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Manson family member Leslie Van Houten is again denied freedom
LA Times ^ | June 5, 2013 | Andrew Blankstein

Posted on 06/05/2013 6:19:34 PM PDT by jazusamo

A parole board on Wednesday rejected Manson family member Leslie Van Houten's 19th attempt to win freedom.

The board also decided she could not seek parole again for five years.

Van Houten, 63, was convicted of murder and conspiracy in the 1969 killings of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca in their home in Los Feliz. She has repeatedly been denied bids for parole over the last four decades.

“Given the brutality of the murders of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca and Van Houten’s willing and active participation in this evil, pre-planned and violent crime, we are pleased with the parole board’s decision to continue to hold Van Houten accountable for her heinous actions,' L.A. County Dist. Atty. Jackie Lacey said in a statement.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: charlesmanson; labianca; lenolabianca; leslievanhouten; manson; mansonfamily; parole; rosemarylabianca; vanhouten
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1 posted on 06/05/2013 6:19:34 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

I knew two people who lived with the Manson Family. Fortunately for them they weren’t around for the murders.


2 posted on 06/05/2013 6:24:24 PM PDT by Pelham (Deport illegal aliens? Hell yes!)
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To: jazusamo

I actually disagree with this. The crime WAS brutal, but she is no longer a threat and she has paid sufficiently for her crimes. We let gang bangers out of jail every day who are 100% more of a threat to all of us than she is. The parole board is playing politics to public opinion and the media.


3 posted on 06/05/2013 6:27:28 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Which is fine with me.


4 posted on 06/05/2013 6:29:06 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: SkyPilot

WRONG!


5 posted on 06/05/2013 6:29:59 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC M6A2)
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To: jazusamo

Doesn’t some liberal college need teachers?


6 posted on 06/05/2013 6:30:19 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: SkyPilot
she is no longer a threat and she has paid sufficiently for her crimes

Personally, I think she should have been executed years, and years, and years ago. Gotta' look at the crime scene photos to appreciate what cruel monsters they were. It's a shame that, even every 5 years, we have to listen to her try to get out.

7 posted on 06/05/2013 6:31:38 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: jazusamo

Good


8 posted on 06/05/2013 6:31:58 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: jazusamo
I lived in LA County when the murders took place and still remember the savagery of them and the fear of residents.

It's a shame the executions weren't carried out before the death penalty was temporarily overturned in CA, it's what they all deserved.

No Manson family member in prison should ever be paroled, IMO.

9 posted on 06/05/2013 6:32:26 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Pelham

A friend of mine and former employee of my dad’s shop in S. El Monte, CA went to high school with Leslie. She was a homecoming queen. Monrovia HS


10 posted on 06/05/2013 6:32:56 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: SkyPilot
and she has paid sufficiently for her crimes

Have you ever read the details of the Tate/LaBianca murders? Paid sufficiently? Are you effin' kidding me?

11 posted on 06/05/2013 6:33:02 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: SkyPilot

She should have been executed.


12 posted on 06/05/2013 6:33:03 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: jazusamo

I believe the Parole Board’s exact words to Houten in denying her parole was “FORK YOU”.


13 posted on 06/05/2013 6:33:04 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: SkyPilot

I agree. Young girls from broken homes and easy to manipulate. She’s paid enough. Hang Manson and let the rest go.


14 posted on 06/05/2013 6:33:07 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: SkyPilot

I agree with you.


15 posted on 06/05/2013 6:33:31 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Pelham

I wouldn’t invite them over for dinner unless it was for soup.


16 posted on 06/05/2013 6:33:52 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: jazusamo
She was one of the prettiest members of that murderous family. The late Susan Atkins aka Sadie Mae Glutz wasn't bad looking either, but Susan Atkins was quite the murderess at the Tate/Polanski residence. Leslie Van Houten did her evil work at the LoBianca residence. It was Leslie Van Houten's and Tex Watson's handiwork that earned the praise of the wife of Obama's mentor, Bill Ayers. Her name then was Bernadine Dhorn and she gleefully immortalized Van Houten's slaughter with her "fork/pinkie" salute.

