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U.S. Collects Vast Data Trove (Major Phone Companies, Credit Cards, Online Activity)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Thursday, June 6, 2013 | Siobhan Gorman, Evan Perez and Janet Hook

Posted on 06/06/2013 5:53:04 PM PDT by kristinn

The National Security Agency's monitoring of Americans includes customer records from the three major phone networks as well as emails and Web searches, and the agency also has cataloged credit-card transactions, said people familiar with the agency's activities.

The disclosure this week of an order by a secret U.S. court for Verizon Communications Inc.'s phone records set off the latest public discussion of the program. But people familiar with the NSA's operations said the initiative also encompasses phone-call data from AT&T Inc. and Sprint Nextel Corp., records from Internet-service providers and purchase information from credit-card providers.

The agency is using its secret access to the communications of millions of Americans to target possible terrorists, said people familiar with the effort.

The NSA's efforts have become institutionalized—yet not so well known to the public—under laws passed in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Most members of Congress defended them Thursday as a way to root out terrorism, but civil-liberties groups decried the program.

"Everyone should just calm down and understand this isn't anything that is brand new,'' said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.), who added that the phone-data program has "worked to prevent'' terrorist attacks.

Senate Intelligence Chairman Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.) said the program is lawful and that it must be renewed by Congress every three months. She said the revelation about Verizon, reported by the London-based newspaper the Guardian, seemed to coincide with its latest renewal.

Civil-liberties advocates slammed the NSA's actions. "The most recent surveillance program is breathtaking. It shows absolutely no effort to narrow or tailor the surveillance of citizens," said Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University.

The arrangement with the country's three largest phone companies means that every time the majority of Americans makes a call, NSA

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1 posted on 06/06/2013 5:53:04 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

WHERE IS THE RECIPROCITY ???????????


2 posted on 06/06/2013 5:58:30 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping!


3 posted on 06/06/2013 5:58:52 PM PDT by basil (basil --Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: kristinn

New info in this piece. .Sprint and AT&T included with Verizon.


4 posted on 06/06/2013 6:02:13 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: kristinn

I wonder how all this helped prevent the Boston bombing...? Oh wait,,it didn’t


5 posted on 06/06/2013 6:02:15 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: kristinn
I thought 0bama in last week's speech said the war on terror was over. Now why would...oh, never mind...

5.56mm

6 posted on 06/06/2013 6:04:03 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: kristinn

They should just throw all that stuff out. Tamerlan and Jokar eluded it without even trying.


8 posted on 06/06/2013 6:06:37 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Diogenesis

Yeah! If the NSA has been gathering every bit of information about us, where’s Traitorobama’s real birth certificate?

(Satan’s daughter must have a copy.)


9 posted on 06/06/2013 6:07:34 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: SE Mom

This all just torques the heck outta me.

We’ve totally lost our gubbamint.


10 posted on 06/06/2013 6:08:15 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: kristinn
Dear Congress,

Defund or shut up.

Your obedient servant,
BilltheDrill

11 posted on 06/06/2013 6:08:20 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: kristinn

At this point, I’m pretty sure there is an NSA bug in my toilet pipe.


12 posted on 06/06/2013 6:12:22 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: kristinn

At this point, I’m pretty sure there is an NSA bug in my toilet pipe.


13 posted on 06/06/2013 6:12:23 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: servantboy777

We’re in a crisis like I’ve never seen.


14 posted on 06/06/2013 6:17:21 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: kristinn

Joe Nacchio


15 posted on 06/06/2013 6:17:33 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: kristinn

Welcome to Communism.


16 posted on 06/06/2013 6:20:50 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: kristinn
The agency is using its secret access to the communications of millions of Americans to target possible terrorists, said people familiar with the effort.

Monitoring the activities of 300,000,000 domestic terrorists is quite an undertaking.

17 posted on 06/06/2013 6:21:03 PM PDT by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: SE Mom

Americans still feel like they have too much to lose.

