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Police: woman forced into van, raped in Mechanicsburg
abc27 WHTM ^ | June 3, 2013 | Sari Heidenreich

Posted on 06/04/2013 12:33:20 PM PDT by Jyotishi

Mechanicsburg, Pa. (WHTM) - A woman was forced into a van on the Carlisle Pike Sunday afternoon and then raped by two men, according to Silver Spring Township Police.

Police said the woman was walking on the 6600 block of the Carlisle Pike when two men quickly approached and forced her into the back of a van around 4 p.m. on Sunday. The men then drove to an alley and raped the woman, according to police.

Police Superintendent Richard Hammon said the act appears to be random.

"This lady wasn't doing anything wrong," he said. "She was walking in her neighborhood and she was approached rather quickly, I would say, and there really wasn't anything she could do."

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The men are both described as being in their 30s with husky builds and shaved heads. One of the men had a beard, one-inch gauge-style earrings, blue eyes and a dragon tattoo that wrapped around his right hand and went over his shoulder. The other man had a goatee, hazel/grayish eyes and skull tattoos all over his body.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: mechanicsburg; rape

1 posted on 06/04/2013 12:33:20 PM PDT by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi
They've done this before.
2 posted on 06/04/2013 12:42:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Jyotishi

I imagine that had she been armed, there would have been plenty that she could do.


3 posted on 06/04/2013 12:42:40 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Jyotishi

One of the men had a beard, one-inch gauge-style earrings, blue eyes and a dragon tattoo that wrapped around his right hand and went over his shoulder. The other man had a goatee, hazel/grayish eyes and skull tattoos all over his body.

Hard to spot eh.


4 posted on 06/04/2013 12:47:15 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Jyotishi

What? Its okay to rape someone if they are “doing something wrong?” These guys are buffoons...


5 posted on 06/04/2013 12:59:58 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: Jyotishi

Time for Vigilante Justice, String em up./


6 posted on 06/04/2013 1:00:02 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: tet68

Amish gone bad?


7 posted on 06/04/2013 1:00:26 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Jyotishi

Dragon tattoo and skull tattoos.

Probably weren’t ever in the Boy Scouts.

Won’t be able to say the same thing 20 years from now.


8 posted on 06/04/2013 1:01:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Jyotishi

That’s a pretty nice part of PA. At least it was years ago. Mechanicsburg is the home of legendary Williams Grove Speedway


9 posted on 06/04/2013 1:36:27 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: Farmer Dean

The Amish Jokes are getting old and lame.


10 posted on 06/04/2013 1:40:16 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Jyotishi

It is very important that girls be raised with the idea of self defense, and that they are *expected* to defend themselves if attacked, “because this is what girls do.”

The underlying philosophy is that resistance, any resistance, radically increases the “degree of difficulty” of the attack; and it works strongly to curtail the attackers feelings of dominance, which is a big motivator for attackers.

Rapists in particular want to dominate and humiliate their victims, but if their victims refuse to be victims, refuse to be humiliated, by continuing to resist, it will often exhaust the rapist, many of whom already have “performance anxiety”.

And if they can injure the rapist or attacker, with a knife, or any handy sharp or blunt object, which is often far more convenient than a gun, they don’t just win, they win big.


11 posted on 06/04/2013 1:52:12 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: LaRueLaDue

Point well taken. Hopefully this Superintendent was trying to prevent anyone from dismissing the danger by assuming the victim was somehow putting herself at higher than normal risk (by soliciting for prostitution, buying/selling/using dope, etc. in a “bad” area). People should never assume that they can remain safe by merely not “doing something wrong”. Or he could be a complete idiot.


12 posted on 06/04/2013 2:08:05 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: taxcontrol

Bingo!


13 posted on 06/04/2013 2:39:36 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Jyotishi
"This lady wasn't doing anything wrong," he said.

That's about the dumbest thing I've read in a while. I guess if she was doing something wrong it would be ok to grab her.

