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NSA taps in to internet giants' systems to mine user data, secret files reveal
The Guardian ^ | June 5 2013 | Glenn Greenwald and Ewen MacAskill

Posted on 06/06/2013 6:24:44 PM PDT by Hojczyk

• Top secret PRISM program claims direct access to servers of firms including Google, Facebook and Apple

• Companies deny any knowledge of program in operation since 2007

The National Security Agency has obtained direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants, according to a top secret document obtained by the Guardian.

The NSA access is part of a previously undisclosed program called PRISM, which allows officials to collect material including search history, the content of emails, file transfers and live chats, the document says.

The Guardian has verified the authenticity of the document, a 41-slide PowerPoint presentation – classified as top secret with no distribution to foreign allies – which was apparently used to train intelligence operatives on the capabilities of the program. The document claims "collection directly from the servers" of major US service providers.

Although the presentation claims the program is run with the assistance of the companies, all those who responded to a Guardian request for comment on Thursday denied knowledge of any such program.

In a statement, Google said: "Google cares deeply about the security of our users' data. We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government 'back door' into our systems, but Google does not have a back door for the government to access private user data."

Several senior tech executives insisted that they had no knowledge of PRISM or of any similar scheme. They said they would never have been involved in such a program. "If they are doing this, they are doing it without our knowledge," one said.

An Apple spokesman said it had "never heard" of PRISM.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: fbi; nsa; policestate; prism
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1 posted on 06/06/2013 6:24:44 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Looks like they can blame it on BUSH????


2 posted on 06/06/2013 6:25:19 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Big Brother.


3 posted on 06/06/2013 6:28:51 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Hojczyk

Remember Echelon?


4 posted on 06/06/2013 6:29:05 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Hojczyk
Another thread cites a NYTimes statement as follows:

"The editorial board claimed Obama 'is proving the truism that the executive will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it.'"

The free circulation of ideas in America, with all the technology available today, has the potential for restoring the concepts of individual liberty which so-called "progressives" have censored from the nation's textbooks and public discourse. As in the founding period, with current technology and ability to circulate ideas, the time has come to follow John Adams advice and, "Let every sluice of knowledge be opened and set a-flowing." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

"The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing." - JOHN ADAMS, A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law

"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people, who have a right, from the frame of their nature, to knowledge, as their great Creator, who does nothing in vain, has given them understandings, and a desire to know; but besides this, they have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge, I mean, of the characters and conduct of their rulers." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

"Set before us the conduct of our own British ancestors, who defended for us the inherent rights of mankind against foreign and domestic tyrants and usurpers, against arbitrary kings and cruel priests; in short against the gates of earth and hell." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

"But none of the means of information are more sacred, or have been cherished with more tenderness and care by the settlers of America, than the press. Care has been taken that the art of printing should be encouraged, and that it should be easy and cheap and safe for any person to communicate his thoughts to the public. And you, Messieurs printers, whatever the tyrants of the earth may say of your paper, have done important service to your country by your readiness and freedom in publishing the speculations of the curious. The stale, impudent insinuations of slander and sedition with which the gormandizers of power have endeavored to discredit your paper are so much the more to your honor; for the jaws of power are always opened to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

Here

5 posted on 06/06/2013 6:31:21 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Hojczyk

Duz dis meen dey can fil a buk wif da meny gnu nayms ubama haz amast?


6 posted on 06/06/2013 6:32:50 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: TBP

Remember “Able Danger”? Let’s only hope they run this one as incompetently..


7 posted on 06/06/2013 6:36:48 PM PDT by lwd
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To: Hojczyk

And I would guess that the GCHQ (the UK equivalent agency of the NSA) does the same thing on their side of the pond).


8 posted on 06/06/2013 6:41:22 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Hojczyk

A momentous decision, Roe vs Wade, was made on the basis of the
“Right to privacy”. I assume that the same decision could not
be reached today because there is no right or presumption of
privacy with this endlessly snooping administration.


9 posted on 06/06/2013 6:42:23 PM PDT by Designed
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To: Hojczyk
Bush went after terrorists.

0bama's going after Americans who do not agree with him.

BIG DIFFERENCE! 0bama is "The road to hell" and Bush was "is paved with good intentions" part.

The big question here is, 'Who maintains a master database of names of Americans considered 'domestic terrorists' SIMPLY FOR BEING POLITICALLY CONSERVATIVE?' Is the DHS deriving such a list using the NSA's data on Americans?

10 posted on 06/06/2013 6:53:10 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Hojczyk

The Obama administration has turned its most powerful intelligence systems against the citizens. The government is screwing with the people. The people have had enough. America is a tinderbox tonight. PREDICTION: Government will give ground or it will be very ugly up ahead.


11 posted on 06/06/2013 7:00:13 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Get a special prosecutor right now!!!)
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To: TBP

thanks.. I was trying to remember the name of that program..


12 posted on 06/06/2013 7:02:15 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Hojczyk
Valerie Jarrett.

5.56mm

13 posted on 06/06/2013 7:03:00 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Hojczyk; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

14 posted on 06/06/2013 7:09:40 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: MestaMachine

HAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahaha....we’re all going to have to be talking in code soon...


15 posted on 06/06/2013 7:18:21 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: goodnesswins

Oui kan kawl yt funglish.


16 posted on 06/06/2013 7:26:20 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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This is a diversion.


17 posted on 06/06/2013 7:27:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: null and void

IRONY, I presume?


18 posted on 06/06/2013 7:31:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Rapscallion

One of my favorite songs FOR EVER. And hearing it yet again today was struck by the computer data and gov’t healthcare interactions:

Rush, “2112”:

“We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx
Our great computers fill the hallowed halls.
We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx
All the gifts of life are held within our walls.

Look around this world we made
Equality our stock in trade
Come and join the Brotherhood of Man
Oh what a nice contented world
Let the banners be unfurled
Hold the Red Star proudly high in hand.”

And your post reminds me of that anti-government song from 1969 by Steppenwolf, “Monster”:

“And though the past has its share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But its protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it’s a monster and will not obey

The spirit was freedom and justice
And its keepers seemed generous and kind
Its leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won’t pay it no mind
Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
Now their vote is a meaningless joke.....

...Yeah, there’s a monster on the loose
It’s got our heads into the noose
And it just sits there watchin’....”

...America, where are you now
Don’t you care about your sons and daughters
Don’t you know we need you now
We can’t fight alone against the monster”


19 posted on 06/06/2013 7:38:46 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

ALWAYS!


20 posted on 06/06/2013 7:40:07 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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