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Campus bans guns, tells people to nod at attackers
dailycaller.com ^ | 6-6-2013 | Robby Soave

Posted on 06/06/2013 7:14:14 PM PDT by servo1969

In lieu of guns, people who find themselves in dangerous situations at or near the University of Arkansas should defend themselves by glancing and nodding, said a university safety expert.

Earlier this year, the Arkansas legislature approved a concealed carry law, but gave school administrators permission to override the law and ban guns on campuses. Most Arkansas universities, including the University of Arkansas and Arkansas State University, opted to prohibit concealed carry, according to The College Fix.

But disarmed faculty and staff members are vulnerable to attack when traveling to and from campus, according to a chain of emails sent between UA staff members, one of whom was assaulted by three teenagers on his way to class.

“I had not gone very far before I was attacked from behind by two of them and received a number of blows to the back of my head,” wrote the faculty member, a UA professor of biology, in an e-mail. “Given the proximity to this campus and the fact that a number of our students, faculty and staff walk through this very same area on both a daily and nightly basis I felt it prudent to share this info with you and to advise you to be on your guard while in the vicinity.”

Another faculty remember responded to the email saying that a student had been attacked in the same area.

Sharon Houlette, a detective with the UA Department of Public Safety, responded to the thread with advice for avoiding being attacked, which included a suggestion to “glance or nod” at possible attackers.

“A glance or a nod will help you show anyone who might think that you are not paying attention, and you are aware of their presence,” she wrote.

She also suggested parking on campus and using the trolley system, and offered to host a crime prevention workshop.

But Nic Horton, editor of The Arkansas Project, had a different suggestion for keeping safe on campus.

“If you must step foot on a college campus, choose one that respects your 2nd Amendment rights,” he wrote.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: arkansas; banglist; college; democrats; guncontrol; liberalfascism; liberalism; nod; secondamendment

1 posted on 06/06/2013 7:14:15 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

I’d suggest they put their heads between their legs and smooch their posterior goodbye... ok, not as to suggest anything obscene, but nodding? WHO COMES UP WITH THESE COCKAMAMIE IDEAS?


2 posted on 06/06/2013 7:16:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Who? Liberals believe that if you just show that you are harmless enough, the criminals will be satisfies with merely robbing and assaulting you.


3 posted on 06/06/2013 7:20:39 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: servo1969

Whatever happened to peeing on yourself? I just can’t keep up with all these new strategies for stopping attackers.


4 posted on 06/06/2013 7:24:36 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: servo1969
what's next, throw your purse/wallet at them and run away run away run away??
5 posted on 06/06/2013 7:25:12 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: servo1969

What happened to all those “Free Zones”? Can’t you run to those to be safe?


6 posted on 06/06/2013 7:26:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Chode

That’s what I guess they will suggest next, like maybe “carry an extra wallet to toss” or sumfin. (A little more difficult to throw a false purse.)


7 posted on 06/06/2013 7:26:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
there better be some money in it if you do, or they'll prolly beat you to death for sure for trying to trick them
8 posted on 06/06/2013 7:34:03 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: servo1969

[[In lieu of guns, people who find themselves in dangerous situations at or near the University of Arkansas should defend themselves by glancing and nodding, ]]

Perhaps tyhe university students shoudl becoem perpetrators themselves and specifically attack thsoe idiots that said that- see how they like following htier own advice in dangerous situations-

The students shoudl ALL band together, arm themsleves and in no uncertain terms tell the buttheads makign htose asinien statements “Are you peopel freakin kidding us? Tell ya what-
You nod your own damn heads to your hearts contentm, as for us, We’;ll shoot the pricks who attack us between the eyes you friggin idiots”


9 posted on 06/06/2013 7:35:58 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: SkyDancer

[[What happened to all those “Free Zones”? Can’t you run to those to be safe?]]

Suire you can but they wreak of urine


10 posted on 06/06/2013 7:36:54 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: servo1969

This is a genuine safety issue for the staff. Here is where collective bargaining actually makes sense for public employees.


11 posted on 06/06/2013 7:39:19 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“offered to host a crime prevention workshop.”

