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IRS:Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family [ Soon the Penalty will match that figure ]
cnsnews.com ^ | Jan 31 ,2013 Flash Back | cnsnews.com

Posted on 06/03/2013 3:27:43 PM PDT by NoLibZone

In a final regulation issued Wednesday, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) assumed that under Obamacare the cheapest health insurance plan available in 2016 for a family will cost $20,000 for the year.

Under Obamacare, Americans will be required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty to the IRS.

The IRS's assumption that the cheapest plan for a family will cost $20,000 per year is found in examples the IRS gives to help people understand how to calculate the penalty they will need to pay the government if they do not buy a mandated health plan.

The examples point to families of four and families of five, both of which the IRS expects in its assumptions to pay a minimum of $20,000 per year for a bronze plan.

“The annual national average bronze plan premium for a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 children) is $20,000,” the regulation says.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; civilwar2; communism; defundobamacare; healthsinsurance; irs; obamacare; obamacarepremiums; obammycares; youlie
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I fully predict that Civil Wat 2 begin when the first fines matching the costs of coverage are levied.

It shall be bloody.

1 posted on 06/03/2013 3:27:43 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Someone should put up a website that sells/provides insurance for liberals only.

With premiums inline with what they were before ZeroCare.


2 posted on 06/03/2013 3:32:17 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: NoLibZone

“I fully predict that Civil Wat 2 begin when the first fines matching the costs of coverage are levied.”

Why do you think we are seeing all the gun control legislation and the UN Small Arms Treaty. They know what is coming.


3 posted on 06/03/2013 3:32:41 PM PDT by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: NoLibZone

This will lead to further redistribution.


4 posted on 06/03/2013 3:35:00 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Zeneta

In the terms and conditions, (which nobody reads) they could explain that they will not debit your account or provide any coverage.

Other than that, make the site look legit.


5 posted on 06/03/2013 3:35:31 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: NoLibZone

Are they planning to push inflation that high so that $20,000 is nothing?


6 posted on 06/03/2013 3:36:05 PM PDT by she geek
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To: NoLibZone

Democrats’ New Argument: It’s A Good Thing That Obamacare Doubles Individual Insurance Premiums
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/06/03/democrats-new-argument-its-a-good-thing-that-obamacare-doubles-individual-health-insurance-premiums/?partner=yahootix

it’s OK, see ?


7 posted on 06/03/2013 3:37:04 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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Thanks, Chief Justice Roberts! Nice going, chump!


8 posted on 06/03/2013 3:37:30 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: NoLibZone
"IRS:Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family..."

.... And of course we all absolutely know that as the price of health care and insurance costs blows clear through the roof, the Dems are going to blame this high rising costs squarely on the Republicans!!! After all ... they really do understand the minds of the so called Low Information Voters.

..... I sincerely hope the GOP realizes this and actually have a planned strategic response to the accusation at the ready. Otherwise the Liberals just may have a major strongly growing and possibly a "Slam Dunk" devastating PR win on their side if they don't. The liberal response to this is pretty much a given and easily predicted. Question: Does the GOP ever look beyond the current and present with their strategies? I sure hope so for this countries sake.

9 posted on 06/03/2013 3:38:23 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: NoLibZone

It doesn’t have to be a war. Just capture and imprison the politic1ons responsible.


10 posted on 06/03/2013 3:39:41 PM PDT by Old Yeller
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To: NoLibZone

I WON’T PAY JACK SH!T TO THE IRS OR ANY OTHER EFFING GOVERNMENT AGENCY!

THEY CAN ALL KISS MY REBEL ASS!

YES I’M SCREAMING ON PURPOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F U B O !! F I R S !!


11 posted on 06/03/2013 3:39:44 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: NoLibZone
In a final regulation issued Wednesday, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) assumed that under Obamacare the cheapest health insurance plan available in 2016 for a family will cost $20,000 for the year.

Then 250 million+ people will be uninsured.

12 posted on 06/03/2013 3:42:52 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: NoLibZone

I disagree.

To many sheeple. They will just line up. Government will mandate “living wages” or offset those that can’t pay with welfare payments to make up the difference.

i don’t think there is anything they could do that would start a war.


13 posted on 06/03/2013 3:45:26 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: NoLibZone

$20K is not inconsistent with what I’ve heard for code DD reporting on W-2’s for family coverage. But that is for a good plan. Just how many bells and whistles were mandated for “bronze” level anyway? And $20K a year for a typical family? Who the heck uses that much health care in any given year?


14 posted on 06/03/2013 3:45:43 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: NoLibZone
...or pay a penalty to the IRS.

And my 'payment' will be a photo of my middle finger sent to the IRS and I will not care if get fined more or I go to jail and I know I will not be the only one who will do that. And after I take all my money out of my bank account so they can't put a lein on it, I assume next they will come after my house which is exactly why they want to take my guns as well.

15 posted on 06/03/2013 3:46:54 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Old Yeller
Just capture and imprison hang the politic1ons responsible.

Fixed it for you.

16 posted on 06/03/2013 3:47:01 PM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: R_Kangel
>"I sincerely hope the GOP realizes this and actually have a planned strategic response"

They do, however their response is, lay low, don't rock the boat, we have ours, and yours, sucks to be you.

The GOP is WORTHLESS FALSE HOPE!!

17 posted on 06/03/2013 3:47:01 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: NoLibZone
Everybody will be a Criminal, and the IRS will make sure of that!
Criminals cannot own guns, Gun Control!

No it's not theory. It's a fact!

18 posted on 06/03/2013 3:47:42 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: NoLibZone

Looking forward to it !


19 posted on 06/03/2013 3:48:53 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: All

Anyone know exactly what elements of Obamacare kick in in 2014 & 2016?


