter” but I do not remember any made about the life and times of Jefferson Davis. Polls reflect the Southern people’s equal admiration for Jefferson Davis and Abraham Lincoln but….

During these “political correct” times Southerners are often depicted on TV and in the movies as backward and dumb. The truth is that the South is the birth place of many intelligent, well-spoken and patriotic people like that of Jefferson Davis who was a great orator and there was standing room only on the floors of the United States Senate when he delivered his February 9, 1861 resignation speech as Mississippi Senator.

Mr. Spielberg, would you direct and produce a movie about Jefferson Davis who like Lincoln was born in the State of Kentucky?

The time is long overdue for school teachers throughout this nation to teach not only the historical facts about Abraham Lincoln, but also those about Jefferson Davis.

Jefferson Davis like many Southerners was against secession but recognized the sovereignty of each state of the Union and their Constitutional right to secede. Jefferson Finis Davis was born on June 3, 1808, in Christian County, Kentucky. Davis who would become the first and only President of the Confederate States of America. He was a strong Unionist and a strong defender of the United States Constitution.

Here are a few of his many accomplishments:

• Graduate of West Point Military Academy • Fought valiantly in the War with Mexico • United States Senator • Secretary of War under President Franklin Pierce • First to suggest the transcontinental railroad to link the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans • First to suggest the Panama Canal Zone • Suggested the purchase of Cuba • Appointed Robert E. Lee Superintendent of West Point Military Academy

Jefferson Davis' last marriage was a good one to Varina, who gave her husband four sons and two daughters (Billy, Joseph, Jefferson, Samuel, Margaret and Winnie). Joseph was killed by an accidental fall at the Confederate White House in Richmond, Virginia in 1864, Samuel died at age 2 and an abused black child named Jim Limber was virtually adopted as a member of the Davis family.

In 1865, Jim was forcibly removed by Union soldiers and never seen again. It is said that the Davis children were crying at the scene and poor Jim was kicking and not making it easy for his abductors. After the War Between the States, Jefferson Davis tried to locate the whereabouts of Jim Limber, but was not successful.

The funeral for Jefferson Davis was attended by thousands of mourners. Milo Cooper, a former servant, traveled all the way from Florida to pay his last respects. It is written that, upon entering Davis' sick room, Cooper burst into tears and threw himself on his knees in prayer that God would spare the life of his old master and bless Davis family. Davis is buried at Hollywood Cemetery in Richmond, Virginia.

The Jefferson Davis Monument State Historic Site is a Kentucky State Park preserving the birthplace of Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederate States of America. It is located in Fairview, Kentucky, in Todd County.

God bless America’s Heroes of yesterday and today!

1 posted on 06/01/2013 3:13:19 PM PDT by BigReb555
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To: BigReb555
Jefferson Davis was offered the opportunity to serve as the first president of Texas A&M University. Unfortunately he declined. Although Texas A&M is one of the more Conservative educational institutions, I can help but wonder how much better it would have become upon the stewardship of this truly remarkable man.


2 posted on 06/01/2013 3:19:58 PM PDT by re_nortex
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To: re_nortex

One of many complex men in a very complex time.


3 posted on 06/01/2013 3:21:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BigReb555
He said:

“We feel that our cause is just and holy; we protest solemnly in the face of mankind that we desire peace at any sacrifice save that of honour and independence; we ask no conquest, no aggrandizement, no concession of any kind from the States with which we were lately confederated; all we ask is to be let alone; that those who never held power over us shall not now attempt our subjugation by arms.”

President Jefferson Davis - 29 April 1861

4 posted on 06/01/2013 3:24:42 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge

If he said THAT, he probably was a Tea Party member back then.


5 posted on 06/01/2013 3:28:40 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: cripplecreek; nathanbedford
One of many complex men in a very complex time.

That's very true and not only applicable to Jefferson Davis but also to Nathan Bedford Forrest as well. Check out nathanbedord's About Page to get the full measure of this man who doesn't fit into the leftist characterture that's been repeated ad nauseum to the point that it's become taken as fact.

6 posted on 06/01/2013 3:29:06 PM PDT by re_nortex
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To: re_nortex

Sam Houston is another. He loved his south but desired an option other than war.


7 posted on 06/01/2013 3:31:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BigReb555
Jefferson Davis Pie ___ If you've never had it you're really missing something.

Ricipe here: http://sweetteaandcornbread.blogspot.com/2013/05/jefferson-davis-pie.html

8 posted on 06/01/2013 3:34:10 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: BigReb555

“Jefferson Davis Revisited”
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=91208160339

Jefferson Davis: American Patriot
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=180518325


9 posted on 06/01/2013 3:35:04 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: BigReb555

A better man than Lincoln by far.


