Skip to comments.John Kerry Praises New UN Gun Treaty – Could Lead to National Registry
Posted on 06/03/2013 12:40:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Secretary of State John Kerry welcomed the opening of Arms Trade Treaty for signature today.
The Obama administration plans on signing the treaty as soon as the process of conforming the official translations is completed satisfactorily.
The United Nations passed sweeping legislation in April that will regulate the international arms trade and could lead to a national gun registry in the United States.
No wonder Democrats love it!
In March the pro-Second Amendment Senate Bill 139 passed 53-46. 46 Democratic Senators voted against the bill which would: Uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.
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No worries, it’s just that 2 time gigolo Kerry.
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Must be ratified. It is not ratified
2/3 vote needed to ratify.
Even if ratified, the notion that a treaty overrides the Constitution is just plain untrue.
2A is unaffected by a treaty.
Further, no treaty does anything without enabling legislation, and that requires the House to get involved.
I am sure someone, somewhere, at some time, has been killed by ketchup.
Time for a national registry....
They can pass all the frakking treaties they want. I am not bound by anything that is an abridgement of my natural rights.
you mean the same way the state department ordered the 3d printer designer to stop all distribution of PLANS due to an arms TREATY?
They don't. It's just like how Clinton signed the Kyoto global warming treaty but the Senate went on to reject it 98-0. Budda's signature was meaningless.
It's my understanding that President's in the past have said they would abide by the terms of treaties that have been signed and not ratified. However, this is pretty much the President just saying they will direct executive branch agencies to abide by the terms of their own treaty as long as it doesn't conflict with existing law. It has no legal standing. So Obama couldn't, say, direct an agency to create a national registry and then use this unratified treaty as a defense in court.
And then there’s the whole ‘getting the people to comply’ problem.
Did the 3d printer guy fight it in court? Any agency can order anybody to do anything, but if challenged in court they must show where they get the authority to enforce the order.
Anyway, I don’t think the case you mention would involve 2A so much as 1A.
And one of the biggest gun grabbers in the Senate assumed room temperature today.
No, it's not. Pursuant to the government's 40 years of illegal adherence to the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, administrative agencies will be committed to not do anything to contravene the treaty, even with just a signature. It's "customary international law."
skerry is the penultimate Fool.
It's been done for over seventy years, Reid v. Covert notwithstanding.
Is THAT why the EPA went on to regulate carbon emissions without authorization! Who knew?
Daniel 7:7-8 King James Version (KJV)
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
Revelation 13:1 King James Version (KJV)
13 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Your statement is true, right up to the point of willingness to use force to keep it that way.
Since when has the law stopped this tyrant? He has utter contempt for the law if it gets in his way. Executive orders or out right ATF enforcement through policy changes. The tyrant king and his pack of henchman will turn far more nasty and brutal before this is over.
Now lets see, where is it... [uses laser to fix lone H2O and NaCl molecules] ah, there it is, a tear for that douchebag...
Yep, was scum of the scum.
The old bastard devoted his entire life to crime.....as a criminal.
A traitorous agenda in my opinion.
0bama is hardly incented to sign treaty that would outlaw arming his jihadi buddies in Syria.
Did these men die so we could be stripped of our God-given rights? HELL NO.
You have an example.
The Constitution says that the Constitution and treaties are the supreme law. Which by logic says that the Constitution outranks a treaty. Otherwise the President and 2/3 of the Senate could amend the Constitution without involving the House or States.
DOA in House. Good point. Plus... it can be adjudicated.
The Navy SEALs are a small part of the Special Operations community. There are far more Army Green Berets, Force Recon Marines, Army Rangers, Air Force Pararescue and others.
Was the high point of my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let them do their evil... it will be their eventual undoing... even hitler looked impervious at one point.
Was the high point of my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That scum isn’t up to no good now.
You Rang ?
No doubt that a national registry would save lives. Don’t take this as a government takeover of a free nation, THAT is just VRWC talk! It’s been proved time and time again that government confiscation of human freedoms saves lives and if just one life can be saved...
they folded. (after 100k downloaded it first)
And it doesn’t matter that the Senate will never ratify the treaty.
The Migratory Bird Treaty was never ratified, but we enforce that.
UN Agenda 21 was never ratified after Herbert GW “Daddy” Bush signed it, but it is being implimented nation wide.
This will be implemented to, without any Senate retification.
It has no force of law without the Senate ratifying it and no matter what anyone says... that is the truth. I do not think that they have nearly enough votes to pass it in the Senate.
does the house have to vote also?
Could lead to massive non-compliance!
I'm not sure what your point is. The EPA action was not enabled in any way by the Kyoto accords.
>>And then theres the whole getting the people to comply problem.
They need to sign the damn thing and then try to enact it through an EO or bureaucratic regulation, so we can get this rebellion thing going before I get too old.
I am more concern with that pos treaty LOST passing the senate. Thing just will not die.
The shooting would start before the court heard the case.
House does not vote on treaties.
Though enabling legislation requires their agreement.
Personally I don’t care if lurch approves and senators sign...
Those folks that signed the Declaration will lead me from History to Action. lurch be damned