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Truck Driver Nearly Beaten to Death By Police For Not Signing Traffic Ticket
http://www.youtube.com ^ | 5/13/13 | rambone5

Posted on 06/06/2013 7:53:06 AM PDT by Student0165

A truck driver was beaten by a CHP cop because he refused to sign a traffic ticket before reading it. CHP initially charged him with DUI and driving over hours - both charges were later dropped.

Cops boss says citizens could avoid this if they will simply "comply" with orders when stopped.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: abuse; beat; chp; police; sourcetitlenoturl
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1 posted on 06/06/2013 7:53:06 AM PDT by Student0165
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To: Student0165

Sorry - I thought the video link would post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6lcYTJx9Y1c


2 posted on 06/06/2013 7:53:38 AM PDT by Student0165
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To: Student0165

If you just do what they say, when they say, they won’t beat you. What a deal!! To protect and serve.


3 posted on 06/06/2013 7:55:12 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Student0165

In Texas you are not required to sign the ticket. They ask but you can refuse. Your signature is merely an agreement to appear in court so if you don’t sign it only means they can/cannot file a Failure to Appear if you do/don’t.


4 posted on 06/06/2013 7:55:20 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Student0165

It is an American Ethic not to comply with dictators.


5 posted on 06/06/2013 7:56:00 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Student0165

F&^%$ them. I’m not taking orders from anyone.


6 posted on 06/06/2013 7:56:23 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: BipolarBob

7 posted on 06/06/2013 7:58:10 AM PDT by relictele (A place dedicated to economic, racial and social equality. It was called Jonestown.)
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8 posted on 06/06/2013 7:58:10 AM PDT by relictele (A place dedicated to economic, racial and social equality. It was called Jonestown.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
In Texas you are not required to sign the ticket. They ask but you can refuse. Your signature is merely an agreement to appear in court so if you don’t sign it only means they can/cannot file a Failure to Appear if you do/don’t.

In West Virginia back in the 1980's if you refused to sign the ticket, you were escorted straight to the closest courthouse and a magistrate either heard the case immediately or ordered you to appear on a certain date. I've heard the law has been changed so essentially it doesn't matter if you sign or not, the Officer just notes on the ticket that you refused to sign, but you are still legally bound to pay the ticket or dispute it in court.

9 posted on 06/06/2013 8:01:02 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

Texas does give the officer the option of instander and taking you immediately to a judge. In my 14 years I only did that once. Just note they did not sign.


10 posted on 06/06/2013 8:03:21 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: BipolarBob
* If you just do what they say, when they say, they won’t beat you *

Kinda sounds like a wifebeater’s defense....

11 posted on 06/06/2013 8:06:34 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Student0165
Zen fascists will control you
100% natural
You will jog for the master race
And always wear the happy face
Close your eyes, can't happen here
Big bro' on white horse is near
The hippies won't come back you say
Mellow out or you will pay

California über alles
über alles California

12 posted on 06/06/2013 8:07:40 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

The case should be sent to the DA for prosecution of the officers.


13 posted on 06/06/2013 8:09:29 AM PDT by barney10
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To: Student0165

I have to commend the two cops for one thing. They tried to say salt was an illegal drug but at least they didn’t plant any real drugs on this guy.


14 posted on 06/06/2013 8:10:23 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Student0165

I watched the youtube video and it made me sick! Broken orbit, broken ribs, broken arm, concussion, knocked unconscious, possible neurological damage as a result of oxygen deprivation,... they almost beat him to death. I hope the man sues and before anyone jumps on me about taxpayers and such... I believe the police will continue to hire and protect these animals UNLESS it starts costing money. Money is the great motivator IMHO. When a police department has to answer for the payouts... they’ll change (or at least I hope so)


15 posted on 06/06/2013 8:13:01 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree

“When a police department has to answer for the payouts... they’ll change”

Or the thug officers will learn to escalate their brutality and not leave any witnesses.

Just sayin !


16 posted on 06/06/2013 8:16:35 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Student0165

Off you djuzt follow Der Rules Untermenschen, you vil NOT be Beat - !!hard.


17 posted on 06/06/2013 8:22:01 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: Student0165

This is so breathtakingly evil that words escape me. Andrew Murril belongs in the penitentiary with a horny cellmate who will teach him the meaning of brutality!

The spokesman for the disgraced CHP comes across as an ignorant and evasive fool.

Like most government agencies, the CHP needs a thorough housecleaning and a definite reduction in the number of cops. Too many cops with too much time on their hands and a violent streak a mile wide.


18 posted on 06/06/2013 8:22:05 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

That’s the case in Florida. I expect it is in most states.