This almost feels like these people are just eggin the people to react.


18 posted on 06/06/2013 6:21:47 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: kristinn

So they are tracking my credit card purchases on line? I hope they enjoy learning about that new spatula I got from Amazon to replace the one my blender destroyed.


19 posted on 06/06/2013 6:22:52 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: DannyTN

“I’m pretty sure there is an NSA bug in my toilet pipe.”

Oh please let there be one in mine!! I give them about a pound of new intelligence on me every morning!!
I hope they enjoy analyzing it!!


20 posted on 06/06/2013 6:25:31 PM PDT by rikkir (Islam is evil...There, that should get DOJ interested in my cell phone!)
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To: La Lydia

Respectfully, you should rethink that position.


21 posted on 06/06/2013 6:25:44 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: La Lydia

I just ordered a rose trellis for my garden. I pity anyone who orders a pressure cooker for fall canning.


22 posted on 06/06/2013 6:27:06 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: kristinn

23 posted on 06/06/2013 6:27:31 PM PDT by EBH (The government that sits in Washington, D.C. is not the United States government.)
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To: GraceG

Just crazy when Alex Jones starts to seem like he knows what is going on.
By the way Alex Jones in this kind of message will probably get a ‘FLAG, somewhere.


24 posted on 06/06/2013 6:27:56 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: loungitude

What? I needed a new spatula. Don’t misunderstand me, I think what they are doing is outrageous, and another element of tyranny that characterizes the BO administration. That said, they are going to have to track an awful lot of harmless online shopping while they are spying on us.


25 posted on 06/06/2013 6:28:52 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: kristinn
All this government spying worked out so well at the Boston Marathon, didn't it?

-PJ

26 posted on 06/06/2013 6:29:23 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: mardi59

No kidding. I am even afraid to type that word into my computer.


27 posted on 06/06/2013 6:29:31 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: kristinn

Crazy Maxine Waters is/was right... months ago
Obama has a giant data base of everything on everyone

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/02/08/maxine_waters_obama_has_a_database_on_everything_about_every_individual

Now, was Maxine right in warning that come 2016, obama isn’t planning on leaving office?


28 posted on 06/06/2013 6:29:56 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: All

I wonder how much of this data they used in 2012 election efforts?


29 posted on 06/06/2013 6:31:58 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: La Lydia

I just have a nasty feeling that they are tracking republicans/conservatives. Anyone who dislikes obama and speaks out against him. I feel like I’m living in 1940s Germany.


30 posted on 06/06/2013 6:32:18 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks for the spam. But it does get old after awhile.


31 posted on 06/06/2013 6:33:03 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: mardi59

Of course they are. I am sure they are taking names. Lord help us if we ever end up before one of their death panels. No life-saving medicines for the likes of us.


32 posted on 06/06/2013 6:34:09 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: All

We haven’t had people posing as “trusted newsmen” in our country since 2000 and personally, I haven’t trusted the media since Reagan was president.


33 posted on 06/06/2013 6:34:14 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: servantboy777

They are...trying to evoke a reaction.


34 posted on 06/06/2013 6:34:43 PM PDT by seeker41 (Take back your country before it is too late-STOP islamic expansion in the USA remove zero)
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To: servantboy777

Possibly.

What interests me is the motive of the whistleblowers in both these disclosures. We don’t have information yet on the one who leaked to. The Guardian ..but the one who leaked prism is a career Intel officer who is horrified by where this could lead.

Or...is it the same person ...


35 posted on 06/06/2013 6:34:49 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: La Lydia

Pressure cooker. Pressure cooker. Pressuer cooker.


36 posted on 06/06/2013 6:34:50 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: bgill

:0 :0 :0


37 posted on 06/06/2013 6:35:45 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Then they should also enjoy the info that Amazon screwed up my delivery for a scanner and they have to replace it..


