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Lindsey Graham Isn't Sure If Bloggers Deserve 'First Amendment Protection'
National Journal ^ | June 5, 2013 | Brian Fung

Posted on 06/05/2013 9:18:43 AM PDT by don-o

Whether bloggers count as journalists has mostly been a matter of esoterics for reporter types. But as Congress weighs a media shield law in response to the Associated Press/Justice Department subpoena scandal, the question is gaining an urgency that lawmakers are finding hard to ignore as they turn to writing the bill.

Speaking to reporters Tuesday, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., took on the issue—and stumbled.

"Who is a journalist is a question we need to ask ourselves," he said. "Is any blogger out there saying anything—do they deserve First Amendment protection? These are the issues of our times."

The verbal slipup aside (of course bloggers are covered under the Bill of Rights!), Graham's riffing on constitutional law exposes one of the age-old tensions between journalism as a product and journalism as an activity. What Graham really meant to ask was whether bloggers deserve the specific protections of the First Amendment that are granted to the press. But as the line between blogger and journalist has blurred, a far more relevant challenge is figuring out whether those protections apply to the behavior of finding and passing on (sometimes secret) information, or if they apply only to people with little plastic ID badges to prove their affiliation.

In some ways, what this episode really suggests is that it might be time to retire the word "blogger" as an artifact of the aughts.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; bloggers; firstamendment; freespeech; lindseygraham; nancymace; randsconcerntrolls; rinokeywordcowards; shieldlaw; southcarolina
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There he goes again
1 posted on 06/05/2013 9:18:43 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o
SC Pubbies. FGS please primary this moron.
2 posted on 06/05/2013 9:20:29 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: don-o
Are pictures OK with the thinly disguised turd burglar?

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3 posted on 06/05/2013 9:21:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Not OK - Vital!


4 posted on 06/05/2013 9:22:40 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

I think we all understand why Lindsey would think this.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.


5 posted on 06/05/2013 9:22:47 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

Yup - some of my best friends.....


6 posted on 06/05/2013 9:23:35 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
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7 posted on 06/05/2013 9:24:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: don-o

Who gives a sh*t what Lindsey Graham thinks....

If he wants to persecute bloggers, let him amend the Bill of Rights or go f*** himself.


8 posted on 06/05/2013 9:25:57 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Liberty Valance

Oh... I get it now. I have to be a journalist in order to be given protection under the first amendment.

Clearly, the internet blogs have taken a front seat to providing a venue for all American’s to express their opinions without reproach.

Or am I missing something from Durbin and Graham here?


9 posted on 06/05/2013 9:26:39 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: don-o

I’m sure the British wanted to silence the bloggers like Tom Paine too.

FULG


10 posted on 06/05/2013 9:27:31 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: don-o

Of course they do. However, Graham doesn’t deserve re-election.


11 posted on 06/05/2013 9:29:04 AM PDT by kevkrom (Obama: less class than Bill Clinton)
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To: don-o
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That there freedom of speech dealie covers a multitude of sins if that there freedom of the ‘press’, don't.

what a dolt 'she' is

12 posted on 06/05/2013 9:29:12 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: don-o

Lindsey? Shut up...

No... Just...

Shut up.


13 posted on 06/05/2013 9:29:31 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: don-o

The 1st Amendment isn’t about journalism. A journalist has no more right to free speech than a garbage collector. The moment the government determines who is a journalist and who isn’t, journalism will be nothing but propaganda for government.


14 posted on 06/05/2013 9:30:22 AM PDT by pallis
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To: don-o

FULG!


15 posted on 06/05/2013 9:31:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: don-o

He may not be sure, but one thing I’m sure of-I’ll not vote for his ass EVER again.


16 posted on 06/05/2013 9:31:47 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: don-o

SC Republicans, please please get a constitutional conservative to run against him this upcoming election. Lindsey Graham knows most of the information that we deserve is published through means of the web. Fire him, SC!


17 posted on 06/05/2013 9:34:10 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: don-o

Goober isn’t even sure what the First Amendment is.


18 posted on 06/05/2013 9:34:42 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping!


19 posted on 06/05/2013 9:34:48 AM PDT by basil (basil --Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: don-o
I see where Linda called out Rep Issa for calling Carney a Liar!

What the hell is with him and his partner MeCain butting in!

20 posted on 06/05/2013 9:35:32 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Jack Hammer

The problem is that he or to be more specific the obama Junta just might decide to do just that (see what the IRS has been up to) .

Also given this governments penchant for ever increasing police state like powers of surveillance if you want to see the shape of things to come as far as Federal Law Enforcement take a look at what the old East German Stasi used to do to folks to send the message of shut up & stay in line or else.


21 posted on 06/05/2013 9:36:07 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: don-o

hardly surprised.


22 posted on 06/05/2013 9:36:56 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: don-o; humblegunner
There he goes again

Why are you surprised at this ? We have people right here on Free Republic too who harass conservative bloggers and try to shut them out/up on a daily basis .

23 posted on 06/05/2013 9:37:28 AM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Nebr FAL owner

You’re right, of course; however, I’m old and have one foot in the grave, so I have the luxury of not giving a sh*t.


24 posted on 06/05/2013 9:37:52 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: TexasCajun
What the hell is with him and his partner MeCain butting in!