Incidentally, the brother of a man who married my late aunt was one of the cops that broke into the Tate/Polanski residence after the killing. He said he never saw so much slaughter in his life -- before or since. :(

17 posted on 06/05/2013 6:34:04 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Pelham

Were they questioned during the investigation?


18 posted on 06/05/2013 6:35:07 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Pelham; SkyPilot

My post 9 was for the both of you.


19 posted on 06/05/2013 6:35:11 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: atc23

Leslie Houten was more like a “home invasion queen” than a “homecoming queen”.


20 posted on 06/05/2013 6:35:16 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Right Brother

Christ forgave the murderers that were executed along with Him.


21 posted on 06/05/2013 6:36:18 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I hope so, it is appropriate.


22 posted on 06/05/2013 6:36:43 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Aww, shucks!

23 posted on 06/05/2013 6:37:28 PM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Haha - good one. At one time, before the drugs, she was a relatively normal kid


24 posted on 06/05/2013 6:37:36 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: atc23

I thought they were thieves.


25 posted on 06/05/2013 6:41:58 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: jazusamo

Vince Bugliosi said in 1980 (he was speaking at my college) That of all the murderers, buggerers (sp?) and thieves he ever dealt with, the one that really frightened him was Charlie.


26 posted on 06/05/2013 6:43:04 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died, now Obama covers up the lies.)
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To: NFHale; BillyBoy; Perdogg; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; GSP.FAN; campaignPete R-CT; KC_Lion

You would think Roman Polanski would have manned up and taken some of these vermin out from the inside. But he’s a pedophile, so I guess not.

If someone did that to my wife and unborn child, “Law Abiding Citizen” time would ensue; take as many of them out as possible is as painful of a manner as possible.

I’m surprised no ones taken any of these trash or John Lennon’s killer out yet.


27 posted on 06/05/2013 6:43:16 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: Pelham

I also knew a guy that knew C Manson.

He could pass for CM’s twin brother.

Didn’t matter how well I knew him I still couldn’t bring myself to let him ride in the back seat while I was driving.
Gave me the willies.

We were having coffee at a Pitt Grill one morning in Mobile, Al before going to work. The cops surrounded the place, they though C Manson had escaped.


28 posted on 06/05/2013 6:45:24 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: SkyPilot

Too bad Bill Errs isn’t in the joint with her.


29 posted on 06/05/2013 6:45:44 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: SkyPilot

Let her pay her debt to society in full.


30 posted on 06/05/2013 6:46:10 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (The Government is actively preparing to go to War with a significant portion of its own Citizens.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I can believe that, Manson was bat**** crazy and still is.


31 posted on 06/05/2013 6:46:12 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Good, let the witch rot.


32 posted on 06/05/2013 6:49:00 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: SkyPilot

You obviously do not know this case


33 posted on 06/05/2013 6:51:44 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: jazusamo

Excellent! Now fry the bitch.


34 posted on 06/05/2013 6:52:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were Iviolated...)
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To: jazusamo

I’m having a hard time working up any sympathy for Ms. Houten.


35 posted on 06/05/2013 6:52:42 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: atc23

I believe that Christ forgave one of them (Dismas) because he asked for forgiveness.

Nothing is mentioned about the other criminal as far as I know.


36 posted on 06/05/2013 6:54:15 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: atc23
Christ forgave the murderers that were executed along with Him.

Actually, only one, and he was a thief. Has Leslie asked Christ for forgiveness?

37 posted on 06/05/2013 6:55:54 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: jazusamo
Still guilty:


38 posted on 06/05/2013 6:57:00 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: onyx; Travis McGee

Your era and your former neck of the woods

Can you believe post 3?

Good lord....I was only 13 but I remember it all like yesterday

Death of the hippie ideal

Van Houten should have been killed by the state but for damned Anderson ruling

Literally butchered


39 posted on 06/05/2013 6:57:08 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Michael.SF.
the one that really frightened him was Charlie.

Many years ago, Diane Sawyer interviewed Manson.

Diane: Charlie, some people say you are crazy. Are you?
Manson: Me? Crazy??? Back in my day crazy meant something. Today? EVERYONE is crazy!!!

40 posted on 06/05/2013 6:57:59 PM PDT by llevrok (How hot does the water need to get before the frog should jump out?)
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To: SkyPilot

SkyPilot, I’m not going to rag on you for your personal beliefs on this one, but I could never agree to release a woman who stabbed someone in the back between 12 and 20 times.

