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Death toll in Oklahoma rises to 16; hunt for 6 missing continues
CNN ^ | June 3, 2013 | Catherine E. Shoichet, Holly Yan and Marlena Baldacci

Posted on 06/03/2013 1:09:45 AM PDT by Zakeet

Oklahoma had barely started clearing the rubble from a monstrous tornado two weeks ago when another rash of twisters plowed through this ill-fated swath of Tornado Alley.

At least 16 people are dead across the state after a vicious storm tore through the area Friday evening, Oklahoma City Fire Chief Keith Bryant said Monday morning.

That number may continue to rise.

Authorities will resume their search Monday for six people still missing, including four who sought shelter in storm drains, Bryant said.

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A trio of storm chasers who devoted their lives to hunting powerful storms died in the middle of a pursuit.

Tim Samaras, his son Paul Samaras and Carl Young were killed Friday while chasing a tornado in El Reno, Oklahoma, relatives told CNN on Sunday. Their work tracking tornadoes was featured on the former Discovery Channel show "Storm Chasers."

At the intersection where authorities believe the men were killed, crews hauled away a mangled white truck that had been crushed like a tin can. The metal frame of their storm-chasing vehicle was twisted almost beyond recognition.

"They all unfortunately passed away but doing what they loved," Jim Samaras wrote in a statement posted on his brother's Facebook page.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: naturaldisaster; oklahoma; tornado

The mangled white truck that had been crushed like a tin can ... twisted almost beyond recognition.

1 posted on 06/03/2013 1:09:45 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Wow, was it picked up and dropped? The whole front end is gone.


2 posted on 06/03/2013 1:18:06 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Zakeet
That doesn't look like a truck - note the wheels - I think it is this car


3 posted on 06/03/2013 1:21:17 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Zakeet
Storm Chaser Tim Samaras' final interview:
4 posted on 06/03/2013 1:22:32 AM PDT by goron (If this be treason, make the most of it! - Patrick Henry)
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To: F15Eagle

I think you’re right.


5 posted on 06/03/2013 2:04:07 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

You can also see the rectangular hole in the roof for the sunroof. Hard to tell from the photo but it looks like it might have a sunroof there. Those wheels are a definite match.

The must have been rolled multiple times end-over-end or lifted in the air, where the car would drop nose-first due to the weight of the engine.

Yikes, either way.


6 posted on 06/03/2013 2:09:57 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

It looks like a definite match to me. Wheels, door handles, even the shape of the crumpled window frames. They didn’t have a chance.


7 posted on 06/03/2013 2:15:29 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Nope, no chance at all. They must have gotten picked up.

It’s like crossing a flooded street. The forces are just too powerful. Deceptive, in fact.

When a tornado can lower the air pressure so much that a house explodes from pressurization, you know you’ve got a monster.

I lived in Oklahoma several years as a kid. You could feel some of them as if they were evil. Probably doesn’t make much sense but I thought they captured that feeling in “Twister” or whatever that movie was.

From the closing credits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP6nKTu6TGY


8 posted on 06/03/2013 2:19:57 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

I was stationed at McConnell AFB in Wichita Kansas in early 70’s. My job required going to 18 Titan II missile sites on a regular basis. The weather on the plains can change rapidly. I live in central Alabama. We are no strangers to twisters either. Nature requires a lot of respect. I suspect the chasers got hemmed in by traffic due to the time of day all this hit. They ran out of options. Were they on I40 or I35? I know both of those roads well, at least as they existed up until May 1976 when my USAF service was over.


9 posted on 06/03/2013 2:38:34 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Zakeet

Some good news on the Moore tornado;

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/weather/weather_news/death-count-lowered—to-23-in-moore-tornado-national-weather-service-report-says


10 posted on 06/03/2013 2:43:47 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I’ve been through El Reno but only as a kid many, many years ago. Dunno.

Glad you weren’t at that one Titan II facility.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHMh5xptMok


11 posted on 06/03/2013 2:45:36 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle
When a tornado can lower the air pressure so much that a house explodes from pressurization

Turns out this never happens. Wind picks up the roof, tears it off, and then the walls fall down.

Unfortunately this was believed to happen by scientists and the worthless advice to open the windows in your house if a tornado was coming was promulgated by the NWS for decades. If anything open windows contribute to the wind getting in and lifting the roof off.

12 posted on 06/03/2013 2:52:56 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: F15Eagle

I maintained the primary alert communications equipment. Had no desire to be anywhere near the missile itself. Crew module is where our gear was. Gotta go get ready for work. Later.


13 posted on 06/03/2013 3:03:49 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Zakeet

I used to watch Storm Chasers religiously.
Tim was very cautious, to the point some of his compadres were pi@@ed at him for staying too far away from the action.

He used to drive an SUV and store his instrument packages in a compartment in the back.
Surprised to see him driving a small car.

I watched part of the live broadcast the other night. The tornado was moving in an easterly direction and when it passed below Reno it suddenly took a left turn to a more n,easterly track.May have been what caught him.


14 posted on 06/03/2013 3:36:55 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Strategerist
In Indiana about 1995, we were in what they eventually called a straight-line wind event. I heard the back screen door start to slam repeatedly. Bob would bang it a couple of times to get the flies off (dairy farm), so I went to that door to see what was going on. The wind was banging it but all of a sudden Bob ran into the house. We just stood there looking at each other for a second and then the room began to fill up with air, starting at our feet and quickly traveling toward our heads. We both made a mad dash to the basement. The wind then began to rattle the large metal coal door on the side of the basement. All the lights went out. A few seconds later it was all over.

A door that we had never been able to open was left open, the chimney was smashed as was a window in the upstairs. Barn roof one third gone, doors on the milk house gone, 3 of the four trees on that side of the house were badly damaged, one clipped off at the ground and tossed over the house and ended up in the other driveway.

I was watching the weather on TV but it was wireless and had been temporarily out of service. Just when I needed it.

15 posted on 06/03/2013 4:56:56 AM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is nigh.)
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To: Vinnie

I always assumed these folks tried to chase from behind the tornado so they wouldn’t get caught by a sudden direction change (unless it did a 180 which I assume is rare).

Perhaps whatever experiments or readings they were taking required them to be somewhat ahead of it. Or maybe that’s just how the angle worked out when they intercepted it.

The track I saw on the news showed it south of the road (I40?) heading east, then turned sharply north, then east again such that it was directly tracking over the road. I assume these folks were ahead and north of it on that road before it altered course and then they found them selves directly in front of it and couldn’t out run it for whatever reason.

Really ashame to lose these researchers.


16 posted on 06/03/2013 6:51:48 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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I was watching this too and I heard the reporter say there was more than one tornado. People could be running from one tornado and be running toward another one. Also they were rain wrapped so you couldn't see the tornado.

Very sad to lose these people.

17 posted on 06/03/2013 7:01:07 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Strategerist

Ahh...didn’t know that


18 posted on 06/03/2013 8:40:46 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: barefoot_hiker
Perhaps whatever experiments or readings they were taking required them to be somewhat ahead of it.

Samaras had developed an instrument package, a probe, that he tried to set in the path of tornados. Here's a site that has pics of his vehicle (although he apparently wasn't in this one when he was killed) and probes.

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/storm-chasers/photos/2010-twistex-probe-pictures.htm

If I lived out on the plains I'd probably do a little chasing. At least for some photographs. Here in NC no way.

19 posted on 06/03/2013 9:22:45 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/storm-chasers/photos/2010-twistex-probe-pictures.htm


20 posted on 06/03/2013 9:23:26 AM PDT by Vinnie
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