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IRS employees: Washington IRS official Carter Hull oversaw targeting of conservative groups
daily caller ^ | 6/5 | howley

Posted on 06/06/2013 4:39:17 AM PDT by RummyChick

A Washington IRS attorney named Carter Hull closely oversaw the targeting of conservative nonprofit groups and suggested questions that IRS employees could ask of conservative and Tea Party groups applying for tax-exempt nonprofit status, according to interviews that two IRS employees gave with congressional investigators.

“I was essentially a front person, because I had no autonomy or no authority to act on [applications] without Carter Hull’s influence or input,” said Elizabeth Hofacre, an employee of the Cincinnati IRS office, according to a new report in the Wall Street Journal.

Hofacre’s office, which oversaw tax-exempt applications, reportedly requested help from the agency’s Exempt Organizations Technical unit in Washington, D.C. in 2010 to deal with an influx of new applications from Tea Party groups.

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1 posted on 06/06/2013 4:39:17 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

DC Carter Hull is the one that targeted Marianne Chifelle’s breakfasts
among others with HIS letter
http://media.aclj.org/pdf/irs-letter-from-washington-dc-office-unredacted.pdf


2 posted on 06/06/2013 4:42:50 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

The fragment of the memo posted at the DC isn’t particularly damning, though — it requests a copy of bylaws, financial statements, and publications. I don’t know how routine that is for this type of filing, but it doesn’t match up to the multiple reports of excessive intrusion (content of prayers, names of attendees including minors, etc.).


3 posted on 06/06/2013 4:44:31 AM PDT by kevkrom (Obama: less class than Bill Clinton)
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To: RummyChick

Looks like the Obama Administration has found its sacrificial lamb.


4 posted on 06/06/2013 4:44:53 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: RummyChick

Who is Marianne Chifelle??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq0d7an6lk8
A little old lady tea partier.


5 posted on 06/06/2013 4:45:45 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Rocky

He will point a finger to a higher up.


6 posted on 06/06/2013 4:46:19 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: RummyChick

7 posted on 06/06/2013 4:46:35 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: kevkrom

I suggest you actually read the pdf file and you might change your mind


8 posted on 06/06/2013 4:47:19 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Obama ordered his IRS to rig the election of 2012 for Obama and democrats/socialists in the Senate. Obama also used other gov agencies to rig the election. Why isn’t anyone shouting this form the rooftops? Come on Levin, coulter , Sarah Palin, Rush, DRudge etc. call Obama out on this and call for Obama’s resignation.

Obama’s IRS prevented many tea party groups from getting started and also audited individual donors to Romney and to the Republican party. The IRS stole the election. We no longer live in a free country

“Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) said Thursday his constituents have suggested they were audited by the Internal Revenue Service because they donated to Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign. ....”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3023043/posts


9 posted on 06/06/2013 4:47:42 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: RummyChick; maggief; thouworm; penelopesire; onyx; SE Mom

Drip. Drip. Drip!


10 posted on 06/06/2013 4:49:47 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: RummyChick

What did Obama know and when did he know it?

Obama ordered and so knew of it.


11 posted on 06/06/2013 4:49:52 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: RummyChick

What did Obama know and when did he know it?

Obama ordered the targetimg of tea party groups and so knew of it.liberals are not going to do anything unless their master tells them to


12 posted on 06/06/2013 4:51:27 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: RummyChick
"Carter Hull (202) 622-8031
IRC 501 (c)(4) Organizations Internal Revenue Service

IRC 501 (c)(4) Organizations Internal Revenue Service - pdf
By John Francis Reilly, Carter C. Hull, and Barbara A. Braig Allen.
discusses issues relating to the tax-exempt status under IRC

==> The pdf article appears to have just been pulled

13 posted on 06/06/2013 4:56:14 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Rocky
Anyone got a photo of Carter Hull?

...just wondering if he fit any particular profile...

14 posted on 06/06/2013 4:56:31 AM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: Democrat_media
83 year old Marianne's coloring book for kids

15 posted on 06/06/2013 4:56:51 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: All

this guy could benefit from a few visits by the prison dentist.


16 posted on 06/06/2013 4:58:19 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Diogenesis

you can get it in google cache


17 posted on 06/06/2013 5:02:07 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: ptsal

Was he named after that outstanding President James Earl Carter?


