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Sebelius won’t waive regulation for girl with five weeks to live: ‘Someone lives and someone dies’
Washington Examiner ^ | June 4, 2013 | 1:07 pm | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 06/04/2013 11:16:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius rebuffed an appeal from Rep. Lou Barletta, R-Pa., on behalf of a girl who needs a lung transplant but can’t get one because of a federal regulation that prevents her from qualifying for a transplant. …

“I would suggest, sir, that, again, this is an incredibly agonizing situation where someone lives and someone dies,” Sebelius replied. “The medical evidence and the transplant doctors who are making the rule—and have had the rule in place since 2005 making a delineation between pediatric and adult lungs, because lungs are different than other organs—that it’s based on the survivability [chances].” …

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: abortion; bhodhs; deathpanels; healthcare; kathleensebelius; loubarletta; lungtransplant; murnaghan; obamacare; pennsylvania; sarahmurnaghan; sebelius; zerocare
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1 posted on 06/04/2013 11:16:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Looks like Obama’s death panels have arrived.


2 posted on 06/04/2013 11:17:37 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Olog-hai
And these are the people who laughed at Palin’s suggestion about Death Panels.

Folks, this is just the beginning

3 posted on 06/04/2013 11:18:32 AM PDT by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: Olog-hai

She must have looked at their voter registration,
or the charities they donate to,

and determined that this girl would be “someone who dies”.


4 posted on 06/04/2013 11:19:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Olog-hai

If the girl’s doctors think she’s a good candidate for transplant,then get out of the way Kathleen.


5 posted on 06/04/2013 11:19:18 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Olog-hai

The witch doesn’t care.


6 posted on 06/04/2013 11:19:26 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

You need to check you spelling - that should be “b****”.


7 posted on 06/04/2013 11:23:42 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: TNoldman

I was thinking more along the lines of “Weapons-grade Douche Nozzle.”


8 posted on 06/04/2013 11:26:01 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Olog-hai

If her family put’s up a fight, will the DOJ or IRS pay them a visit? We live in a dangerous new world.


9 posted on 06/04/2013 11:28:03 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: rarestia

Sibileus is living up to all our expectations and is just getting warmed up.


10 posted on 06/04/2013 11:29:23 AM PDT by Kanzan
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To: Olog-hai

The bureaucrats are now in God’s stead deciding who lives and who dies. The American demographic voted for those currently in positions of authority and due to degeneracy will not object but like brute beasts accept their lot.


11 posted on 06/04/2013 11:29:37 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Olog-hai
what if the girl was her daughter?? Oh, aren't DC bureaucrats and politicians exempt from obozo care?
12 posted on 06/04/2013 11:29:37 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Timber Rattler

You are right!!! What’s one more young child life lost, when Sebelius sanctions millions of murderous abortions from early to late term without any remorse at all. Obama and Sebelius could care less about this child. These disgusting people, from Obama on down are heartless killers!!! America, you are standing by an America many of us would have never dreamt we would ever see. Hilter is briskly alive and well In Obama and his lock-stepping, child murderers. They have no souls, these Democrats!!! Why should they, their beloved Obama is truly Hitler & Satan combined!!! God is weeping today....and so am I!!! Wait......the Obama/Sebelius death panels will be here soon!!!! If you are old, sickand require extensive medical care.....the Obama team will kill you!!!


13 posted on 06/04/2013 11:31:42 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

We certainly went from “no death panels” to “death panels someday” to “you’re going to die” in record time, didn’t we?


14 posted on 06/04/2013 11:33:32 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Olog-hai

Oh, but no...there’s no death panels, are there...


15 posted on 06/04/2013 11:34:05 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Olog-hai
She can’t qualify for an adult lung transplant until the age of 12, according to federal regulations, but Sebelius has the authority to waive that rule on her behalf.

WTF? Why does such a federal regulation exist?