And teach the theoretical strategies currently proposed by the “experts” including non-judgmental defensive nodding.


12 posted on 06/06/2013 7:40:14 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: servo1969
Sharon Houlette, a detective with the UA Department of Public Safety, responded to the thread with advice for avoiding being attacked, which included a suggestion to “glance or nod” at possible attackers.

I wonder which movie she saw this in.

13 posted on 06/06/2013 7:44:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
My sister-in-law for years has said she is a Quaker and doesn't believe in violence and an attacker would sense that and not hurt her.

These days, she knows I have several firearms and now says it is okay if I kill someone who wants to attack her but she will not use the gun herself.

She is the worst lib I have ever known. She is to the left of Stalin. And, it's okay for me to save her life - well, swell.

14 posted on 06/06/2013 7:48:10 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

If she doesn’t believe her own life is worth fighting for, then she has no value for other lives. If she was attacked, I would not lift a hand to help her.


15 posted on 06/06/2013 7:55:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: servo1969

Several board members at the University of Arkansas also suggested:

People should applaud attackers.


16 posted on 06/06/2013 7:57:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

 ”That’s what I guess they will suggest next, like maybe “carry an extra wallet to toss” or sumfin. (A little more difficult to throw a false purse.)”

You may be onto something there: Grenade in purse. Pull pin. Throw purse to mugger (a few loose bills fluttering from purse for bait might help). Run like Hell.


17 posted on 06/06/2013 8:00:40 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: servo1969

I don’t think that a “wink and a nod” will deter a rapist. A good .38 will, re the picture.

I think the Un. of Arkansas Security Dept should get a new detective, one who knows what they are doing.

Stupid, stupid, stupid!


18 posted on 06/06/2013 8:02:58 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: servo1969
...said a university safety expert.

Clearly, he is not.

19 posted on 06/06/2013 8:07:07 PM PDT by NJRighty ("It's sick out there and getting sicker" - Bob Grant)
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To: ElkGroveDan
“Whatever happened to peeing on yourself? I just can’t keep up with all these new strategies for stopping attackers”

It was replaced with vomiting. No joke, the Illinois State Police were giving this advice at one point.

20 posted on 06/06/2013 8:08:35 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: servo1969
...the University of Arkansas should defend themselves by glancing and nodding, said a university safety expert.

Soon to be Darwin award winner.

21 posted on 06/06/2013 8:15:35 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: servo1969

Or just whip out your johnson and wave it; either one is equally effective.


22 posted on 06/06/2013 8:22:00 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Marcella
My sister-in-law for years has said she is a Quaker and doesn't believe in violence and an attacker would sense that and not hurt her.

She's never heard of an "easy mark". Unfortunately, someday she will be one. That will be her last day.

23 posted on 06/06/2013 8:26:52 PM PDT by Steve1789 (I miss having a president who loves this country.)
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To: servo1969
I don’t know what dimension these people are living in, but it sure isn’t the one the rest of us inhabit.
24 posted on 06/06/2013 8:45:47 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
WHO COMES UP WITH THESE COCKAMAMIE IDEAS? <<

the same ones that nod and whistle at crows in their garden....

I fire one shot..hang an offender on a stick and the crows seem to spend more time in the whistler and nodders garden next door...they always ask my secret...and I always tell ‘em...lead based fertilizer.....*W*...(they dont get it...but it gives them something to research on the Internet after they buy dinner...

25 posted on 06/06/2013 8:52:29 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: depressed in 06

How about telling the women to go sans panties; that way the attacker can have his way more easily and be gone before you can say “in and out”.

Liberals are incapable of feeling embarrassment.

Why don’t people get in the faces of these numbnuts and tell them how stupid they are? Why would anyone be polite to an idiot that could say something like that?


26 posted on 06/06/2013 8:52:54 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

it appears quakers deny the biblical right to self defense, or the right of defending others being unlawfully attacked. they apparently can’t make the clear distinction between righteous self-defense and immoral attacks by evil people.

the bible does not support pacifism.