18 posted on 06/06/2013 5:03:09 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Diogenesis; RummyChick

Is this the document you want - link is on daily caller article

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/eotopicf95.pdf


19 posted on 06/06/2013 5:04:50 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: nascarnation

carter hull supposedly has a facebook page


20 posted on 06/06/2013 5:06:09 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

21 posted on 06/06/2013 5:09:19 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: kevkrom
To address that specific question, any applicant for either nonprofit postage rates OR tax exemption, will first need to establish that he is applying for an organization that really exists.

If you're a church, where's your bulletin? If you're a school, where's the classrooms?

People who work in this environment every day know there are scammers out there, so many of these questions are designed to elicit honest useful responses.

Others aren't ~ and in the case of IRS there seem to have been some newer questions that probably should never have been asked ~ looking over some of the complaints it's almost like someone forgot that IRS isn't the FEC ~ and that would be Lois Lerner and maybe an assistant or two she brought over from the FEC.

She's going to go to jail ~ with her friends.

22 posted on 06/06/2013 5:10:42 AM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: RummyChick

I thought there were only two rogue agents? < /snurk>


23 posted on 06/06/2013 5:13:50 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: newnhdad

ACK’!! Ya think? Maybe a toothbrush too. Or lay off the coffee.


24 posted on 06/06/2013 5:14:41 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: RummyChick

I have looked at the pic of Hull’s home. It is a middle income type house..except it is in MD so I have no idea what it is really worth


25 posted on 06/06/2013 5:15:24 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Democrat_media
The IRS stole the election.

Complete and total BS! The inside-the-beltway, GOP elites stole the election by doing everything they could to pimp an uninspiring, libtard RINO while smacking down conservatives and the tea party candidates. The pols who feared the tea party the most during the last election cycle are not the RATs from the Northeast, DC, or Left Coast, but career Republicans and their groupies like McLame, Graham, NcConnell, Boner, Rove, and Coulter. Indeed, many of the conservative groups that the IRS targeted are from solid Red States that Romney won easily.

Ask yourself this: Why have McLame, Graham, NcConnell, and Boner been remarkably low key about the IRS scandal? Answer: Because they have more to fear from the Tea Party during the primaries, than the RATs in the general election.

26 posted on 06/06/2013 5:16:44 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Democrat_media
What did Obama know and when did he know it?

He knew he had an enemy to destroy when he flew over the 1st tea party protest at the Capitol, in Marine One.

27 posted on 06/06/2013 5:18:02 AM PDT by mware
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To: autumnraine

and trim his nose hairs before Gramps gets hauled before Congress.

Zillow says his house is worth 305,000 so it’s not like he is in the big wig super rich category of Govt employees.


28 posted on 06/06/2013 5:18:04 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Democrat_media
IRS publishes a report every year. One of the topics concerns the probability of people at various income levels to get audited. Romney's friends should be up there in the 9% chance and higher.

I doubt any of his friends appear in the most heavily audited group ~ those claiming EITC ~ that's 30%!

Not that Romney's donors don't have a complaint, but rich folks do get audited more frequently than all but the poorest folks ~ and as you know I disagree with this practice.

Time to eliminate all this personal contact with the taxpaying public ~ and the way to do that is to abolish the federal income tax, and to do that we must rescind the 16th amendment.

29 posted on 06/06/2013 5:18:32 AM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: RummyChick; All

BTTT!


30 posted on 06/06/2013 5:18:49 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: RummyChick
When you look at the dates of the letters, it took about a year and a half to get back to the group and the questions became much more intrusive compared to the first letter. When the first letter was written in April 2010, the Tea Party movement was just beginning. By Nov 2011, it had become a potent political force. No doubt, this is the reason for the persecution and harassment of the group. Chilling stuff.

Being somewhat familiar with the C3 and C4 process, the first letter is more standard. The second one is off the charts.

31 posted on 06/06/2013 5:19:07 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Democrat_media
Last post with corrections (I need more coffee):

The IRS stole the election.

Complete and total BS! The inside-the-beltway, GOP elites stole the election by doing everything they could to pimp an uninspiring, libtard RINO while smacking down conservatives and the tea party candidates. The pols who feared the tea party the most during the last election cycle are not the RATs from the Northeast, DC, or Left Coast, but career Republicans and their groupies like McLame, Graham, McConnell, Boner, Rove, and Coulter. Indeed, many of the conservative groups that the IRS targeted are from solid Red States that Romney won easily.