20 posted on 06/03/2013 3:48:56 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: unixfox
You said...
“I WON’T PAY JACK SH!T TO THE IRS OR ANY OTHER EFFING GOVERNMENT AGENCY!

THEY CAN ALL KISS MY REBEL ASS!

YES I’M SCREAMING ON PURPOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F U B O !! F I R S !!”

So what will you do? Go without insurance? Have all your assets seized? This is why a nation should never dabble in any collectivism. It leads to Tyranny

21 posted on 06/03/2013 3:49:24 PM PDT by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: Old Yeller

Imprison?? Not! HANG EM!


22 posted on 06/03/2013 3:50:03 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: unixfox

Exactly.


23 posted on 06/03/2013 3:50:23 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: All

Anyone know exactly what elements of Obamacare kick in in 2014 & 2016?


24 posted on 06/03/2013 3:50:55 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: NonValueAdded
And $20K a year for a typical family? Who the heck uses that much health care in any given year?

My wife did. Three days stay and surgery, $82,000.

25 posted on 06/03/2013 3:51:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Bronzewound

oops 2014 & 2015 is what I meant.


26 posted on 06/03/2013 3:51:22 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: NoLibZone

27 posted on 06/03/2013 3:54:14 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: NoLibZone

When I was a kid, westerns were the most popular TV shows and films. Often in the plots of these, the bad guys would shoot the stage coach driver and the stage coach would become a run-away.

Suddenly, the hero would climb up into the driver’s seat, and then jump on the backs of the horses and keep jumping toward the front pair of horses until he could reach down, grab the reins and bring the stage coach under control.

This country is a run-away, the Obamans are the bad guys, and we need a hero to grab the reins.


28 posted on 06/03/2013 3:54:38 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: NoLibZone

Don’t worry President Christie will fix it all. sarc / off


29 posted on 06/03/2013 3:57:01 PM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: LMAO

I don’t have insurance as it is so it won’t matter to me. I pay cash and have saved thousands over the years. Catastrophic insurance is all I need.

The can TRY to seize my assets but at this point I am willing to take up arms against these tyrants. I have drawn my line in the sand.

Like I said, THEY CAN KISS MY REBEL ASS!


30 posted on 06/03/2013 3:58:40 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: unixfox

You sir are a True American.


31 posted on 06/03/2013 4:01:10 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: NoLibZone

20K per family per year is unsustainable and unfordable for 90% of the country.

For many people that is nearly one full time job.

I guess paying for insurance for 47 million uninsured, including ten’s of millions of illegals is going to cost Americans a fortune.

I wonder if they will make the connection?


32 posted on 06/03/2013 4:03:18 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: NonValueAdded
One significant surgery and hospital stay would easily cost 20K.
33 posted on 06/03/2013 4:04:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

A competitive market would lop some zeros off that and make it affordable. The government-insurance cabal has destroyed market forces.


34 posted on 06/03/2013 4:07:22 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: cableguymn

I hear ya.

I am shocked the civil war hasn’t happened yet.

We are this nation’s weakest generation yet.


35 posted on 06/03/2013 4:08:23 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: clintonh8r
Thanks, Chief Justice Roberts! Nice going, chump!

I still believe that wither someone paid him off or someone has the goods on him, "play ball or else."
36 posted on 06/03/2013 4:08:31 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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To: NoLibZone

This is unreal that people are being forced to do this at the point of threat from one of the most powerful government agencies, the IRS. When it comes to confiscating people’s money, they don’t play. A convicted murderer can appeal for 20 years, but don’t dare to not give the government what it decrees you must give them!


37 posted on 06/03/2013 4:12:07 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: she geek

Can you think of any other way out of the debt?


38 posted on 06/03/2013 4:20:01 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Graybeard58

OK, so you “spent” 82 grand in one bad three-day period.

1. If you were paying cash, you probably could have gotten it for half that.

2. If you add all your medical expenses for any ten-year period including that episode, do they come anywhere $200,000?


39 posted on 06/03/2013 4:21:40 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Yes, but do you have one hospitalization every year? Would a family of 5 have one hospitalization every year? The purpose of insurance is to pool risk, not to soak the policyholders.


40 posted on 06/03/2013 4:53:28 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: clintonh8r

Once a Republican President, Senate and House are inplace, Roberts should be impeached. He has confessed that he does not have the judicial temperment required to be on the Supreme Court, because he admitted he was influenced by outside forces.


41 posted on 06/03/2013 4:56:19 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: andyk
This will lead to further redistribution.

BINGO! Imagine the total of the tax credits that are going to be issued to the 51% !!!

42 posted on 06/03/2013 5:04:22 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: NoLibZone
WaPo has a good article on what Obamacare will mean for different classes of taxpayers.
43 posted on 06/03/2013 5:06:41 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: NoLibZone

There will never be another civil war. There will be pockets of resistance, and they will be crushed.


44 posted on 06/03/2013 5:10:49 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: NoLibZone

$20,000 for two adults and 3 children? That is over half of my total household income. Their gonna have to come collect it, and come heavy, because I will not comply.


45 posted on 06/03/2013 5:23:17 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: rednek

Folks will simply not comply in regards to gun control. Both efforts will fail.


46 posted on 06/03/2013 5:24:42 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: deadrock

I am confident it will occur in my lifetime.


47 posted on 06/03/2013 5:25:19 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Noone can afford this

which was their goal


48 posted on 06/03/2013 5:25:57 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Nowhere Man

.....Or his wife and children were lets just say threatened.


49 posted on 06/03/2013 5:26:12 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: MaxMax

Yet their are ciminals that do stil have guns.


50 posted on 06/03/2013 5:28:05 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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