Still, one is entitled to *read* it before signing. Although the few tickets I’ve gotten over many years were all completely illegible.


19 posted on 06/06/2013 8:22:13 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Student0165
Cops boss says citizens could avoid this if they will simply "comply" with orders when stopped.

Translation = Do whatever we tell you and we won't kick your A$$!
20 posted on 06/06/2013 8:24:18 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: Student0165

has anything happened to the officer and the police involved?


21 posted on 06/06/2013 8:24:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: momtothree

The tax payers are complicit if they indirectly hired and paid these thugs. Hit them in the pocket book until they scream for this stuff to stop.


22 posted on 06/06/2013 8:24:46 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: George from New England

Good thing he did not have a dog with him...


23 posted on 06/06/2013 8:31:23 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: Student0165

If the truck driver were a protected minority with the proper melanin content, cities would be burning by now...


24 posted on 06/06/2013 8:32:34 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Student0165

Back in the day a girl who lived down the road from me and who would sleep with anything would have cops comimg and going all hours and they would let her brothers tear down the road at high speed.

I happened to be driving a car that I had just had an accident in 2 months before, it had flipped over. It wouldn’t go over 35 without shaking furiously. I had taken my son to the library and he got sick so I was taking him home. I was going the speed limit and stopped at a stop sign behind an officer. I came to my stop and proceeded and he immediately did a U-turn and stopped me. I asked him why he stopped me and he got snotty saying I was going 75 in a 20. I told him I was not and the car couldn’t go 75 if I begged it to. He pulled out his ticket book, took my registration and license and wrote me a ticket. I told him my son was ill and just give me the ticket so I can go. He said I could go when he said so.

He went to his car and was checking when I got a call from a friend who had a scanner. He heard the officer call it in and told me the cop had called me a bi*ch. When the cop came back to my car and told me to sign the ticket I said I was going to be a bi*ch and not sign. He got a strange look on his face and then he had an epiphany. I asked him how he liked the prostitute down the road from me and I said I had seen him many times and that I did not appreciate being called a bi*ch. I also told him he can shove the ticket where the sun don’t shine. He handed me the ticket. Before he walked away my son put his head out the window and threw-up nailing the cops pantleg. I looked at him and said “told you he was sick”. I’m surprised I wasn’t shot!

I went to court and he never showed up. The judge heard my side and asked me what I wanted to do. I told him I wanted to go home and he told me to have a nice day. :)


25 posted on 06/06/2013 8:33:21 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: TalonDJ

The cops don’t care about fines as they don’t pay them themselves. The law should be that any brutality case settlement should be paid out of the offending officers pocket. THAT would bring an end to this stuff. Until then the cops just laugh at us.


26 posted on 06/06/2013 8:33:25 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: driftdiver

Is that worthy of commendation—whether or not they beat an innocent man within an inch of his life during the incident?


27 posted on 06/06/2013 8:34:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Student0165

Ping


28 posted on 06/06/2013 8:35:16 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Kinda sad when two cops can’t control a much smaller guy without this level of force.

They probably could but my guess is they didnt even try.

Obey or we’ll break your arm. Heck he’s lucky they didnt shoot him.


29 posted on 06/06/2013 8:37:19 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ForAmerica

Sieg HEIL!!!!


30 posted on 06/06/2013 8:39:12 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: Mr. K

Looks like the bastard is still at work, getting paid by taxpayer dollars, protected by a court appointed attorney paid by tax payer dollars, enjoying future benefits paid for with tax payer dollars while he is free to beat up or kill more taxpayers.

What is more frightening than this beast Murril, is his NAZI Gestapo Boss protecting and justifying his action.

The ENTIRE UNIT of cops operating out of that patrol headquarters should be fired.


31 posted on 06/06/2013 8:41:54 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: Student0165

This guy is old enough to have remembered living in the Soviet Union. I wonder how feels now that he realizes the Soviet Union is here?


32 posted on 06/06/2013 8:43:41 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Student0165

And people wonder why some of us hate cops?


33 posted on 06/06/2013 8:44:52 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: BipolarBob

Yep, just be a good little peasant and you will be fine. Until they invent a reason to come break down your doors.


34 posted on 06/06/2013 8:45:08 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: mardi59
Five Staties tried a similar stunt with me back in the '70's. They would have been better off if they'd killed me. I eventually made sure every one of them received an object lesson in not urinating upon their Oath. Four of them were even dealt with in Court.

None of them got off scot free, and all of them would probably handle the same situation differently, knowing what they do now.

Sometimes it just isn't worth the brief momentary gratification if the result is a lifetime of misery. Every American citizen has a God-given right to show the authorities that they stand to gain nothing by misbehaving. Be sure to disincentivise bad police behavior, and eventually they'll stop once it's no longer fun to play that game.