16 posted on 06/04/2013 11:34:06 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Olog-hai

Unfortunately there are many more people in need of organs then donors. There are current rules around who gets in the front of the line. One can argue against the rule as written. But does one want a situation where a Congressman gets to reshuffle the line? If this girl gets to jump in line then someone who does not have the political pull will not get the organ and will die.


17 posted on 06/04/2013 11:37:02 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Olog-hai

The very young and the very old will be the first to be denied care under Obamacare. The Nazis had a term..”life without life” for those deemed too expensive for the state to care for and who then were euthanized. We can expect the same under Obamacare.


18 posted on 06/04/2013 11:37:48 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Olog-hai

Democrats are part and parcel to murder on a daily basis. Nazis of the first order. I wish on them the same fate as the Nazis.


19 posted on 06/04/2013 11:38:48 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Olog-hai

It is an honor to die for Dear Leader


20 posted on 06/04/2013 11:40:33 AM PDT by Lexington Green (First, they came for the Tea Party...)
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To: LMAO

Yes, the Government will insist that the rule is based on what the science and the “doctors” say, just not what HER doctor says. Of course, if she were pregnant and wanted an abortion, Sebelius would issue an exception without hesitation.


21 posted on 06/04/2013 11:40:52 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Rummyfan

” She can’t qualify for an adult lung transplant until the age of 12, according to federal regulations, but Sebelius has the authority to waive that rule on her behalf. “

If the girls parents were Democrats from Chicago, what do you think would happen?


22 posted on 06/04/2013 11:41:35 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: WKUHilltopper

Is there a Health and Human Services officer named Mengele?


23 posted on 06/04/2013 11:42:01 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Olog-hai

Sebelius would act immediately if this girl’s parents were Democrats. I’m betting they’re Republicans. My bad if wrong but apparently our new government bases all of it’s decisions on one’s belief system; Democrat or Republican.


24 posted on 06/04/2013 11:42:42 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: C19fan

I agree with you. If there are rules in place, it should not be up to the discretion of Sebelius or anyone to change the rules at their whim. It is a sad situation, but if we seem to start down a road of condoning the HHS to make decisions as to who lives and who dies... we are just escalating the problem.


25 posted on 06/04/2013 11:42:57 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Olog-hai

Ms Sibelius is going to go to hell.


26 posted on 06/04/2013 11:44:14 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: TNoldman

Agreed.


27 posted on 06/04/2013 11:45:39 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Olog-hai

what was that movie denzel washington was in when his son needed an operation??


28 posted on 06/04/2013 11:52:03 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Olog-hai
“The medical evidence and the transplant doctors who are making the rule—and have had the rule in place since 2005

BUSH'S FAULT!! BUSH'S FAULT!!

29 posted on 06/04/2013 11:53:30 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Old Sarge

Yet they cling to this rather than change it. Bush’s precedent becomes good when they can utilize it to their own whims.


30 posted on 06/04/2013 11:54:17 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

She should be the first nominee for the ‘Adam Lanza Award’.


31 posted on 06/04/2013 11:56:25 AM PDT by Spok (Gun control is punishing the innocent for the acts of the guilty.)
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To: Olog-hai

Just democrats doing what democrats do, kill the unborn and young.

The more they kill the better they feel.

Time to stop letting them kick us around and start fighting back.


32 posted on 06/04/2013 11:57:26 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Olog-hai

Just rip a lung out of Sebelius, she’s such a blowhard she can do without it

It’ll be just another dead baby notch on her belt


33 posted on 06/04/2013 12:01:06 PM PDT by eartotheground
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To: ottbmare

She already owns a cubicle right next to teddy kennedy and frank lautenberg.

LLS


34 posted on 06/04/2013 12:03:22 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

“The American demographic voted for those currently in positions of authority and due to degeneracy will not object but like brute beasts accept their lot.”


Yeah it sure looks that way especially when so many conservatives sat out the last election.

Seems we could come up with our own enemy of the Country list based on the percentage who voted for communism.

