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Kirk to Holder: Is DOJ spying on Congress? (& SCOTUS?)
Washington Examiner ^ | June 6 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 06/06/2013 9:34:44 AM PDT by PghBaldy

“With all due respect, Senator, I don’t think this is an appropriate setting for me to discuss [this issue],” Holder replied during a Senate Appropriations Subcommittee hearing when Sen. Mark Kirk, R-Ill., asked if the executive branch was conducting surveillance that would give “unique leverage” over lawmakers.

Kirk replied that “the correct answer would be no, we stayed within our lane, and we did not spy on Members of Congress.”

Holder assured Kirk that “there is no intention to do anything of that nature — that is, to spy on Members of Congress or to spy on the Supreme Court.”

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I was STUNNED by his answer, and by Kirk asking the questions. WOW!!! I watched it live and was shocked it was not being covered.
1 posted on 06/06/2013 9:34:44 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy
The fact that Holder refused to say 'no' was the same as taking the 5th in my opinion.

Very shocking.

2 posted on 06/06/2013 9:38:06 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: PghBaldy
Holder assured Kirk that “there is no intention to do anything of that nature — that is, to spy on Members of Congress or to spy on the Supreme Court.”

In other words, they are doing just that.

3 posted on 06/06/2013 9:38:10 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: PghBaldy
“With all due respect, Senator, I don’t think this is an appropriate setting for me to discuss [this issue],”

Wow.
4 posted on 06/06/2013 9:38:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PghBaldy

Of course they are - and clearly, they have the goods on Boehner, McCain, Graham, and their ilk.


5 posted on 06/06/2013 9:39:34 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: maggief

that is, to spy on Members of Congress or to spy on the “Supreme Court.”

Why did he add the court? Roberts explained?


6 posted on 06/06/2013 9:40:20 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Of course they are - and clearly, they have the goods on Boehner, McCain, Graham, and their ilk.

Just like J. Edgar did. This is nothing new.

7 posted on 06/06/2013 9:41:11 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: PghBaldy

Weasel words from Holder. The short answer is clearly YES, or else why would he parse?


8 posted on 06/06/2013 9:42:11 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Great tagline.


9 posted on 06/06/2013 9:42:49 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: PghBaldy

J. Eric Holder


10 posted on 06/06/2013 9:42:53 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (President Obma; The Slumlord of the Rentseekers)
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To: cripplecreek

Obama came to power through tough operations research on his political opponents. He was able to dig up dirt on in the sealed divorce records of a people who ran against him. Given the power of the FBI, and other intelligence gatherings agencies, why would it be crazy to think that he is not still doing spying on his opponents? In fact, it is logical to assume that he is.


11 posted on 06/06/2013 9:43:41 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: PghBaldy

Did a Senator or House Rep. say there was a ‘bug’ in the cloakroom? I don’t think he was kidding. You can bet team 0bama was spying on John Roberts like crazy leading up to his 0bamacare decision. Probably got some incriminating bathhouse photos.


12 posted on 06/06/2013 9:44:39 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: PghBaldy
Barrock, help, I need executive privelige again, fast.
13 posted on 06/06/2013 9:45:09 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: PghBaldy

The answer was was meant to intimidate and to plant fear. Holder was saying that you, Congress and SCOTUS, are being watched and any information we have on you can be used any way we want.


14 posted on 06/06/2013 9:45:10 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Timber Rattler

You hit the nail on the head.

DOJ and the Obama Administration are OUT OF CONTROL! They’re worse than a rabid pit bull.


15 posted on 06/06/2013 9:45:13 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: PghBaldy

The palace coup is upon is complete an nobody noticed.


16 posted on 06/06/2013 9:46:02 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: PghBaldy

We are screwed.


17 posted on 06/06/2013 9:46:37 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

He did say words to that effect, but he is very new in office, and backtracked in same interview.


18 posted on 06/06/2013 9:46:47 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy
We all know very well the Obozo and Holder ARE SPYING on both Congress and SCOTUS. We do not need proof - the very proof is in the Admin’s pattern of unaccountable behavior over the past 5 years, which has accelerated since the 2nd term commenced.
19 posted on 06/06/2013 9:47:15 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: PghBaldy
Holder assured Kirk that “there is no intention to do anything of that nature

He should have added *But if it happens, it happens*.

Carefully chosen weasel words and note, he used the word "is" and not was.

Interesting the choice of "is".

20 posted on 06/06/2013 9:47:23 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy......Nuff said.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

J. Eric Withholder

fixed


21 posted on 06/06/2013 9:47:43 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: dirtboy

this just got even bigger - its all about politics and coercion of congress


22 posted on 06/06/2013 9:48:02 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: Vaduz

LOL, very true.


23 posted on 06/06/2013 9:48:55 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (President Obma; The Slumlord of the Rentseekers)
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To: PghBaldy

Depends on what the definition os “spy” is now isn`t it?

There can be no law when the extreme totalitarian left redefine words to suit their ends and means at any particular time and place.