Doh!!

25 posted on 06/05/2013 9:40:44 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

26 posted on 06/05/2013 9:41:11 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: don-o

Another Whacko-Bird speaks.

Lemme think back to those Founding Fathers and their Journalism degrees. Wait. No such thing.


27 posted on 06/05/2013 9:41:15 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: nikos1121

Correct. You have to be a Gov’t sanctioned ‘press’ agent to have a 1st amendment. Not like you were born with those rights already.


28 posted on 06/05/2013 9:41:39 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Lera
We have people right here on Free Republic too who harass conservative bloggers and try to shut them out/up on a daily basis .

Some folks would be happy just to have them post their full content instead of excerpting.

Which seems rather the opposite of "try to shut them out/up".

29 posted on 06/05/2013 9:41:45 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: don-o
Will Muny, "Deserve's got nothing to do with it."

The self-evident truth of right to free speech was given by God. Where does Graham get off thinking he has the right to veto GOD?

30 posted on 06/05/2013 9:42:10 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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To: Jack Hammer

Freedom of Speech is separate from Freedom of the Press because the local newspaper doesn’t have to print you Letter to the Editor. But you can print your own. i.e. a Blog.


31 posted on 06/05/2013 9:42:24 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: don-o

hum? And here I thought EVERYONE deserves First Amendment rights.


32 posted on 06/05/2013 9:42:38 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: TexasCajun

That is very simple they (Graham & McCain) view the Senate a a very elite good old boys club were Republicans & Democrats play a power sharing game that also allows them to line their pockets & enjoy the perks & prestige of high office .

The last thing either Graham or McCain want is somebody rocking the boat.
The fact that the Democrats have decided to turn this country into something resembling East Germany doesn’t really bother them as long as the bastards get to remain in office with all the perks & benefits/freebies.


33 posted on 06/05/2013 9:43:11 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: pallis
A journalist has no more right to free speech than a garbage collector.

Exactly. There was politician (republican actually) that wanted to "license" journalists. Dan Rather wanted a huge tax break for news organization (there's some irony). Liberals want the Fair Speech Act and for it to be illegal to lie for news anchors (and they get to determine what's a lie and when that rule is enforced).

They might as well consolidate all the news and call it Pravda.

34 posted on 06/05/2013 9:43:23 AM PDT by techcor
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To: don-o

Wrong question.

It is not “Does a particular person or organization “deserve” first amendment protections?”

The proper question is “Under what authority does the government have the right to deny ANYONE their first amendment protections?”


35 posted on 06/05/2013 9:49:26 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: don-o

Hey, Grahamnesty, today’s blog is yesterday’s Broadsheet, specifically included in the First Amendment by the Founding Fathers.


36 posted on 06/05/2013 9:49:34 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: don-o

The weblog is one equivalent of the handbill. Graham should surrender his law license.


37 posted on 06/05/2013 9:49:53 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: don-o

I guess none of our founding fathers would qualify for the right to free speech under these tyrants. To these tyrants only the lamestream media that supports their communism agenda are allowed to speak.


38 posted on 06/05/2013 9:51:09 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: don-o

Uhmmu, Lindsay, it’s called FREE SPEECH. You poor fool.


39 posted on 06/05/2013 9:51:33 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: don-o

But do bloggers have one of those cards in their hats that say PRESS?


40 posted on 06/05/2013 9:55:10 AM PDT by Starstruck (Don't rest. We came close to the 2nd Amendment being field tested.)
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To: don-o
Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press

It's not complicated. We all have freedom of speech, even those who support Obama as more important than preserving America as a free country. We all have freedom of the press, even ordinary people who post on Kos and DU or who slam Governor Sarah Palin right here on FR. These are God-given rights, and He gave them to every single person on earth - even Muslims who don't want to have those rights, even to leftists who don't want us to have those rights, and even to the unborn babies who will be murdered by their own mothers at Planned Parenthood before they ever have a chance to communicate aloud or in writing and exercise those rights.

41 posted on 06/05/2013 9:55:29 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: don-o
So the First Amendment only applies to "joinalists?"

Since when?

42 posted on 06/05/2013 9:56:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: Liberty Valance

Are there blogs devoted to his “life style” of choice?


43 posted on 06/05/2013 9:57:15 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: don-o

It does not matter what you think they deserve. The constitution guarantees them 1st amendment rights no matter what your wishes might be.


44 posted on 06/05/2013 9:58:38 AM PDT by formosa
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To: jimfree

Can this clown be recalled?


45 posted on 06/05/2013 9:58:53 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Jane Long

Any chance Trey Gowdy will run in 2014 primary to FINALLY remove Linda Gramnesty?


46 posted on 06/05/2013 10:01:00 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: don-o

Is this spitwad retarded or something?


47 posted on 06/05/2013 10:04:24 AM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: don-o

The Bill of Rights only applies to speshul people, Linseed? GFY!


48 posted on 06/05/2013 10:04:30 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: don-o

Oh, Lindsey! You’re SUCH a bitch! I just want to pinch your chubby cheeks!

(No, the ones on your face.)


49 posted on 06/05/2013 10:07:07 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: don-o

Do we have to register as reporters before expressing an opinion? What are the standards? What are the requirements? Where is the free government training program?


50 posted on 06/05/2013 10:31:36 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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