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Best Explanation For The Fake U.S. Housing Market Recovery
TMO ^ | 6-7-2013 | Michael Lombardi

Posted on 06/07/2013 6:07:34 AM PDT by blam

Best Explanation For The Fake U.S. Housing Market Recovery

Housing-Market / US Housing Jun 06, 2013 - 04:37 PM GMT
By: Profit Confidential
Michael Lombardi

Michael Lombardi writes: The average American Joe isn’t participating in the U.S. housing market. As a matter of fact, according to the Campbell/Inside Mortgage Finance HousingPulse Tracking Survey, investors purchased 69% of “damaged” properties in April 2013, while first-time home buyers accounted for only 16% of “damaged” purchases.

It is very well documented in these pages how home prices in the U.S. economy are being driven upward by institutional investors. Affirming my stance on the U.S. housing market, Suzanne Mistretta, an analyst at Fitch Rating Services, was quoted this week as saying, “The [housing price] growth is being propelled by institutional money… The question is how much the change in prices really reflects the market demand, rather than one-off market shifts that may not be around in a couple of years.” (Source: Popper, N., “Behind the Rise in House Prices, Wall Street Buyers,” New York Times Dealbook, June 3, 2013.)

Major financial institutions like The Blackstone Group L.P. (NYSE/BX) have become major buyers in the U.S. housing market. Blackstone has spent more than $4.0 billion for 24,000 homes in the U.S. housing market that it plans to rent out.

Rising prices on homes in various pockets of the U.S. housing market are a direct result of large institutional investors buying in.

Take Atlanta, for example. Blackstone bought 1,400 properties worth more than $100 million in Atlanta last year. (Source: Bloomberg, April 25, 2013.) And what happened to prices for homes in Atlanta? According to CoreLogic, a housing data compiler, home prices in Atlanta increased 12.4% in the 12-month period ended February 2013, )

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; housing; housingbubble; realestate; recovery

1 posted on 06/07/2013 6:07:34 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

How much foreign money is in there too?


2 posted on 06/07/2013 6:09:50 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: blam

After the last collapse, my brother in law (Lives in Phoenix) walked away from many homes there that he was using as investment instruments.

He’s back. He’s flipping an average of one home a day.

And meanwhile, a friend is STILL in her house in Seattle. She has not made a house payment now in over four years. She keeps stringing the bank along and they keep threatening “this time we mean it”. Not so far...

What a world.


3 posted on 06/07/2013 6:10:13 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: NonValueAdded

I understand they have built entire cities in China that are still unoccupied. People buy and sell the homes there in the large planned neighborhoods like you would buy stocks, yet for years, and ever since they were built, the entire neighborhoods are unoccupied.

What a world.


4 posted on 06/07/2013 6:11:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: NonValueAdded

A lot of cash buyers in my neighborhood.


5 posted on 06/07/2013 6:11:45 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: blam

I trust nothing at face prtaining to the economy anymore reported by the MSM. They only report what they are told to by the spin doctors in the WH. In fact, I bet there’s a whole department of the Obama administration that is devoted to propaganda, lies, and deception. It really would not surprise me one iota.


6 posted on 06/07/2013 6:12:30 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: blam

Warren Buffet advised investors to snap up foreclosures and short sales last year, and they are following his advice. The USA will be a nation of renters as it was during the last Depression, but don’t expect Bloomberg TV or CNBC to report this unpleasant truth.


7 posted on 06/07/2013 6:14:41 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: cuban leaf
Tell your friend to ask her bank for a HAMP modification: she'll be able to get an interest rate as low as 2%, and the bank will get a nice fee for doing it.

Then call your Congressman and ask him why you can't get the same deal!

lol...I think

8 posted on 06/07/2013 6:15:18 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: blam

Blackstone Partners have a vested interest in stabilizing the housing market. They own about 30 contractor lumber yards through their subsidiary USLBM. Many of these lumber yards were also purchased when they were in distress, ie bankruptcy.

I currently sell a few of them from IL to CT. They are a large investment company. They look at this as an opportunity to buy cheap. They have already sold a couple of these lumber yards(in Indy) when one of their competitors made them an offer to good to refuse.

However, I disagree with the premise of the article, at least from my first hand experience in selling my house here in NH. Four out of the five offers I had on my house were from first time home buyers. All of them were looking to live in the house.

The houses that have sold to investors in this area are mainly to the house flippers type. For example, there was a house we were looking at to buy about 6 months ago. It was owned by Fannie Mae. It sold for $280K or less(this was the asking price when it when under contract). It just went back on the market for $425K. However, it is in an area where the abutting homes are in the $500K- $1M range. I wanted to buy this house BUT the boss(Mrs. Woodbutcher) did not like it. We bought another house about 2 miles away for $270K. We sold our house the first week of February for $260K in 8 days.


9 posted on 06/07/2013 6:23:43 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: NonValueAdded

There were a lot of Canadian buyers in the last couple years in both the AZ and FL markets. Many of these folks were people looking to buy their retirement or Snowbird house. I also personally know people from both ND and MT that bought houses in AZ last year just for that reason.