Holder isn`t spying, he may be surveilling , or monitoring, or recording called numbers, but he isn`t a “spy” .

Until the dumb ass GOP learn the language of the left they will always not ask the specific correct questions and get specific answers .


24 posted on 06/06/2013 9:49:43 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (t ask the BIG question,)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; All

J. Edgar would have loved working for Obama..


25 posted on 06/06/2013 9:49:47 AM PDT by KevinDavis (The Bill of Rights is a suicide pact.)
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To: Kristin; maggief; holdonnow; penelopesire; onyx; hoosiermama

This is truly shocking. But not surprising. He didn’t say No ..Never.

No wonder he’s not ready to leave. .


26 posted on 06/06/2013 9:50:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: PghBaldy
I'm not. bear shit in woods photo: bear in woods bear-shit-in-woods.jpg
27 posted on 06/06/2013 9:50:35 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: PghBaldy
Drudge has this headline photo. Is that a homo/sodomy marriage ring on his right hand?


28 posted on 06/06/2013 9:51:36 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: PghBaldy

Mark Kirk? He’s a rat mole... What would he be doing squeezing Holder?
Whew, is my spidey sense ever tingling.
I smell a diversion wrapped in a spin cycle and sprinkled with lies coming out of this hearing.


29 posted on 06/06/2013 9:51:52 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SE Mom

He did say he had a lot more to do.


30 posted on 06/06/2013 9:51:55 AM PDT by surrey
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To: PghBaldy

Holder saying ‘there was no intention’ indicates to me it has happened and may be continuing to happen. If it has not, then Holder easily could have said so.


31 posted on 06/06/2013 9:52:33 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: The Cajun

Do we need to refer to Bill for the proper definition of “is”?


32 posted on 06/06/2013 9:52:49 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: crosslink

Might be why Roberts changed his vote on obammacare?


33 posted on 06/06/2013 9:53:24 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Cheerio

I am pretty much speechless at this point.


34 posted on 06/06/2013 9:53:34 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: cripplecreek

The strange quiet that came from the White House prior to the Supreme Court’s Mengelecare ruling last year is starting to make sense.


35 posted on 06/06/2013 9:54:07 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PghBaldy
The steady Drip Drip Drip is picking up speed.

Methinks the "O" ring in this plumbing is about to completely give.

Quick, call Joe the Plumber - he'll get the laast laugh when it does.

36 posted on 06/06/2013 9:54:18 AM PDT by IrishPennant (Excuse me...Here's your nose. I found it in my business....agian!)
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To: Lancey Howard

Sometimes things are just what they appear to be. If this is a diversion, it is mighty stupid.


37 posted on 06/06/2013 9:54:31 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: newfreep

It’s the mirrored reflection of his left hand, Einstein.


38 posted on 06/06/2013 9:54:31 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: BuckeyeTexan
FYI : SCOTUS ping--- Holder uncharacteristically volunteers info beyond the question. Adds "SCOTUS."
39 posted on 06/06/2013 9:54:47 AM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: newfreep

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/


40 posted on 06/06/2013 9:56:37 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: IrishPennant

Someone...anyone...do something about these criminals. America deserves justice.


41 posted on 06/06/2013 9:57:23 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: rawhide
That's exactly what I'm thinking.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

42 posted on 06/06/2013 9:59:08 AM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: PghBaldy

uhhh....Holder brought up “spying on the Supreme Court” on his own as part of his sort-of denial. Sure does make one wonder about Roberts’ nation-destroying vote for Obamacare, doesn’t it?


43 posted on 06/06/2013 9:59:18 AM PDT by grania
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To: rawhide

Yes, my point, could be the spooks are about to leak more information that will point to this and both Kirk, the dem plant, and Holder are trying to get ahead of it just like the IRS press confrence.


44 posted on 06/06/2013 9:59:22 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: rawhide

Is there a connection between this IRS, monitoring phone calls and the admitted tapping of McConnels office phone in the Senate Office Bldg? It fits.


45 posted on 06/06/2013 9:59:26 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

I would take this answer as a “yes”, the DOJ is spying on members of Conress and the US Supreme Court. This would also offer an Occam’s Razor explanation for Justice Roberts otherwise unexpected vote to uphold Obozocare. It may also provide some fodder to guess why idiots such as Boehner, Cantor and McConnell maintain complete silence as the many unconstitutional, treasonous, impeachable offenses multiply. Of course, they’d have to be dirty enough to provide blackmail material, but that’s hardly a surprise with any of the lot of them.


46 posted on 06/06/2013 10:00:36 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: PghBaldy

This would absolutely explain the lack of willingness of any of our so called “representatives” to actively take on anything this administration has been involved in. Our government has been completely compromised IMO.


47 posted on 06/06/2013 10:01:12 AM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: PghBaldy

Kirk had a “wait a minute...this could be US!” moment that they normally prevent legislatively, like with Obamacare. Now that he could be part of the violation of rights, it matters to him.


48 posted on 06/06/2013 10:02:04 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: crosslink

amazing how this all starts to fall into place


49 posted on 06/06/2013 10:03:06 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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