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Posted on 06/04/2013 5:00:23 AM PDT by relictele
Are they killing off the “hospitality industry” or just shifting it. In my “urban” area, they’ve killed the “local” sports bar/tavern type business; but every friday, every freeway outa town is packed. Anyone who can, gets out for the weekend. Nice place to “work” but no one wants to live here.
Oh Lord. Next you’ll be telling me that the government is spraying you from airplanes.
Mr Hyperbole is not always your friend.
With more and more people on their heels, the always-intented mission creep for a “DUI checkpoint” is now to catch broke drivers who’ve lost their license and steal their cars. Looks like that didn’t pan out either this time.
The ruling yesterday was for arrests for violent crimes, but yeah that will be defined down to loitering (”probably a lookout for a terrorist cell”) soon enough.
This is in fact a very Libertarian argument: how does the State reserve unto itself the authority to tell me whether I can travel or not? Did they take it upon themselves in 1780 to "allow" you to drive your own carriage from Philadelphia to Baltimore?
If it keeps illegals off the road, I’m for it. Most DUI checkpoints are a boon around here but they don’t do them often because it results in too many Mexican getting arrested
Re-read the story. Out of over 1000 people stopped “randomly” by the cops in Southern California, NO arrests were made.
Apparently, NONE were illegal aliens?
OK, so NONE were drunk drivers....
But NONE were wanted by the cops for warrants or bail offenses or driving without a license?
NONE carrying drugs?
NONE were smoking marijuana or already high on meth or speed?
Where did they do the traffic stop? At the exit of a nuclear power plant after shift change? Did they "catch-and-release" all of the illegal aliens they did find to appease Obama's constituencies in the DOJ and HSA?
Properly said, your post would read: “You don’t have the right to come into this country illegally.” Do you notice the period and end quotes?
So, that being the case, since you are willing to give up your right to free travel, for the stated purpose of catching/confining/deporting those who are in the country illegally, would you also be willing to allow the institution of random house checks/inspections by police too?
Think of it, all of the illegals, not to mention drug dealers, even the occasional kidnapper might be apprehended. And for the small price of the privacy of your home.
Yep. California is a lost state.
LLS
I swear all those crepe shops in Albany are all about the same.
Already done in NY, except from helicopters.
I find it under the 9th amendment, in the Bill of Rights:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
I have a right to go from point A to point B without being stopped and hassled by the police without cause. The 4th amendment was instituted to prohibit these kinds of 'fishing expeditions' by the government. You want a police state? Then please go somewhere else.
Once again, you guys blow the situation completely out of control. It’s like dealing with teenage girls. You rely completely on hysterical emotion to make your point instead of thinking rationally.
A checkpoint does not deny you the right to travel freely UNLESS you are breaking the law. I’ve been through plenty of them and never had a problem. Stopping at a DUI checkpoint is not the same as getting in a boxcar for a concentration camp or stormtroopers kicking in your door looking for Jews. Put a tampon in it, people.
In your world, the greatest threat to you is a DUI checkpoint. In my world, that is not the case. The greater threat is the drunk illegal. They cause accidents all the time and kill people here every year.
Welcome home, and thank you for your service
And you don’t have the right to stop and harass the citizenry without cause when they are merely going about their daily business. It doesn’t matter if they are driving or walking.
I bet you were pissed when West Germany absorbed East Germany and not vice-versa.
I am not convinced that Sitz and Martinez-Fuerte were correctly decided. Indeed, I rather doubt that the Framers of the Fourth Amendment would have considered "reasonable" a program of indiscriminate stops of individuals not suspected of wrongdoing.
--Justice Clarence Thomas, dissenting opinion, Indianapolis v. Edmond
By that logic it should be OK for any person or group to set up a checkpoint. So, for example, residents of a neighborhood could just stop everyone who drives through to see what they are up to. No problem with that right? You wouldn't mind waiting in line would you?
BFS! Forcing an entire road to stop without probable cause DENIES EVERYONE THE RIGHT TO TRAVEL FREELY. F all the statists that support such things.
Just last weekend I was driving on the Belt Pkwy here in NYC and they shut down the whole damn highway for a checkpoint! 3 lanes of highway crawling for a damn Nazi fishing expedition!
I did nothing wrong and lost an hour of my time so these idiots can collect revenue. In more civilized times, I would loudly complain at the stop.
However, today’s scumbag stormtroopers will plant drugs if you act “smart”. Even if you somehow prove it, the NYPD will let them walk: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095772/Cowboy-cop-Jason-Arbeeny-planted-crack-couples-car-seat-escapes-jail.html
Chilling. Did you follow that case closely? How could (did) some random “civilian” prove it was planted? That’s about as tough a case against “the blue wall” as I can imagine.
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