27 posted on 06/06/2013 8:56:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Stormdog
including non-judgmental defensive nodding.<<

I hear ya there brother!..the last time I made a judgmental nodding...The cops cuffed me and took me away!...next time...I'll non-judgemental nod and hope the hell they know the difference!

28 posted on 06/06/2013 8:59:08 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: servo1969
“A glance or a nod will help you show anyone who might think that you are not paying attention, and you are aware of their presence,” she wrote.

"Watch out, guys! We outnumber him, and we have weapons and youth on our side, in this secluded area... BUT!!! He is aware of our presence! He NODDED!!! There's no WAY that we can beat him and take his money now! Curses! Foiled again!"

29 posted on 06/06/2013 9:01:18 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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To: CrazyIvan
lol...I like the way u think...Report to Campus Team Alpha tomorrow at zero 5 hundred...Sharp!
30 posted on 06/06/2013 9:03:19 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: servo1969; NFHale; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; ...
RE :”Sharon Houlette, a detective with the UA Department of Public Safety, responded to the thread with advice for avoiding being attacked, which included a suggestion to “glance or nod” at possible attackers.
“A glance or a nod will help you show anyone who might think that you are not paying attention, and you are aware of their presence,” she wrote. “

I believe the ‘glance or a nod’ in criminal-speak means
I am just another un-armed sheep waiting to be slaughtered because Dems assured me that it would save the children, BAAA, BAAA, AHHHHH, Help me...’

Maryland is full of them, they run the place.

You wont see Sen Kirsten Gillibrand NY demanding hearings on the women attacked here, and her solution would be gender equality sensitivity training.

31 posted on 06/06/2013 9:07:43 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: NJRighty

> ...said a university safety expert.
Clearly, he is not.

Anybody who has ever been called an expert by others because of his eperience and training know this one truth. You can ALWAYS be wrong despite your professional opinion.


32 posted on 06/06/2013 9:19:49 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Marcella

Just curious. What do you think your sister would do if you were being attacked? Would she help, or would she let you die? I’d like to think a situation like that would snap her out of it.


33 posted on 06/06/2013 9:42:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“If she doesn’t believe her own life is worth fighting for, then she has no value for other lives. If she was attacked, I would not lift a hand to help her.”

I read an article a long time ago written by a Buddhist priest in Boston who carried, and when asked why,he said that if a person is unwilling to defend himself, then how can he be expected to defend others, especially those he does not know.

Smart guy.


34 posted on 06/06/2013 10:55:26 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Marcella

“My sister-in-law for years has said she is a Quaker and doesn’t believe in violence and an attacker would sense that and not hurt her.”

Funny. I had a female liberal co-worker once who said that African Americans AKA black dudes in Skid Row are harmless. Not once did she walk outside the building. She was a pretty brunette and always asked me to walk 50 feet to the corner store for pop. This was during my intern days of my senior year at university for my thesis. That’s why I hate liberals. They’re all a bunch of hypocrites..


35 posted on 06/07/2013 1:13:46 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: servo1969

“Who you lookin’ at, honky?”


36 posted on 06/07/2013 1:23:34 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: servo1969

Good luck if you nod at a gang member whose rival gang’s sign is a nod instead of those old-fashioned hand signs.


37 posted on 06/07/2013 2:51:05 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
WHO COMES UP WITH THESE COCKAMAMIE IDEAS?

Liberal bobbleheads.

I hate the way they nod incessantly when they are lying to you, too.

38 posted on 06/07/2013 2:55:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

A study made by female sociology graduate students provided the result that the nod could be augmented. If the attackers are on the right, a very slight tilt of the chin rightward and then down was found to be more effective than a straight chinned nod. The glance must not be furtive. It must be full on with somewhat squinted eyes.

The failure to enhance the nod and menacingly squint could result in a 38% more likelihood of being attacked. Surprisingly to the researchers, the effect of not squinting but modifying the nod, or modifying the nod but not squinting had the same effect. That is a 46% more likely hood of attack.

There are other avenues of study including the effect of smiling or not smiling, showing lots, some or no teeth. These were not included however because the grant funds were all used up.