10 posted on 06/01/2013 3:37:07 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: cripplecreek
Sam Houston is another. He loved his south but desired an option other than war.

Houston truly was a great and wise man.

So much misery would have been avoided if he had been listened to.

From Wikipedia:

After leaving the Governor's mansion, Houston traveled to Galveston. Along the way, many people demanded an explanation for his refusal to support the Confederacy. On April 19, 1861 from a hotel window he told a crowd:

Let me tell you what is coming. After the sacrifice of countless millions of treasure and hundreds of thousands of lives, you may win Southern independence if God be not against you, but I doubt it. I tell you that, while I believe with you in the doctrine of states rights, the North is determined to preserve this Union. They are not a fiery, impulsive people as you are, for they live in colder climates. But when they begin to move in a given direction, they move with the steady momentum and perseverance of a mighty avalanche; and what I fear is, they will overwhelm the South.

11 posted on 06/01/2013 3:45:38 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: BigReb555

Jefferson Davis will always be a better patriot than Lincoln. I have always stated that we should have another go at it, and let’s see who’ll come out on top.


12 posted on 06/01/2013 3:45:47 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Leaning Right

Between Sam Houston and the Freesoil party, war would have been avoided, slavery would have died its natural death and states rights would not have caught cancer.


13 posted on 06/01/2013 3:53:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: .45 Long Colt
Jefferson Davis: American Patriot

Thank you very much for posting this. It's very enlightening. If only leftists would give this a thorough listening, their whole worldview would be shaken.

14 posted on 06/01/2013 4:00:17 PM PDT by re_nortex
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Jefferson Davis was/is a traitor.

Ditto, Robert E. Lee!

15 posted on 06/01/2013 4:12:55 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: BigReb555
The man known as "Jim Limber" - whose real name may actually have been James Henry Brooks - was not "forcibly taken away" by Union troops, but given into the care of Rufus Saxton by Varina Davis, who sent the youth to school in Charleston after the war.

It was Jefferson Davis who was the one forcibly removed.

It is right to say that any adoption by the Davises was "virtual" - since it was illegal under Virginia law for a white family to adopt a child with black ancestry. Legal to purchase certainly, but not to adopt.

The Davis family loved him so dearly that there is no record they ever attempted to contact him again.

16 posted on 06/01/2013 4:29:26 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: rovenstinez

TEA party members aren’t cowardly treasonous insurrectionists (generally speaking).


17 posted on 06/01/2013 4:29:44 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Reagan Man
"Jefferson Davis was/is a traitor. Ditto, Robert E. Lee! "

Strictly your opinion. There is another side that equation.

18 posted on 06/01/2013 4:33:36 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I have sexdaily. Oops, I meant dyslexia.)
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To: Leaning Right
William Sherman similarly had no personal animus toward the south. He was the Superintendant of the Louisiana State Seminary and Military Academy, which would later become LSU. In December 1860, he gave an admonition very similar to Houston's:

"You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it… Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail."

19 posted on 06/01/2013 4:39:53 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: BigReb555

I was born in Atlanta and lived most of my life in Texas.

Slavery was evil. Buying and selling human beings like cattle was evil. The Confederacy was evil.

Enslaving human beings, be it Marxism, Nazism, Islam, or the Confederacy is evil.

Period.


20 posted on 06/01/2013 4:44:37 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: BigReb555

don’t they mean “revered”?


21 posted on 06/01/2013 4:49:22 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Reagan Man

22 posted on 06/01/2013 4:49:27 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: BigReb555

Do you have fathers who fought with the Confederate States of America?

Sons of Confederate Veterans
http://www.scv.org/


23 posted on 06/01/2013 4:53:15 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: stinkerpot65

Your puerile comments reveal in you a shallow understanding of the Confederacy and her history.

Do some homework.


24 posted on 06/01/2013 5:04:37 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: BigReb555

Hurricane Katrina devastated the Jefferson Davis Presidential Library and washed away many historical documents and artifacts. I’m glad that it has been restored.


25 posted on 06/01/2013 5:24:06 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: servantboy777

The question is not if but why...a man can kill for just or unjust reasons...a war can be fought for just or unjust reason..a revolution can be waged for a just ore unjust reasons...a state can leave the union for a just or unjust reason

We hear over and over about the south fighting for “The Cause” well the reason IS the cause...

