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The Muslim Civil War (Sunni vs Shiite)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | June 3, 2013 | BRET STEPHENS

Posted on 06/04/2013 5:55:50 AM PDT by george76

Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the prominent Sunni cleric, said Friday that Hezbollah and Iran are "more infidel than Jews and Christians." Coming from the guy who once lauded Hitler for exacting "divine punishment" on the Jews, that really is saying something.

That the war in Syria is sectarian was obvious almost from the start, despite the credulous belief that Bashar Assad ran a nonsectarian regime. That a sectarian ruling minority fighting for its life would not fold easily was obvious within months, despite happy guarantees that the regime's downfall would come within weeks. That a sectarian war in Syria would stir similar religious furies in Iraq and Lebanon was obvious more than a year ago, despite wishful administration thinking that staying out of Syria would contain the war to Syria alone.

What should be obvious today is that we are at the dawn of a much wider Shiite-Sunni war, the one that nearly materialized in Iraq in 2006 but didn't because the U.S. was there, militarily and diplomatically, to stop it. But now the U.S. isn't there. What's left to figure out is whether this megawar isn't, from a Western point of view, a very good thing.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hezbollah; iran; islam; israel; jihad; muslimcivilwar; muslims; muslimworld; rop; russia; shiite; shiitemuslims; sunni; sunnimuslims; syria; trop; waronterror

1 posted on 06/04/2013 5:55:50 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Is Bozo a Sunni or a Shite?

He acts like a Shite.


2 posted on 06/04/2013 5:57:44 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: george76
Syria borders Iraq, which is mostly Shiite. Regardless of what the government in Baghdad thinks, the Shiites of Iraq are not going to want to see fellow Shiites massacred in Syria in the wake of a Sunni victory.

I see the Syrian conflict widening.

3 posted on 06/04/2013 6:03:37 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Yo, Mr. Stephens. In case the WSJ didn't get the memo, we are BROKE. Insolvent.

And I got 20 bucks on the Ruskies.

4 posted on 06/04/2013 6:11:59 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: george76

Sunni v. Shia ‘til the end of time. Let them have at it and - McCain, I’m looking at you - stay out of it. Reagan had it right when he let Saddam and the Ayatollah go at it hammer and tongs. Let them exhaust their wealth and their population; we’ll be better off for it.


5 posted on 06/04/2013 6:14:45 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything. Bolshies' gonna bolsh.)
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To: IbJensen
0bummer is a Sunni, per his father.

Surprisingly, the administration is supporting the Sunni Rebels (*cough* Al Qaeda in Syria *cough*).

6 posted on 06/04/2013 6:15:25 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (MOHAMMED WAS A CHILD RAPIST!)
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To: george76

The author starts with building a case for inaction so he can knock it down. However, I do not think he ever knocks down his own straw man argument. If fact he ends with stated that Obama has worked himself into a corner with very little options. So why wouldn’t the US secretly embrace an Islamic civil war?


7 posted on 06/04/2013 6:22:12 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: george76

Lemmie see, now............

Its the BAD GUYS versus the BAD GUYS, IMHO.

Pull up a chair, and please pass the popcorn.
Got any beer?


8 posted on 06/04/2013 6:25:02 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming--to TAKE OUR GUNS"--Paul Revere)
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To: 11th Commandment
The great danger we're faced with is creation of a radical Islamist caliphate, something Obama wants to see happen. The Mudslimes need a totally demoralizing experience to get them to swear off radical Islam. Historically, the only thing that really seems to work for any people is a prolonged, bloody, horrific, inconclusive war like WWI or the 30 Years’ War. The author of this article doesn't even seem to understand this basic proposition.
9 posted on 06/04/2013 6:35:16 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Paine in the Neck

When you enemies are killing each other, get out of the way.


10 posted on 06/04/2013 6:36:58 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: carriage_hill

Bingo.


11 posted on 06/04/2013 7:35:43 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Some people take there grammar way to seriously.)
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To: george76

I miss the days of the Iran/Iraq War.

Selling as much oil as they could to buy our weapons.

And then using those weapons to help each other find their 72 virgins.


12 posted on 06/04/2013 7:46:30 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: PapaBear3625

It is a bit more complicated than that because the part of Iraq that borders Syria is Sunni dominated. You have Sunni’s from that area fighting for the Free Syrian Army but the Shiite gov’t in Baghdad is allowing Iranian overflights into Syria.


13 posted on 06/04/2013 8:09:49 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Flintlock; george76
Its the BAD GUYS versus the BAD GUYS, IMHO.

I see no good options other than a quarantine around Islamic states. Maybe Red Cross aid, only if security is guaranteed.

Christians are being persecuted in those countries. I'd use that as an opportunity to halt our current immigration system to one that makes some sense: those Christian Arab refugees and those from other countries who are highly skilled and those who are wealthy enough to start businesses that hire beyond members of their family.

14 posted on 06/04/2013 11:47:20 AM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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15 posted on 06/04/2013 4:04:56 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: george76

Go long on popcorn futures.


16 posted on 06/04/2013 4:20:51 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: IbJensen

Obama’s a Sunni and his foreign policy objectives prove that. At every step he’s benefited Sunnis. The only exception is in Iran. There, my suspicion is that he prefers Sharia over liberty.


17 posted on 06/05/2013 4:37:33 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: libstripper

Muslims are nihilistic. Obama is encouraging them and Islamizing the US government as best he can. It will take a long hard purge to remove the moles.


18 posted on 06/05/2013 5:01:05 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: neverdem

One danger is that many of these Christians are also socialists. Islam prefers a controlled market.


19 posted on 06/05/2013 5:01:51 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: george76

Whomever is losing needs to be given more small arms...


20 posted on 06/05/2013 3:19:04 PM PDT by DB
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks george76.
Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the prominent Sunni cleric, said Friday that Hezbollah and Iran are "more infidel than Jews and Christians." Coming from the guy who once lauded Hitler for exacting "divine punishment" on the Jews, that really is saying something.
Praise the Lord, and pass both of them the ammunition.


21 posted on 06/10/2013 6:41:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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