14 posted on 06/04/2013 2:41:33 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Chewbarkah; LaRueLaDue
Point well taken. Hopefully this Superintendent was trying to prevent anyone from dismissing the danger by assuming the victim was somehow putting herself at higher than normal risk (by soliciting for prostitution, buying/selling/using dope, etc. in a “bad” area). People should never assume that they can remain safe by merely not “doing something wrong”. Or he could be a complete idiot.

I read it as, "She wasn't doing anything risky or foolish, therefore, these are some very brazen rapists and women need to be hyper-aware."

15 posted on 06/04/2013 2:42:35 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ckilmer
The Amish Jokes are getting old and lame.

No kidding. About as old as the "Bush's fault" thing over and over and over.

16 posted on 06/04/2013 2:43:42 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Jyotishi

That poor, poor woman. If I am not wrong (and my PA freepers could confirm or deny) but Mechanisburg is somewhat rural (vs big city). I hope they catch these creeps before they kill someone.


17 posted on 06/04/2013 3:02:08 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: TangoLimaSierra; ckilmer

It’s not a joke. We’re in the middle of two-terms of a president who is 1) the most oppressive regime ever and 2) a racist black. People are afraid to use the real word. Cut ‘em some slack.


18 posted on 06/04/2013 3:02:59 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: BenLurkin

A Tattoo Merit Badge, (tattooed on).


19 posted on 06/04/2013 3:06:34 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
People are afraid to use the real word. Cut ‘em some slack

In all likelihood the perps were white. Are we supposed to use "Amish" for white dirtbags now too? In any case, the original use of Amish was for Muslim perps since both of those are religions. Only the sledgehammer humor pushers extended it to black.

20 posted on 06/04/2013 4:08:02 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: palmer

It wasn’t a long stretch to black when you consider the fact the vast majority of Muzzies in the US are, in fact, black. But your point is well taken. Frankly, nothing is a laughing matter these days, now that our darkest fears about the IRS and it’s place in Obastardcare are being proven out.


21 posted on 06/04/2013 4:20:47 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: SampleMan; Chewbarkah

I read it as it was transcribed.

People in positions of power need to be mindful of what they say and how they say it, at ALL times. If he was not aware of what he said (which I think is most likely), to me it says that he is not “up” to the position he is in, either intellectually or educationally, or both. In any case, he needs to fix this problem ASAP, or get out of that position. Otherwise, he just beclowns himself, and degrades the position he is in.


22 posted on 06/04/2013 5:04:14 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: LaRueLaDue

The written snippet does not convey tone, nor body language. It is also impossible to predict how your words will be parsed by a reporter.

You could be right, but we’d have to see the full comments to know.


23 posted on 06/04/2013 5:08:10 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Well, take it in whatever way you like, but for me, he is careless in (or ignorant of) how he expresses himself, and it reflects badly on his position and himself.

I am done cutting people slack when they shouldn’t ever put themselves in a position to need it. Sorry, I am just done. People need to be aware of, and take responsibility for, what they say and how they say it.

Words mean something.


24 posted on 06/04/2013 5:18:51 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: LaRueLaDue

You are aware that this was written by the press right?

I’ve done a few interviews with the press and have first hand knowledge that a 30 minute interview can be cut to 4 seconds that make you appear to say the exact opposite of what you were actually saying.

“Not doing anything wrong.” is a natural non-accusitory statement, e.g. “He wasn’t doing anything wrong, he had just pulled over to the side of the road to change a tire, and bang, he got hit by an out of control truck.”

But, like I said, you could be right.


25 posted on 06/04/2013 5:24:16 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Yes, I am aware that the media wrote this...

In commenting on this, I was thinking of several mentors I had that kept this sort of thing under control, as best they could. They never said ANYTHING in public that could be taken wrongly/poorly out of context; and what they said was generally worded such that even if it was cut down, it wouldn’t sound like this did. (It would not sound right/complete, but would still convey what was needed/wanted.)

I realize it is hard to do (I am not particularly good at it myself), but the gist of what I was trying to point out was that people in positions of “power” (for lack of a better word) should and must be aware of ALL they say, at ALL times, and not say anything that could be taken improperly out of context. If that means keeping mostly quiet at times, so be it. What is the old adage? “I never got in trouble keeping my mouth shut.”


26 posted on 06/04/2013 5:56:05 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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