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Discovery channel's storm chaser Tim Samaras killed in El Reno tornado
Examiner ^ | 6/2/13 | SHEILA CARROLL

Posted on 06/02/2013 9:29:32 AM PDT by jimbo123

Storm chaser, Tim Samaras, his son Paul and crew member, Carl Young were killed Friday in a tornado that ripped through El Reno, Oklahoma.

Samaras followed storms for over 30 years. His fascination with tornadoes began when he was about six years old and saw the tornado in The Wizard of Oz. Samaras once stated, “My passion for storm chasing has always been driven by the beautiful and powerful storms displayed in the heartland each spring."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: carlyoung; obituary; paulsamaras; samaras; stormchaser; stormchasers; timsamaras; tornadoes; weather
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1 posted on 06/02/2013 9:29:32 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

“Don’t fool with Mother Nature”


2 posted on 06/02/2013 9:31:55 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: jimbo123

Were they in that demolished TWISTEX vehicle they showed on the news Friday night? I thought Shep had said they escaped with minor injuries. Guess not. Dangerous work.


3 posted on 06/02/2013 9:32:22 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: jimbo123

Samaras was my favorite chaser. He wasn’t in it for the fame and never usually tried to get closer than close.

One of the met boards I frequent seems to think he was at a ‘safe’ distance and then the storm took a 90deg turn and they lost control of their vehicle trying to get away.


4 posted on 06/02/2013 9:32:31 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: jimbo123

At least he died doing what he loved best...


5 posted on 06/02/2013 9:32:43 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: jimbo123

And another group of three (grad students) came damn close.


6 posted on 06/02/2013 9:33:20 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: jimbo123

Sad. Very Sad.


7 posted on 06/02/2013 9:33:25 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: jimbo123

Ina twister of fate...


8 posted on 06/02/2013 9:33:53 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: jimbo123

RIP.


9 posted on 06/02/2013 9:34:08 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: jimbo123
I've done a lot of storm SPOTTING from cover (not concealment), and reported as required on a RACES net, but CHASING just seemed like an invite to a lot of hurt.

Sorry the guy and his son didn't make it. I choose not to engage in risky behavior unless it's really required.

/johnny

10 posted on 06/02/2013 9:35:04 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jimbo123
A very dangerous profession.

This man and his son were VERY experienced...and yet, they were unable to avoid death.

These tornadoes are fast and unpredictable while on the ground...and deadly. If you are in their path, and the road you are on does not give you a chance to get out of the way...they will run you down. The best thing is to seek a place of shelter that is underground, with a strong structure around you. If it is a large enough tornadoe, and strong enough, hiding under a bridge for example, will not save you, even if your place of refuge is below ground there. Winds too strong...forces too strong...too much deadly debris in the air.

No, you have to either leave soon enough, or have a strong place below ground with a strong door designed for this to be sure of surviving.

God rest the souls of these men, and comfort their families. These crews have brought us some of the most unbelievable images of these storms at deadly peril to their life. As this stroy illustrates.

11 posted on 06/02/2013 9:36:53 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: jimbo123

I have worked for two storm chasers.

These guys are really pretty smart, but sometimes they are too smart by half.

Gotta get to the action.
A guy one his own.. get in.. get out..

RIP brother.


12 posted on 06/02/2013 9:37:18 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Qwackertoo
The tossed vehicle was The Weather Channel's crew lead by Mike Bettis. Tim Samaras worked for The Discovery Channel.
13 posted on 06/02/2013 9:37:22 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: All

Flashback video of Samaras:

http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/environment/environment-natural-disasters/tornadoes/tornado-samaras/


14 posted on 06/02/2013 9:37:56 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: TADSLOS
“Don’t fool with Mother Nature”

He’s the God of Creation - not a Wiccan “Mother Nature”

15 posted on 06/02/2013 9:38:39 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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These guys got steel grapes.

http://www.thestormshop.com/


16 posted on 06/02/2013 9:38:47 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Black Agnes

Nature always has the final word.


17 posted on 06/02/2013 9:39:24 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jeff Head

This was the guy who was always dropping probes in the path of the storms to get various types of data. He was more than a thrillseeker.


18 posted on 06/02/2013 9:40:27 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

What’s the point of chasing storms? What’s the advantage of being in hsrm’s way as opposed to a safer distance?


19 posted on 06/02/2013 9:40:51 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: jimbo123

Problem is “If you screw with the bull, you get the horns!” Something’s are better left alone. Perhaps you want to pet the Polar bears? Or feed the Sharks? Break into the Leopards/lions den (like the guys did in San Diego). Here’s a good one: Try to file a Non-Profit status with the IRS with the word “Patriot” in your name!!