I base this on the fact that the murdered person will never live at all, let alone be free on the streets.

The families of these victims have spent decades waiting for justice. The death penalties were changed to life in prison with the possibility of parole, and never should have been.

They can fry Leslie with my blessing, but they can’t release her with my agreement.

She may or may not have gotten religion in prison. Don’t do the crime if you can’t pay the time.


41 posted on 06/05/2013 6:58:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were Iviolated...)
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To: stinkerpot65

How old are you?

Parole brutal sadistic murder?

Are u nuts?


42 posted on 06/05/2013 6:59:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: jazusamo
I grew up in SoCal right at the perfect age of exposure to the adult world when as a kindergartener I witnessed daily media coverage of both the Manson Family and the Symbionese Liberation Army, among the other ghastly events of the early '70s.

The television we had seemed to be continuously running stories about the Manson trials, Patty Hearst, the search for Bill and Emily Harris, the fiery SLA shootout (I saw them burn to death on good old KTTV Channel 11 out of Los Angeles), the final days of Vietnam and the fall of Saigon, creepy European left wing "Red Army" militants setting off bombs everywhere, Black Panthers on the run, President Nixon facing impeachment, and and all the while every single adult I lived around was riveted to all this shockingly-weird violent insanity on the tube. I'd never regarded Arabs as anything but terrorists in ski masks trying to set the world on fire and kill children.

Everywhere I went there were copies of Bugliosi's Helter Skelter with the middle of the book displaying all the shocking pictures of the Manson murder victims, made to seem even more horrifying to my eyes because the murder victims themselves were 'whited-out' in the crime scene photos. Not to mention all the pictures of the dirty violent Manson hippies and their kooky clothes.

I started grade school when all that stuff was reaching it's peak. Just try to imagine. The culture of the early 1970s had imprinted on me as a young child the fact that hippies were dirty creepy people who were to be avoided and that Apollo astronauts were basically the only decent thing in America -- Well, them and girls who looked like Marcia Brady.

Piss on Leslie Van Houten for what she did. California better never let her out of jail. In fact, when she dies in prison, there needs to be a rule that they bury her body right out there in the prison courtyard. Only thing I can say positive about her is that she helped make me a conservative at a very young age. I swore that when I grew up to be an adult, the first thing I was going to do was buy a gun. So, for that, Leslie, thanks. You dirty evil bitch.

43 posted on 06/05/2013 7:00:07 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: bmwcyle
Doesn’t some liberal college need teachers?

Is Obama looking to hire?

44 posted on 06/05/2013 7:00:35 PM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: atc23

I hate to say it to a kinsman but

NUTS!


45 posted on 06/05/2013 7:00:36 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: SkyPilot

“but she is no longer a threat”

Neither are Leno and Rosemary LaBianca .


46 posted on 06/05/2013 7:00:49 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (President Obma; The Slumlord of the Rentseekers)
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To: SkyPilot

A) whether she is a threat is irrelevant
B) whether gang bangers get off easier is also irrelevant, the balance is restored by hanging them, not letting a murderer go free
C) She can’t live long enough to “pay her debt”. The debt cannot be paid. It’s about retribution and punishment-see (A)


47 posted on 06/05/2013 7:03:27 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: stinkerpot65

I concur that 44 years in prison is enough time served by Leslie Van Houten (I am NOT in favor of letting Tex Watson out). Criminals who have done far worse get out in much less time on “good behavior”. She has been very helpful to the other prisoners and the warden and members of the LaBianca family have supported her parole (she was not at the Tate murders). If she’s let out, she’ll be close to 70 and no threat to anyone.


48 posted on 06/05/2013 7:03:54 PM PDT by laconic
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To: slouper; SkyPilot

From what I’ve read she is the most repentant of the “family”. That one who died about a year ago, what was her name? Was it Susan? She was the worst of the bunch.

Thing is if she was released I wonder how she’d ever redeem herself?


49 posted on 06/05/2013 7:04:51 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: DoughtyOne; smoothsailing

That’d work for me but they had their chance and blew it, as smoothsailing wrote, “let the witch rot.”


50 posted on 06/05/2013 7:05:23 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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