So what was the reason for the southern states leaving the union..Lincoln being elected seem to be be the last straw that trigger it all..why?..well read Lincoln first inaugural speech to get his idea of why

Because im of the opinion that WHOEVER won in 1860 the war would of still happening because if the south had got what they wanted at the Federal level the northern states would of left the union...and the south wanted the federal power imposed on the north

So the question is not if..but why..tell us the reason why


26 posted on 06/01/2013 5:33:37 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: servantboy777
The proof is now self-evident that the South was right all along.

The patriotism of Hank Williams, Jr. is unquestionable and his song, If The South Would Have Won (We'd Have it Made) is worth a listen.


27 posted on 06/01/2013 5:33:48 PM PDT by re_nortex
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To: Reagan Man

I tend to think Lincoln was the “traitor” Along with some of his top command. Just because he was victorious doesn’t make him right.Much like the government we have right now.They have a lot of power at the moment, but that doesn’t make them patriots, or “right”.


28 posted on 06/01/2013 5:35:01 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Reagan Man

29 posted on 06/01/2013 5:35:13 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill
Thanks for the posting of the Confederate Battle flag. I think you'll enjoy this. The fellow across the street from me here in my Texas neighborhood is a liberal Yankee from Nashua, NH and is a real piece of work. He's been here since the mid-90s, brazenly refusing to assimilate and complaining about the lack of the four seasons here in Texas. Of course, he supports Obama, is an atheist and drives one of those little clown cars favored by leftist types.

My next door neighbor, a Tea Party Patriot, and I always look forward to tweaking him, most recently on Earth Day, when we turn on all the lights, run our lawnmowers and he keeps his motorcycle roaring in the driveway. Earlier this year, we had a great time on MLK day by flying our Confederate flags, along with the Texas and American flags. He was fuming!

Our work must be paying off. His daughter is a cheerleader at high school and speaks with a Southern accent. She also convinced him to attach a flagpole to his house, which as of recently, now sports both Old Glory and the Texas flag.

...and a little child will lead them... -- Isaiah 11:6
When he removes that stupid COEXIST bumper sticker from his clown car, we know we're on our way toward a conversion!
30 posted on 06/01/2013 5:44:16 PM PDT by re_nortex
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To: stinkerpot65

“Slavery was evil. Buying and selling human beings like cattle was evil. The Confederacy was evil.”

So you share those feelings of hatred of the South with those States in the North that held slaves at the time of the War of Northern Aggression, or are you just a liberal bigot?


31 posted on 06/01/2013 5:46:19 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: stinkerpot65

“Slavery was evil. Buying and selling human beings like cattle was evil. The Confederacy was evil.

Enslaving human beings, be it Marxism, Nazism, Islam, or the Confederacy is evil.”

Since you think slavery is evil I guess you are also hating on black people since it was a black man named Anthony Johnson that created the first black slave in 1654, another black man named John Casor. That’s right, the colonies had no slaves until the blacks created them.


32 posted on 06/01/2013 5:51:01 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: re_nortex
I'm from California, but unlike your neighbor from New Hampshire, I love Texas and its people. During a sojourn in Fort Worth about a month ago, I visited the Texas Civil War Museum. You ought to invite your friend to go there and see a perspective on the War that he won't get up north.
33 posted on 06/01/2013 6:00:38 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Lorianne

looks like the Chess Pie my Grndma used to make


34 posted on 06/01/2013 6:07:18 PM PDT by digger48
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To: cripplecreek
Sam Houston is another. He loved his south but desired an option other than war.

A big difference was that Houston opposed secession of Texas, while Davis only opposed secession in '45 when the Massachusetts legislature voted for secession over Texas statehood.

35 posted on 06/01/2013 6:07:53 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: BigReb555

My grandfather gggf ggggf all have the first and middle name Jefferson Davis.


36 posted on 06/01/2013 6:07:55 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: CodeToad

No argument there. Treating human beings like cattle is evil no matter who does it. Including, no doubt, some of my ancestors.

Period.


37 posted on 06/01/2013 6:57:00 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Reagan Man
>>Jefferson Davis was/is a traitor.
Ditto, Robert E. Lee!<<

Gee wizz...how profound your statement.

Pretty sure you'd have donned a blue uniform.

38 posted on 06/01/2013 7:11:23 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: stinkerpot65
Both sides of my family owned plantations, one in Louisiana, the other in Tennessee. After the war, the colored folks did not want to leave the plantation. It was there home. This is where they worked, raised their children.

We have endearing stories of black mammies who cared for the children, sang them songs before bedtime and the like.

All the horror stories of evil plantation owners were broad brushed to include all those who did not mistreat the negro. For heaven's sake, there is so much misinformation regarding this period.

