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House Votes to Defund Obama’s Illegal Executive Order For The DREAM ACT
Gateway Pundit ^ | 6/06/13 | Mara Zebest

Posted on 06/06/2013 6:08:25 PM PDT by blueyon

The House voted to defund Obama’s DREAM policy. Keep in mind that the policy was implemented illegally via executive order. Executive orders are not to be used to implement law. One can only hope that sanity will continue to prevail on the illegal executive orders meant to bypass the laws of this constitutional republic.

Any immigration laws should also be defeated under this political environment.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dreamact; govtabuse; illegals; immigration; mediabias; obama; tyranny
It's about time
1 posted on 06/06/2013 6:08:25 PM PDT by blueyon
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To: blueyon

Almost too good to be true


2 posted on 06/06/2013 6:09:22 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: blueyon

I don’t see the “humor” or “satire” keywords. Is this real?


3 posted on 06/06/2013 6:10:59 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: blueyon

WOO - HOO!!!!!


4 posted on 06/06/2013 6:11:06 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: blueyon

I must be dreaming. Never thought this would happen.


5 posted on 06/06/2013 6:12:34 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: stevio

If so, the House of reps. should begin defunding the IRS, EPA, NSA and all the damn alphabet departments until they get the message.

I can dream can’t I?


6 posted on 06/06/2013 6:12:41 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: blueyon

Can I dare to DREAM that the GOP is taking advantage of the scandals and Obama’s weakness?


7 posted on 06/06/2013 6:14:54 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: blueyon

Obama needs to be sued for all the damage he has done, losses he has caused. His salary and benefits should be defunded.


8 posted on 06/06/2013 6:17:25 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: austinaero
Almost too good to be true

Even better news...

The judge handling the [ICE] case has already indicated that he is likely to rule against the administration.

Meaning the administration will not be allowed to refuse to enforce the law.

9 posted on 06/06/2013 6:21:33 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: blueyon

If true...this could be a sign that the house is going to trash the nation-killing immigration bill the gang of 8 has been working on.


10 posted on 06/06/2013 6:22:35 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: blueyon

Did Boehner take a few days off?


11 posted on 06/06/2013 6:24:23 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: blueyon

So what, exactly, have we defunded? And what are the states going to get stuck with?


12 posted on 06/06/2013 6:25:21 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Peter W. Kessler

Boner is too busy standing in a corner somewhere wiping his eyes.


13 posted on 06/06/2013 6:28:07 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: blueyon

Good. Now defund Obamacare.


14 posted on 06/06/2013 6:29:36 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: blueyon
It sounds good, but will the rat Senate go along? And what does it mean to defund the Dream act executive order?

If Obama's executive order means they are only selectively enforcing immigration, then they are defunding activity that isn't taking place. Aren't they? Obama will simply say, it didn't cost us anything to not enforce immigration, and we will be sure to not do it again.

15 posted on 06/06/2013 6:33:27 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: blueyon

Maybe while they are at it, and being the body from which all bills of revenue must originate, they can cut Robert’s obamneycare “tax” to zero.


16 posted on 06/06/2013 6:36:44 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: All

They can keep voting on it but it won’t go anywhere. They need to shut the place down for a few months..


17 posted on 06/06/2013 6:38:07 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Peter W. Kessler
Did Boehner take a few days off?

Oooo! That's gonna leave a mark! Good one, fine sir!

18 posted on 06/06/2013 6:38:38 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: blueyon

Doesn’t Dear Leader have to sign this?


19 posted on 06/06/2013 6:40:34 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
What??

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20 posted on 06/06/2013 6:42:15 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Doesn’t Dear Leader have to sign this?

* Think I read somewhere that this is an amendment attached to DHS bill & Dingy already said if this language is included, it’s DOA in the Senate.
The House knows this so I’m hoping this is a warning shot across the aisle that Gang of Ocho is also DOA.


21 posted on 06/06/2013 6:47:10 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: blueyon

Interesting... because when I spoke with my reps’ aide today, I was told (misinformed?) there is “nothing Congress can do” in regard to executive orders.


22 posted on 06/06/2013 6:48:59 PM PDT by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Nope. The House has to pass funding. If they don’t, the Senate can’t change that. Hence the phrase “The House holds the purse strings.”


23 posted on 06/06/2013 6:50:51 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: blueyon

A token “save face” move....the Amnesty will be passed in the next two weeks, and this doesn’t mean crap anymore....


24 posted on 06/06/2013 6:54:37 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: DannyTN
It sounds good, but will the rat Senate go along? And what does it mean to defund the Dream act executive order?

I don't think the Senate needs to go along. The House holds the purse strings.

That is my understanding anyway.

25 posted on 06/06/2013 6:57:52 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: KittenClaws
"I don't think the Senate needs to go along. The House holds the purse strings. That is my understanding anyway."

The reason the House is considered to hold the purse strings, is because any spending bill is required by the constitution to originate in the house. But the Senate still has to go along as well as the President before any spending bill becomes law. Unless of course the President's veto is overridden and then the President doesn't matter.

Likewise, any bill to defund, would also need the Senate's approval as well as the President's signature or a veto override.

The vote clearly lets the President know that the House doesn't approve of his dream act executive order. But without the Senate it's nothing more than a nice strongly worded letter.

And I'm still confused about what it means to defund non-enforcement of the law.

26 posted on 06/06/2013 7:05:32 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: blueyon
You all still think there is no difference between the parties?