20 posted on 06/02/2013 9:41:17 AM PDT by timlilje
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To: Qwackertoo

Two separate incidents. The demolished vehicle shown on the Weather Channel Friday night was Weather Channel meteorologist Mike Bettes and his crew. They have minor injuries. This is the first I have heard about Samaris.
Reed Timmer’s Dominator was also damaged Friday night as was Sean Casey’s TIV.


21 posted on 06/02/2013 9:41:38 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: jimbo123

I’ve noticed with the increase of net videos and tv shows on this subject that they’ve been getting a lot closer to the actual storms than they used to. It used to seem like it was somewhat of a ‘safe’ thing to do. As they got closer and closer for better video this was inevitable.


22 posted on 06/02/2013 9:42:31 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: jimbo123
looks like he caught one, kinda like when a dog catches the car...
23 posted on 06/02/2013 9:42:55 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: jimbo123

I think Mayor Doomberg will outlaw storm chasing in NY.


24 posted on 06/02/2013 9:43:26 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: InvisibleChurch; All

Our Haunting Last Interview With Storm Chaser Samaras

Tim Samaras and his son died in Friday’s El Reno, Oklahoma tornado.

What are you trying to figure out about tornadoes?

We still don’t know why some thunderstorms create tornadoes while others don’t. We’re trying to collect as many observations as possible, both from outside and from the inside [of tornadoes].

This tells us several things. If we understand the [storm’s] thermodynamic profile—what’s the temperature, what’s the humidity like, how cool is the air outside of the tornado—these are clues that help us to measure a thunderstorm that may produce a tornado.

If we better understood some of the final mechanisms for tornado genesis, our forecasting will be greatly improved.

We’re also trying to address tornado dynamics—how powerful the winds are near the surface—which will help us address some of the engineering issues with home building.

Maybe there are some simple things we can do to a house that would help it withstand a [lower-intensity] tornado.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/06/130602-tim-samaras-dead-storm-chaser-tornadoes-last-interview-weather/


25 posted on 06/02/2013 9:44:04 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Cowboy Bob

People always say that sort of thing and then I think, “Yes, but most likely they died in absolute terror.” Whatever enjoyment they had chasing storms was pushed out of their rapidly-running-out-lives by sheer terror.

Suddenly, dying in bed of old age doesn’t seem so bad.


26 posted on 06/02/2013 9:44:47 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Samaras was on a Discovery Channel show that ended two years ago. He worked for himself.


27 posted on 06/02/2013 9:44:48 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Monty22002; All

Our Haunting Last Interview With Storm Chaser Samaras

How many people are out there chasing storms?

There’s lots and lots of storm chasers out there, but you can probably count on one hand the number of people who go out into the field and collect data from tornadoes.

We run into [storm chasers] all the time. On a big tornado day in Oklahoma, you can have hundreds of storm chasers lined up down the road.

Oklahoma is considered the mecca of storm chasing. We know ahead of time when we chase in Oklahoma, there’s going to be a traffic jam.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/06/130602-tim-samaras-dead-storm-chaser-tornadoes-last-interview-weather/


28 posted on 06/02/2013 9:46:50 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

IMHO, he was a dedicated meterologist/scientist, trying to collect data to better improve our knowledge of these storms. He was doing good...albeit very dangerous, work.


29 posted on 06/02/2013 9:47:09 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: InvisibleChurch

Well The folks I know do it because they are adventurous and have scientific minds AND there 8i money to be made.

I got hit with a mesocylone, it ripped the wall off a steel building like peeling a sardine can open, it sucked up 3 remote buildings, and when I woke up at 4 AM I saw the video on the weather channel LOL

The Boss had already filmed the damage and sold the film LOL


30 posted on 06/02/2013 9:48:30 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

My wife and I are certified Stormwatchers. But I tell people we took the class so we would know when to run away, not so we could chase the damned things.


31 posted on 06/02/2013 9:49:54 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: jimbo123

They were probably so terrified. I’m sorry they had to suffer that. God bless them.


32 posted on 06/02/2013 9:50:03 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: jimbo123

Hundreds of dedicated “meteorologists/scientists” collecting valuable data out there? What would we do without them?!


33 posted on 06/02/2013 9:50:12 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Jeff Head

It’s not really all that dangerous a “profession” - though for most it’s a “hobby.”

It’s been going on for 40 years and these would be the first chasers to EVER be killed by an actual tornado (though it seems unclear how exactly they were killed) - a few chasers have died in traffic accidents.

It’s not nearly as dangerous as Alaskan crab fishing. Or climbing Mont Everest.

And really the movement of tornadoes are pretty predictable 99% of the time - look at the map of most tornado outbreaks, and they’re a bunch of straight, parallel lines, usually SW to NE; there’s a characteristic storm motion on any given day driven by upper level winds that changes quite slowly.