10 posted on 06/07/2013 6:27:14 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Night Hides Not

Institutional investors see opportunity in picking up properties from the banksters. They’re about to get their pockets picked. It takes bux up front to cleanup the homes they bought and people and money to maintain them. Their profit margins aren’t going to justify the investment. The banks get to improve their balance sheets and are holding inventory off the market to keep the price up. We’ve still got oversupply gang and even with the fed pumping up the money supply, it isn’t going to change that.


11 posted on 06/07/2013 6:28:09 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: blam

This is simply “The Housing Boom”, Part Deux.


12 posted on 06/07/2013 6:29:57 AM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: blam

Fake?

It’s one thing to analyze data and reach conclusions about the structure of a market, and it’s another to claim that a market doesn’t exist. Conservatives are so committed to bad news on the economy that they say a lot of very stupid things.


13 posted on 06/07/2013 6:45:34 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

You have a most appropriate screen name.

If you cross index the posting history of the people pointing out that there is no improvement in home buying from actual occupants of houses with the keyword “housingbubble” you will find that we accurately forecast the real estate collapse over six years ago.

We were looking at the numbers then. There are more dwellings than there are families to fill them. A hell of a lot more. This has always been a prognostication predicated on statistics.

This could not have ended any other way and it will be a long time before prices can come up significantly.

At least they will have some value when the currency collapses.


14 posted on 06/07/2013 7:05:34 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: cuban leaf

Lady flipped the condo above me.


15 posted on 06/07/2013 7:10:32 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: babble-on

“Conservatives are so committed to bad news on the economy that they say a lot of very stupid things.”

Your entire post was one stupid liberal comment. The two phrases you strung together are not mutually exclusive as you tried to present them.


16 posted on 06/07/2013 7:11:21 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: jsanders2001
I trust nothing at face pertaining to the economy anymore reported by the MSM. They only report what they are told to by the spin doctors in the WH.

You will believe what The Ministry of Truth says or you will be taken to Room 101.


17 posted on 06/07/2013 7:12:44 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: jsanders2001

“I bet there’s a whole department of the Obama administration that is devoted to propaganda, lies, and deception. It really would not surprise me one iota.”
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It would certainly surprise me to learn there is NOT one! You may not be able to identify it by name but it certainly exists in function. It might be safe to say that the “mainstream media” serves the function quite well and is in fact the department to which you refer.


18 posted on 06/07/2013 7:16:33 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: RipSawyer

Well Blackstone is active in the Tampa-St. Pete area. I heard from my realtor Blackstone’s plan is to rent their properties for 5 years, then dump them back on the market. She was perturbed as it would decrease purchasers up front, then depress values when they divest. But rents have gone up 50% in some areas and there’s all kinds of people angling to profit from it.

In my former town home prices have gone up over 20% and rentals more than 40% since October by my estimate. The market is incredibly tight where the institutions (and foreigners) are active, usually the same area. Outside the ‘investment zones’ prices remain moderate to flat. I found a nice, small area overlooked by the investors and foreigners which is the same work and ocean commute distance as my last place, plus acerage and conservation. I snapped it up and plan on buying land as soon as I can rebuild my savings.

Pasco county is doing well with Raymond James and Fidelity setting up there and more coporations to come. IMO w Pasco’s attraction is due to being the closest available land near both TPA and the coast via uncongested highways. The area I’m in is a ‘sweet spot’ in between there and Tampa.


19 posted on 06/07/2013 8:45:26 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Oatka

LOL ...believe it or not I’ve never read it but I bet we have gone far past what Orwell envisioned


20 posted on 06/07/2013 8:45:58 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: MrEdd

An analyst who is always bearish is not much use to anyone.


21 posted on 06/07/2013 9:04:55 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

It is pretty damned stupid to insist that anyone who correlates total supply with total possible demand and notes that there is a huge overstock is some how being “always bearish”.

Now, someone who was not an idiot might find out if the persons in question had been “bearish” before the overstock. They might also wait to see if they remain “bearish” after inevitably much of the overtock eventually sits unoccupied long enough to fall into disrepair thus correcting the overstock.

Some economic laws can not be overcome with cheerleading and sloganeering. They are hard realities which one ignores at their own peril.


22 posted on 06/07/2013 9:42:21 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: blam

Agree with this.
My daughter sold her “vinyl village” ranch in a nice suburb here in Indiana to a California investment outfit.
The listing was “live” for about 36 hours.
They paid 98% of the asking price and closed immediately.


23 posted on 06/07/2013 9:45:12 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: MrEdd

a lot of “Stupids” and “Idiots” coming out of the mouth of a person does not usually impress me when I am assessing the value of their insights.

I was bearish too - before the crash - and you can look that up as well. Then when prices fell by 50-60% and the Fed flooded the market with liquidity, I became bullish.

That’s how you make money.


24 posted on 06/07/2013 10:01:31 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: jsanders2001
LOL ...believe it or not I’ve never read it but I bet we have gone far past what Orwell envisioned.

A good read, and as you said, prophetic. The chart below explains it:


25 posted on 06/07/2013 11:28:48 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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