Maybe we will work to keep the House in Republican hands or do you all want to just let the socialists/democrats have it ALL?

27 posted on 06/06/2013 7:06:42 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: piytar

This was described as a vote to “defund”, implying most likely that the funding was previously approved. In which case the Senate and President’s signature are needed.

The other possibility, is that it’s an appropriation bill, but that does still take the Senate and President’s approval. Without that the entire appropriation bill goes down, and so far the house has been too gutless to shut the government down.


28 posted on 06/06/2013 7:10:49 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Peter W. Kessler

Did Boehner take a few days off?


Yes, I read a story that said Boehner has been outside the beltway doing more fundraising than the kenyan. That makes me nervous.


29 posted on 06/06/2013 7:12:17 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lonevoice

Oh, let it be so.


30 posted on 06/06/2013 7:13:35 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: blueyon
0bama doesn't Give a flyin' f***.. TWO Federal judges have ruled his NLRB 'recess appointments' UNCONSTITUTIONAL but he hasn't budged one inch and won't. A judge ordered 0bama to cease and desist on his illegal oil drilling moratorium but that didn't stop him.

Perhaps this 'PRISM' leak of epic proportions was done by team 0bama today to (not only blame something on Bush) detract from this SLAP DOWN of his illegal executive order.

Now if we can just get Mike Zullo to throw a few more bombshells regarding 0bama's fake bc, or forged ssc, or use of stolen social security number(s), this will be a very baaaaaaaaaaaaad year for 0bama. LOL

Here's a dooooooozy!:

Press release: Shocking new revelation! The same Judge that signed an order allowing search and seizure of phone records of millions of innocent U.S. citizens, refused to allow to include in Obamacare case any evidence showing Obama using all forged and fraudulently obtained IDs

31 posted on 06/06/2013 7:13:41 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: DannyTN

I understood from the article that Obama was making law. Something he can not constitutionally do, so it is invalid and can not get funding.

So why should the senate or the president have any say-so over the house decision not to fund ?


32 posted on 06/06/2013 7:17:18 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: KittenClaws

If Obama is making law, that is unconstitutional. And if Obama is spending funds on something that was not authorized by Congress, that is also unconstitutional. It would be unconstitutional whether or not Congress funded it.

So the house voting to defund something that is unconstitutional has zero effect, as Obama is already in violation of the Constitution and the house vote is unlikely to change it.

If Congress previously passed laws authorizing funds and Obama was using them for his dream act executive order, then the House vote to defund still no effect because it does need the Senate and the President’s signature to modify previously passed law.

Nonetheless, Obama’s executive order directs the executive branch to only selectively enforce the law. In other words, Congress has funded enforcing the law. Obama is not doing it. It doesn’t cost anything to not do something.

So how do you defund non-enforcement of a law, when it didn’t cost anything to not enforce the law in the first place?


33 posted on 06/06/2013 7:32:44 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Hi DannyTN.

You seem to know something about this, so I ask you:

What can the House do to impede, delay or deny funding for Obama’s projects?

His expenditures are targeted to enrich his followers. Limit his money, and they can undercut his support.


34 posted on 06/06/2013 7:40:29 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: DannyTN
Oh! I get what your saying.

And I was falling for it.

Propaganda.

35 posted on 06/06/2013 7:40:45 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: lyby

I would suggest you call again and maybe speak with someone else...
“Congress cannot directly vote to override an executive order in the way they can a veto. Instead, Congress must pass a bill canceling or changing the order in a manner they see fit. The president will typically veto that bill, and then Congress can try to override the veto of that second bill. The Supreme Court can also declare an executive order to be unconstitutional. Congressional cancellation of an order is extremely rare.” http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/preslegpower.htm


36 posted on 06/06/2013 8:24:48 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: tsomer
"What can the House do to impede, delay or deny funding for Obama’s projects?"

I'm not sure I know anything more than the rest of the freepers when it comes to this.

If it's something like the dream act executive order, where Obama's project consists of not doing something (not enforcing immgration laws), I don't know. How do you defund doing nothing? Remedies include going to court to try to force Obama to enforce the law. We won a recent court battle on immigration in Federal court which told Obama that he couldn't selectively enforce the law. Whether that changes Obama's actions, we'll have to see. But ultimately if Obama continues to refuse to enforce, impeachment is the only remedy.

As for other Obama projects where the projects do cost funds. The remedy really depends on the situation.


37 posted on 06/06/2013 8:25:50 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: blueyon

Well, there we have it:

“Congressional cancellation of an order is extremely rare.”

Thus, we can conclude that our representatives have no ba@@s?


38 posted on 06/06/2013 8:28:38 PM PDT by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: blueyon

This must be a joke.
No way do the House Republicans have the spine to tell the African communist punk, “no”.


39 posted on 06/06/2013 8:43:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: lyby

Can’t the Constitutionality of EO’s be challenged by Congress in the SCOTUS? Can the President overturn Federal Law (U.S. Constitution) with impunity? I don’t think so.


40 posted on 06/06/2013 9:46:27 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: lyby

Defunding it is a back door to canceling it.


41 posted on 06/06/2013 9:48:16 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: stevio
I don’t see the “humor” or “satire” keywords.

Onion? :)

42 posted on 06/06/2013 10:44:20 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: TBP

“Good. Now defund Obamacare.”

Amen!


43 posted on 06/07/2013 7:40:01 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: DannyTN

Ooops. You are correct.


44 posted on 06/07/2013 8:25:32 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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