You not only can fight City Hall, you are obligated to do so if you're an American. The truth is, you can kick the wheezing snot out of City Hall, as long as you do it one now-retired overweight swine at a time.

LMFWSCAO!!!

:^)

35 posted on 06/06/2013 8:46:26 AM PDT by Gargantua (America's starting to smell like a steaming pile of Obama.)
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To: barney10

But the CHP’s internal investigation cleared the cop. Isn’t that enough? /sarc


36 posted on 06/06/2013 8:46:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Student0165

Was there a dash cam video or was it conveniently out of order?


37 posted on 06/06/2013 8:46:35 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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 photo fife.png A police state is a happy state...
38 posted on 06/06/2013 8:48:16 AM PDT by baddog 219
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“If you just do what they say, when they say, they won’t beat you. “

What if you’re Russian like this man, and don’t know English????/s;)


39 posted on 06/06/2013 8:51:45 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: clamper1797

IIRC the state is exempt from law suits but the cops ar not. If you name the cop the state can refuse to idemnify them if they were acting in an extreme manner or outside the scope of their duties.

IMO these were acting inside the scope of their duties and the department will cover any award.

I believe punitive damages cannot be paid by the state.

The state can also discipline/fire the officers regardless of what happens in court.

The two should be on administrative leave while undergoing an internal affairs investigation. They are cearly a danger to the public.

My investigation experience ended in 98 when I retired.

Perhaps someone more recent could comment on Cal cases.


40 posted on 06/06/2013 8:52:22 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Your signature is merely an agreement to appear in court so if you don’t sign it only means they can/cannot file a Failure to Appear if you do/don’t.

Well, technically if you don't sign, they can arrest you and take you in for booking. When you sign, you are promising to appear in court, so you are being released on your own recognizance. If you refuse to sign, you are essentially saying you may not show up in court, so they then have the option to book you and force you to post bond to insure that you show up.

41 posted on 06/06/2013 8:52:51 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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“I went to court and he never showed up.”

Had this happen too. The only cops that show up are the ones ‘on the clock’ and getting paid for the time, that comes out of the time they would be on the street. If a cop is retired he would have to respond to the subpoena and accept the insulting payment.

The cop in our case has retired and was never served the subpoena. We were witnesses to the accident and had to drive an hour to this court under threats from the court if we didn’t show.

I contend one of the benefits to the ‘men of blue’ have their subpoenas lost once they retire. Just a courtesy of course.


42 posted on 06/06/2013 8:54:05 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Gargantua

Seven cops lost their jobs not long after this. We saw umpteen police cars at that girls house. They were being investigated for drugs and prostitution.She was arrested along with her mother and apparently she gave names. We laughed until we were to tired to laugh anymore. :)


43 posted on 06/06/2013 8:55:46 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: relictele

Can’t we all just get along?


44 posted on 06/06/2013 8:56:23 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: mardi59

excellent story


45 posted on 06/06/2013 8:58:04 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: George from New England

I was happy to go to court that day. I showed the judge my accident report and the damage done to myself and the car. I had 147 staples in my spine from surgery and would not have driven fast even if I could. I told the judge that the officer had called me a bi*ch and that I told the cop he can shove his ticket. The judge actually laughed at that and the fact that my son had thrown-up on him. The judge apologized and told me to go home and have a nice day.

I was not going to let this officer lie and get away with it.


46 posted on 06/06/2013 9:03:55 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Student0165

Reminds me of a song.

“The way they pull you over it’s suspicious / Yeah, for something that just ain’t your fault / If you complain they’re gonna get vicious / Kick in the teeth and charge you with assault” American Ruse


47 posted on 06/06/2013 9:04:41 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Student0165

As time passes and more and more government employees take up the socialist poison that is our government now, hiring and training decisions are made by statist criminals. The police are increasingly the muscle of the fascist state. ten or twenty years ago I was a big supporter of the police. My eyes are now open. I do not trust the police and I don’t recommend anyone else trust them either. When the SHTF, they will be the ones to drag you in.


48 posted on 06/06/2013 9:22:58 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Student0165

That’s attempted murder.

I didn’t think the USA was that far along in its headlong rush to fascism.

Remember the “land of the free” bull$h!t? That’s all it is bull$h!t.

The cop looks like a SS agent.


49 posted on 06/06/2013 9:25:48 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: I want the USA back

I will not sing The National Anthem and won’t stand up for it because I no longer believe we are “the land of the free”.

Nor do I pledge allegiance to the State.


50 posted on 06/06/2013 9:31:19 AM PDT by Student0165
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