Even after the slaves received emancipation, states such as Delaware STILL held slaves...I'm pretty sure Delaware aligned with the North folks.

On a different note, history books have been scrubbed and rewritten to include the progressive perversion of events.

Not many folks were taught that even Lincoln did not believe the negro could assimilate into the American society. Lincoln, all the way back when in the senate pushed for a colonization of the negro back to Africa and to the Caribbean.

So, for all those people who thought Lincoln was such a hero to the black man should spend a lil time reading history. Lincoln by today's standards would have been a white racist bigotted honky looking to purge America.

I dunno, juss sayin y'all.

39 posted on 06/01/2013 7:31:32 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: rovenstinez

“all we ask is to be let alone”

...so we can keep people in bondage... :\

Not a fellow I would venerate.


40 posted on 06/01/2013 8:15:05 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: servantboy777
Your puerile comments reveal in you a shallow understanding of the Confederacy and her history. Do some homework.

For your homework I would assign the secession proclamations from the various States.

Mississippi:

A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union.

In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery [ed note: that's gonna be tough to duck, ain't it?!]-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization.

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Georgia:

The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.

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South Carolina:

... But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution.

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Now, I would also argue that Lincoln did not provoke the war by maintaining U.S. forts in the seceding States because he wanted to end slavery. Had the South simply ignored these edifices and not allowed themselves to be maneuvered into firing the first shot who knows how history turns out.

Lincoln declared in his inaugural address that he intended to collect taxes (maintaining tariffs that were economically beneficial to the North and harmful to the South), and further declared support for the original 13th amendment, which would have forbade the Federal government from outlawing slavery. But to argue that the South didn't secede because they wanted to keep people in bondage and considered the Federal government inimical to this desire is simply contrary to the facts, outlined above in their declared reasoning for secession.

41 posted on 06/01/2013 8:36:40 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: CodeToad
Since you think slavery is evil I guess you are also hating on black people

Why can't you hate a pro-slavery person without hating an entire race of people? Is the broad brush the only one you can paint with?

That’s right, the colonies had no slaves until the blacks created them.

Was it blacks on the court that decided Johnson vs Parker? The colonies had indentured servants, until the courts decided that a black man couldn't have the rights of an Englishman, and could be held as a servant for life.

42 posted on 06/01/2013 9:07:51 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3

Note in South Carolina declaration the complaint the non slave holding states are “disregarding thier obligation” ...so what were these obligation?


43 posted on 06/01/2013 9:24:42 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Gunslingr3

You will never win your arguments here.

They will make points of circular logic, and point out that the war was about States rights—of course don’t ask them which rights the south was looking to maintain. Here’s a clue—it was slavery.

Many of the folks from the south have a distorted view of the confederacy. They started the war, they lost the war, and they had to give up their slaves.

I can understand generations of hatred because of being invaded and defeated.

I cannot understand why they cannot agree that the institution of slavery—in any form—at any time is immoral, and fundamentally wrong. Whether north, south, black, white, Arab or otherwise.

Individual liberty is a right—a natural right—and there is no justification for it. It was always wrong. And it always will be wrong.


44 posted on 06/01/2013 9:53:08 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: tophat9000
Note in South Carolina declaration the complaint the non slave holding states are “disregarding thier obligation” ...so what were these obligation?

To treat human beings like property and return them to their slave masters in South Carolina if they escaped to a Northern State. Did you not know this?

45 posted on 06/01/2013 10:14:38 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: max americana

Who’s going to be the slaves?


46 posted on 06/01/2013 10:48:19 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Iron Munro

How many slaves did Jeff Davis free?


47 posted on 06/01/2013 10:49:20 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Gunslingr3
Yes I did it was rhetorical and goes the point the south was not about “States rights vs the fed”..they wanted the federal government intervention in the non slave states ..and Lincoln was NOT going to do it..

It also got to the point even if the union was dissolved peaceably..the issue on slave escaping to the north would remain...the south complaints woulds remain and by the south's own logic the south would be compelled wage war on the north for harboring there “stolen property”...

No matter if the north let the south go..the issue remained the same the south wanted intervention in the north to get their slaves back..if not the south would see this as violating their sovereign rights as a nation and war would still come

48 posted on 06/01/2013 10:50:42 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: stinkerpot65

AMEN!


49 posted on 06/01/2013 10:51:07 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: CodeToad

Blacks ‘’created’’ slaves? Wow dude, your history certainly is ..ah, interesting, that’s for sure.


50 posted on 06/01/2013 10:54:56 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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