Ask yourself this: Why have McLame, Graham, McConnell, and Boner been remarkably low key about the IRS scandal? Answer: Because they have more to fear from the Tea Party during the primaries, than the RATs in the general election.

32 posted on 06/06/2013 5:19:21 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: RummyChick

is he promoted yet?


33 posted on 06/06/2013 5:20:03 AM PDT by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: Labyrinthos

We’ve heard about the leftwingtards asking for TEAParty audits, but what about McCain, and even Romney’s campaign aids ~ were they attacking Republicans?


34 posted on 06/06/2013 5:21:58 AM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: Labyrinthos

Oh good. Let’s blame the Republicans for this.


35 posted on 06/06/2013 5:22:01 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: kabar

We had intrusive questions when our HOA filed years ago ~ we didn’t have a street address ~ we’d rented a PO Box. I’d need to see the addresses these people used to see if that was a factor.


36 posted on 06/06/2013 5:24:15 AM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: ladyjane
Romney wasn't a real Republican. He left the party with his father way back when.

He also used dirty tricks in he primaries. I think it's a fair question to ask who he sicced IRS on.

37 posted on 06/06/2013 5:25:35 AM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: RummyChick

Good find. Thanks for post.

Daylight is a strong disinfectant. It will take a while for the smell uncovered to be cleansed.


38 posted on 06/06/2013 5:27:10 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Democrat_media
There is no question that most, if not every federal agency was an arm of the Obama reelection campaign. Consider the IRS, FBI, ATF and OSHA attacks on True the Vote. These agencies are under various cabinet secretaries, and they could only have been coordinated by the White House.

If we give this outrage a pass, it will green light future oppression of groups that oppose rat regimes.

We might as well deed the White House keys to the DNC and not bother with elections; they will be a waste of time, a bigger waste than the last one.

39 posted on 06/06/2013 5:27:40 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Labyrinthos
The IRS and the news media(democrats too) corrupted the Republican primary too as well as the election. the IRS has been shutting down tea party groups and Republican groups since 2010. you seek to defend the IRS and Obama. what you do is unconscionable.In fact the news media has the most power so the buck stops with the media and Obama and the media's failure to call out Obama
40 posted on 06/06/2013 5:30:34 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Labyrinthos
The IRS and the news media(democrats too), and just about every other Obama gov agency corrupted the Republican primary too as well as the 2012 election. the IRS has been shutting down tea party groups and Republican groups since 2010. you seek to defend the IRS and Obama. what you do is unconscionable.In fact the news media has the most power so the buck stops with the media and Obama and the media's failure to call out Obama
41 posted on 06/06/2013 5:31:57 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

Notice that it took a low level employee to finger Carter Hull.

Why couldn’t someone investigating this at the IRS have told us this..you know..like those that have already appeared before the committee???


42 posted on 06/06/2013 5:32:31 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Valerie Jarrett.

5.56mm

43 posted on 06/06/2013 5:32:51 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Jacquerie

Yes all you say is very true


44 posted on 06/06/2013 5:33:27 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: RummyChick

Now we’re getting somewhere!


45 posted on 06/06/2013 5:39:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RummyChick
How can anyone be talking “pass”? Crimes have been committed. Obama and the IRS personnel involved are engaged in a treasonous criminal conspiracy. You can call it politics, but I am ready for a revolution. I cannot have my children living in a Country that accepts any part of this lawlessness.
46 posted on 06/06/2013 5:40:27 AM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: ladyjane
Good call.
47 posted on 06/06/2013 5:42:38 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

Unfortunately, it is starting to look that way.
The question is: what can we do about it?
Demanding the man’s resignation won’t have any effect, if he deliberately interfered in the organization of the opposition for two years prior to the election.


48 posted on 06/06/2013 5:44:26 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Travis McGee

Carter Hull is about to have a very bad day.

But will probably end up with a promotion


49 posted on 06/06/2013 5:45:09 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Democrat_media

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/carolplattliebau/2013/06/06/who-is-carter-hull-n1614319
He is a graduate of a private Quaker school — and I would guess from his age and his attendance at a private boarding/day school that he attended boarding school back in an era when that experience was largely reserved for young people from fairly affluent circumstances.

This is also a person obviously of some experience and knowledge with the tax law, who would have clearly known the targeting operation was wrong.


50 posted on 06/06/2013 5:46:07 AM PDT by RummyChick
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