The use of a scowling glance and nod was rejected as being active rather than the always desirable passive state.


39 posted on 06/07/2013 5:14:03 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....Lerner must be tried and executed..... crime against the Republic)
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To: Windflier

“What do you think your sister would do if you were being attacked? Would she help, or would she let you die?”

She wouldn’t help - she would feel bad that I died.


40 posted on 06/07/2013 6:30:49 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: max americana
“That’s why I hate liberals. They’re all a bunch of hypocrites..”

Yes, they are. When we were talking about defending yourself, the sister-in-law asked her husband (another liberal) if he would shoot someone attacking her. The husband has a concealed carry license and carries a big gun. The husband didn't answer for a long time - then he said, “If I shot someone I could get in trouble.” I couldn't believe the dead air time before he answered, then was stunned he wouldn't shoot.

I knew then he was just carrying that gun to be macho - he won't use it because he might get in trouble. Do you get that? He wouldn't shoot to save his wife - this man is useless in a life or death situation with a bad guy.

Plus, this is Texas and no one gets in trouble for defending his/her life or the lives of others.

41 posted on 06/07/2013 6:42:51 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I am sure the police give this same advice to their family members/s


42 posted on 06/07/2013 7:00:36 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Couldn’t have been Fast and Furious 6. Lots of gunplay and stuff but very little defensive nodding.


43 posted on 06/07/2013 7:26:40 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Marcella

“The husband has a concealed carry license and carries a big gun. The husband didn’t answer for a long time - then he said, “If I shot someone I could get in trouble.”

Seriously?? Why doesn’t he just answer “Well, I’ll turn my firearm to my head because it’s my fault for being rich and having all these wonderful stuff while this poor man is just robbing me so he can fairly have the same wonderful things I worked hard for in life” s/


44 posted on 06/07/2013 8:06:14 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Marcella
She wouldn’t help - she would feel bad that I died.

Aye, aye, aye...

45 posted on 06/07/2013 8:08:47 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Marcella
My sister-in-law for years has said she is a Quaker and doesn't believe in violence and an attacker would sense that and not hurt her. These days, she knows I have several firearms and now says it is okay if I kill someone who wants to attack her but she will not use the gun herself. She is the worst lib I have ever known. She is to the left of Stalin. And, it's okay for me to save her life - well, swell.

Tell her that you will probably wind up defending her, eventually, but you will allow an attacker to draw first blood just to disabuse her about her pacifism protecting her. See how she reacts.

It's long been my opinion that "pacifism" like hers is evil, in that it is damaging to the soul of a protector to be indoctrinated that his protective actions are immoral.

46 posted on 06/07/2013 8:19:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: sickoflibs; servo1969; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA

“...included a suggestion to “glance or nod” at possible attackers....”

Glance or nod behind the front sight of your handgun.

Anything else is unacceptable.


47 posted on 06/07/2013 8:24:42 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: max americana
“Seriously??”

Yes, he was serious. I had thought he would immediately say he would shoot the guy attacking her but there was this long silence because he was thinking - then said if he shot someone, he could get in trouble.

I was stunned. I knew he was the worst kind of liberal but he carries a gun on his person all the time. I thought he would surely protect the wife instantly but he won't.

They don't store anything and live on the coast. They know I am a prepper and think I am nuts but if TSHTF, I think they would come here because they know I am prepared. I stored more thinking they would come here. I was thinking he would be another source of defense if he was here because I knew he carried a gun, but now I don't think that. I couldn't depend on him helping me with defense.

Here's how liberal they are: They watch/listen to Aljazeera (sp) news. They say Aljazeera is the only one who tells the truth. They told me a few months ago that the only danger we have is global warming. That was to tell me storing wasn't necessary since global warming is years away and that's the only danger we have.

They helped me tremendously when my husband, her brother, was sick and dying, so I love them for that, but they are vicious in their liberalism and I've gotten to the point I tell them I'm not talking about politics with them.

Now, if they have a hurricane coming their way this year (and they have nothing stored), it will be interesting to see if they hit the road and come to my house.

48 posted on 06/07/2013 9:32:50 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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