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John Kerry Praises New UN Gun Treaty Could Lead to National Registry
Gateway Pundit ^ | June 3, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 06/03/2013 12:40:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Secretary of State John Kerry welcomed the opening of Arms Trade Treaty for signature today.

The Obama administration plans on signing the treaty “as soon as the process of conforming the official translations is completed satisfactorily.”

The United Nations passed sweeping legislation in April that will regulate the international arms trade and could lead to a national gun registry in the United States.

No wonder Democrats love it!

There’s more… In March the pro-Second Amendment Senate Bill 139 passed 53-46. 46 Democratic Senators voted against the bill which would: “Uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.”

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How do they get this without the Senate? Buehler? Buehler?
1 posted on 06/03/2013 12:40:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No worries, it’s just that 2 time gigolo Kerry.


2 posted on 06/03/2013 12:42:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They (the president) can sign wall paper for all I care. Without senate confirmation, the signature is meaningless.
3 posted on 06/03/2013 12:42:36 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(D)istrict of (C)riminals


4 posted on 06/03/2013 12:42:55 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Inbred, pedophile-worshipping, misogynists (mozlums) offend me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It has no force of law without the Senate ratifying it and no matter what anyone says... that is the truth. I do not think that they have nearly enough votes to pass it in the Senate.

LLS

5 posted on 06/03/2013 12:43:51 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Must be ratified. It is not ratified


6 posted on 06/03/2013 12:47:02 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

2/3 vote needed to ratify.

Even if ratified, the notion that a treaty overrides the Constitution is just plain untrue.

2A is unaffected by a treaty.


7 posted on 06/03/2013 12:47:11 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: LibLieSlayer

Further, no treaty does anything without enabling legislation, and that requires the House to get involved.


8 posted on 06/03/2013 12:47:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am sure someone, somewhere, at some time, has been killed by ketchup.

Time for a national registry....


9 posted on 06/03/2013 12:47:43 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They can pass all the frakking treaties they want. I am not bound by anything that is an abridgement of my natural rights.


10 posted on 06/03/2013 12:47:49 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Sherman Logan

you mean the same way the state department ordered the 3d printer designer to stop all distribution of PLANS due to an arms TREATY?


11 posted on 06/03/2013 12:48:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sherman Logan

Absolutely!

LLS


12 posted on 06/03/2013 12:48:36 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I swear, it often seems as if the left in this country wants us to water the Tree of Liberty.
13 posted on 06/03/2013 12:49:15 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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"How do they get this without the Senate? Buehler? Buehler?"

They don't. It's just like how Clinton signed the Kyoto global warming treaty but the Senate went on to reject it 98-0. Budda's signature was meaningless.

14 posted on 06/03/2013 12:51:00 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
They (the president) can sign wall paper for all I care. Without senate confirmation, the signature is meaningless.

It's my understanding that President's in the past have said they would abide by the terms of treaties that have been signed and not ratified. However, this is pretty much the President just saying they will direct executive branch agencies to abide by the terms of their own treaty as long as it doesn't conflict with existing law. It has no legal standing. So Obama couldn't, say, direct an agency to create a national registry and then use this unratified treaty as a defense in court.

15 posted on 06/03/2013 12:52:35 PM PDT by apillar
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And then there’s the whole ‘getting the people to comply’ problem.


16 posted on 06/03/2013 12:54:22 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: longtermmemmory

Did the 3d printer guy fight it in court? Any agency can order anybody to do anything, but if challenged in court they must show where they get the authority to enforce the order.

Anyway, I don’t think the case you mention would involve 2A so much as 1A.


17 posted on 06/03/2013 12:54:47 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: LibLieSlayer

And one of the biggest gun grabbers in the Senate assumed room temperature today.


18 posted on 06/03/2013 12:56:34 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Without senate confirmation, the signature is meaningless.

No, it's not. Pursuant to the government's 40 years of illegal adherence to the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, administrative agencies will be committed to not do anything to contravene the treaty, even with just a signature. It's "customary international law."

19 posted on 06/03/2013 12:59:22 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: MrB

skerry is the penultimate Fool.


20 posted on 06/03/2013 1:00:17 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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