This movement predictability is what allows chasing to be pretty safe for the most part.

Last Friday was an exception -the El Reno tornado had a very erratic U-shaped path, and also had suddenly forming satellite tornadoes.


34 posted on 06/02/2013 9:52:49 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: jimbo123

The only comment (in Feb) for the link. Crazy...

Omg.. Wow. Brave, well it’s your life... goodluck with that XDD


35 posted on 06/02/2013 9:53:41 AM PDT by BushCountry (What does it matter now!!)
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To: jimbo123

The source doesn’t give much information, but I recall one vehicle of chasers were relaying live reports and said they were caught up in the massive traffic jam in the I-40/I-35 area.

Some of those chasers are alone and some are in small groups to 2 or more.

Per some news cast 9 people were killed because they were in their vehicles in that same area.

One of the reporters/chasers for The Weather Channel was injured the night before, IIRC, in the Moore tornado.


36 posted on 06/02/2013 9:54:01 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Wiser now

Lord knows what happened, but I am guessing this fellow was egress restricted.

I had Two drop on each side of Tx FM 6 coming into Caddo Mills Tx.

I was about to shit. The sky turned green,

There was so side road anywhere to go to.
Then just like they touched down, Voom! They where gone.

Quite an adrenaline rush.
Wish I had, had a camera.


37 posted on 06/02/2013 9:55:03 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: jimbo123

I’ve experienced earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, hurricane-force winds flying in a small plane over water, wildland fires, floods, and mountainside thunderstorms.

That being said, tornados absolutely terrify me and I will not live in an area where they are common.


38 posted on 06/02/2013 9:55:21 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Lurker
Pretty much the same thing here.

It's also a good thing to do for the local neighborhood. Neighbors call or stop by to ask if the weather gets iffy here.

The night that Grandbury got whacked, I told them I was putting on my pants and boots, and everyone scurried home to their secure spot.

Civilian storm spotters (trained and NWS certified, and radio operators) are a benefit to the community.

/johnny

39 posted on 06/02/2013 9:56:10 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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regress


40 posted on 06/02/2013 9:56:21 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Monty22002

That huge weather channel logo on the wrecked vehicle looked pretty tacky to me. I guess these tragic events are now just a great “branding” opportunity for these businesses.


41 posted on 06/02/2013 9:56:58 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: jimbo123
The difference between a spotter and a chaser is 50 IQ points. ;)

Bet my insurance is cheaper...

/johnny

42 posted on 06/02/2013 9:57:23 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

God Bless those that wade into that mess.


43 posted on 06/02/2013 9:57:29 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: jimbo123

A jaywalker eventually gets hit by the car.


44 posted on 06/02/2013 9:58:25 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Strategerist
Well, I grwew up in tornado alley, in North Central TExs on a ranch. I have seen anumber of tornadoes on the ground in rural areas.

Although the overal storm cells themselves, and the overall movement of the tornadoes are indeed from SW to NE, once on the ground, tornadoes move eradicately...varrying that general SW to NE movement by zig zaggibng around, hopping up into the air and coming back down. A dog leg of 1/4 mile is not all that uncommon, though those doglegs are rarely an extreme movement. But if you are in the path, thinking you are going to be 1000 ft away as it passes, a quarter mile can be the difference.

My point is simple. It was tragic...but it is dangerous. This man was extremely experienced, and I doubt he did anything rash or wrong...things just took a terrible turn for him and those with him.

45 posted on 06/02/2013 9:59:59 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: mylife
I'd rather be one that watches from a secure place and helps with comms after the event.

God bless the ones that rush into where angels fear to tread. I won't do that on storms. Not my calling.

/johnny

46 posted on 06/02/2013 10:00:20 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jimbo123

Wifey and I joke on road trips, that if we see storm chasers, we’re gonna reverse course quicklike.


47 posted on 06/02/2013 10:00:58 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Piffle....)
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To: jimbo123
A dog that chases cars will eventually catch one.
48 posted on 06/02/2013 10:02:30 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: jimbo123
How many people are out there chasing storms?

I have an html weather radar map I 'borrowed' from a tv station website. Whenever a big storm breaks out, it pops up emblems representing chasers and spotters who are or have the capability to stream live video. When big storms start, there are 1 or 2 emblems. As the storms continue, there may be half a dozen or more emblems.

Many of those are local area spotters who volunteer to watch approaching weather for signs of heavy winds, hail, and tornadoes. Some are actual chasers who chase to collect data.
49 posted on 06/02/2013 10:02:38 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: jimbo123

Fine Samaras video explaining his vehicle and why he chased these monsters. Sounds like he was pretty careful. He must have been stuck with no way out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YO1RA-tkWI&list=PL44B8F0D5813C55A1


50 posted on 06/02/2013 10:03:35 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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