Blacks 95% (more if you count the ones who voted multiple times)
Jewish 75% (so smart and so dumb at the same time)
Butt Pirates 90%
College/University professors 80%
Media 90%
Hispanic ?? don’t know the % but it is more than 50
Muslims 90%

Need I go on? Seems like we have a very large enemy within our own borders.


35 posted on 06/04/2013 12:03:46 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Olog-hai

Death Panel.


36 posted on 06/04/2013 12:06:19 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: The Great RJ
The Nazis had a term..”life without life” for those deemed too expensive for the state to care for and who then were euthanized.

The expression was "lebensunwertes Leben," meaning "life not worthy of life."

Regards,

37 posted on 06/04/2013 12:08:29 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Olog-hai

.....and someone has secret government emails despite explicit sunshine laws.


38 posted on 06/04/2013 12:08:52 PM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: Olog-hai

What is the federal regulation that prevents her from qualifying for a transplant? I have know people who have had friends die waiting for a transplant. Does the rule prevent her from getting the transplant or won’t pay for it? There are more people needed them than there are available. If you had unlimited money so any that anybody who needed it can be treated someone still needs to choose who gets treated first. Who should do this? It can’t be just the patient’s doctor because they only know about their patient.

The first test is it a good match? Will the person getting the transplant accept it or not?.

Once you know it is a match witch one is most likely to survive a transplant. Another how long can they wait?

Is this a place where free market won’t work?

Who comes first an old Hollywood star that has money to pay for it?

Should a homeless drunken street bum be turned away because he won’t do the necessary follow up to live?

Should the tax payers be included in the choices because they pay for it?

People on death row?

All this some what academic because until there are enough donors someone will need to choose who dies.


39 posted on 06/04/2013 12:12:30 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (A bad hair day is not a mental issue, or is it?)
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To: TNoldman; All

Timber Rattler was right to call her a witch, not a bitch. A bitch is a female dog. I have two wonderful male dogs. The mother of each was a bitch. A witch, OTOH, is a totally vile, evil woman who’s sold her soul to Satan in return for special, evil, powers, a perfect description of Siebelius. Calling her a bitch horribly insults all dogs, her personal and moral level being so far below theirs.


40 posted on 06/04/2013 12:16:19 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Olog-hai
 photo CANCELED3_zps8b1c44ab.jpg So the rumor of death panels is true... Cheaper to let her die.
41 posted on 06/04/2013 12:17:47 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t want the govt involved with this decision. It should be a medical decision.


42 posted on 06/04/2013 12:19:49 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

In another era, Sebelius would have been in charge of a Nazi death camp or of a Soviet gulag.

She has a cold, harsh, I-know-better-than-you apparatchik attitude about her.

She is the American version of the murderers who ran those camps.


43 posted on 06/04/2013 12:22:10 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden are merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: Olog-hai

We should all be on the LAWN of the WH right now. With tars, feathers, and a noose.


44 posted on 06/04/2013 12:22:21 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: Olog-hai

She showed them how those death panels are supposed to operate ... rules are rules, except for the exalted.


45 posted on 06/04/2013 12:23:13 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Truth - the new hate speech!)
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To: tennmountainman
Looks like Obama’s death panels have arrived.

Hold on a minute. If this young girl is getting the lungs, who is?

I am eager to jump and point as proof. But is there some good medical sense behind the decision or are they throwing the lungs in the trash because of a rule?

There must be more to the story.

46 posted on 06/04/2013 12:24:13 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Olog-hai

“And most of all, there was everywhere a contempt for human life. What, to the strong, was one man more or less in a crowded world?”


47 posted on 06/04/2013 12:24:15 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Olog-hai

Sibelius: DEATH PANEL


48 posted on 06/04/2013 12:24:56 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Timber Rattler

No, she doesn’t. If I posted my mind right now, I would be permabanned and attract helicopters. That poor baby girl.:(


49 posted on 06/04/2013 12:25:29 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“If the girls parents were Democrats from Chicago, what do you think would happen?”

1st in line


50 posted on 06/04/2013 12:26:26 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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