38 posted on 06/06/2013 6:36:18 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: austinaero

Guess what, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R.-S.C.) approves of Obama’s private info. grab. When are South Carolinians gonna vote this goon out of office? I thought South Carolinians were supposedly conservative voters. http://www.kansascity.com/2013/06/06/4277167/sen-graham-dismisses-verizon-surveillance.html


39 posted on 06/06/2013 6:37:04 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: La Lydia

All I can say is if they refuse to save our lives here, we are saved without their help. Our good Lord made sure of that. I have no fear. They are the ones who should be terrified.


40 posted on 06/06/2013 6:37:38 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: kristinn
The spooks have that new underground data facility in Utah with a zillion servers. They gotta fill it up with something.

From what I've read, the spooks are supposedly collecting only metadata from the phone calls. Supposedly NO content.

I wonder if they apply that same standard to emails and web searches?

I sometimes slip and use my credit/debit card instead of cash. NO MORE.

41 posted on 06/06/2013 6:40:15 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: silverleaf

A comment from another site:

“Had this existed in the 1700s, the Founders would have covered It under the 3rd amendment. Our government is literally quartering soldiers in our homes today.”


42 posted on 06/06/2013 6:40:55 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: mardi59

“I just have a nasty feeling that they are tracking republicans/conservatives. Anyone who dislikes obama and speaks out against him. I feel like I’m living in 1940s Germany.”

Everyone. Every day 300 new pages of laws and regulations are added to the Federal Registry. No one has any idea of whether they’ve committed a crime or not. The purpose is so that if you disagree or cause problems, they can find things to hold over your head - serious crimes that total decades in jail.

This is becoming a totalitarian police state.


43 posted on 06/06/2013 6:42:40 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: GraceG

Careful. I posted an article by Jones here and nearly got banned from the site. They view him nearly as bad as the antichrist here.


44 posted on 06/06/2013 6:48:04 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: kristinn

But Obama killed Osama. The war on terror is over// Obama won it//s


45 posted on 06/06/2013 6:49:01 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: SE Mom

“New info in this piece. .Sprint and AT&T included with Verizon.”

This is NOT new info. Sprint AT&T and Verizon have been provding this data since 2001, it has been reported extensively on the internet, including on FR, it has been through at least 4 Federal lawsuits, the Electronic Freedom Foundation has an entire sub-website no the issue.

This monstrosity is the creation of special interest groups who fully own the Republican Party.

There is no escape from this prison, the mere act of typing in English on any website server based in the US, UK, AU, CA, NZ etc is captured in real time.

English is now the language of the slaves of the 21st century.

There is no escape outside of fleeing the modern world and living as a hermit outside the reaches of cell phone towers and satellite surveillance, or if something huge like direct meteor strikes that cause worldwide EMP shockwaves.

Welcome to the prison built with our working lives’ tax dollars that has permanently imprisoned ourselves and our children and childrens’ children.

Welcome to the New America.


46 posted on 06/06/2013 6:50:53 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Black Agnes

That’s a very interesting observation.


47 posted on 06/06/2013 6:51:45 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: La Lydia
So they are tracking my credit card purchases on line? I hope they enjoy learning about that new spatula I got from Amazon to replace the one my blender destroyed.

They may not enjoy it, but your state might should Big Brother decide to share that info with them. Ever heard of use tax?
48 posted on 06/06/2013 6:51:50 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: kristinn

This gets better and better. It’s like someone ‘in the know’ is making it clear to the country that the Tea Party was right about this guy from the getgo.

I wonder if Obama is regretting screwing over the Clintons yet. Maybe it’ll take another half dozen scandals lol


49 posted on 06/06/2013 6:52:50 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: TexGrill

Well over 90% of Republicans running for office in the last 11 years (winners and losers both) have accepted campaign cash from the special interest lobbies that are funded by tax dollars and Treasury debt to build this surveillance apparatus.

Find a Federal politician who hasn’t accepted this money, besides Bernie Sanders. http://www.opensecrets.org


50 posted on 06/06/2013 6:54:03 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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