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LeDuff: Detroit police's simulated purse snatching goes awry
myfoxdetroit ^ | Jun 06, 2013 | Charlie LeDuff

Posted on 06/07/2013 9:47:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek

DETROIT (WJBK) -

An FBI agent almost shot a Detroit cop on Wednesday at a gas station while filling up. It wasn't the agent or the cop's fault. It was the cop's bosses, who came up with the lame brain idea to simulate a purse snatching and then invite a TV crew to film your reaction Detroit. The immediate supervisor of these cops had no idea this was happening until they called him.

"The event takes place. The officer takes the purse, runs around the gas station. As he's running, an off-duty FBI agent is pumping gas. He witnesses the whole thing. He gives chase. He pulls his weapon, and as he turns the corner around the gas station, he's stopped by another officer, who identifies herself as a police officer and don't shoot, don't shoot, this is a scenario," said Inspector Shawn Gargalino with the Detroit Police Department.

That is the same description of events we got from four other ranking law enforcement officials, including Lieutenant Chuck Flannagan, a 28-year veteran of DPD.

"It's a tragedy waiting to happen. In fact, I understand an FBI agent did pull a weapon because he didn't believe it was a staged, and some officers had to run forward to prevent him from possibly shooting an officer. We have enough robberies at gas stations that most people aren't going to assume it's a mock robbery," he said.

"You had citizens who could've been hurt. A lot of people out here have CPLs now and carry weapons. They're tired of the crime that's going on in Detroit, and they might want to stand up and help somebody that's in this type of situation. It just so happened it's a gas station where the FBI fills up all their vehicles," Gargalino said.

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxdetroit.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: dangerous; detroit; police; stupid
Seriously stupid could have become seriously tragic if someone had gotten shot. It would have been even worse if an armed citizen had stepped up as they so often do.

Be sure to check out the video.

1 posted on 06/07/2013 9:47:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
One of the reasons I'm ever more supportive of private cops. They don't waste time on this kind of dangerous stupidity.

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Michigan legislative action thread
2 posted on 06/07/2013 9:49:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Keystone Kops 1857-2013
3 posted on 06/07/2013 9:54:26 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

Here’s a scenario. Fake holdup staged by police. Honest, law-abiding citizen sees holdup and intervenes. Fake perp points gun at citizen. Citizen defends self and shoots fake perp.

If the police arrest the citizen they are all fascists and need to be put in jail. (I don’t care if this angers anyone)

TF Bad for the fake perp. Tough. That’s the way it is. The citizen can only act on the information available to him at the time of the act. The citizen is innocent and the police who staged it are responsible for the death. End of discussion.


4 posted on 06/07/2013 9:56:48 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: mardi59

So much to do and so little time to do it in!
Not enough crime in Detriot lets go fake some!
We’ll be the Badge Stars of MOTOWn 911. “Those Reno Guys ain’t got nothin on us”.


5 posted on 06/07/2013 9:59:57 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Conserev1

Detroit rots.

The pension gurus are frolicking in Hawaii at a “conference” to rival the IRS’s.

The cops are playing cops and robbers, without the street bosses knowing.

And Detroit rots.


6 posted on 06/07/2013 10:03:50 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Conserev1

So much to do and so little time to do it in!
Not enough crime in Detriot lets go fake some!
We’ll be the Badge Stars of MOTOWn 911. “Those Reno Guys ain’t got nothin on us”.

*****

It’s funny that they are never around when the real crime is happening. To busy picking out their favorite donuts.


7 posted on 06/07/2013 10:04:20 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Conserev1

If they wanted to make a public service video (pointless in my opinion) there are certainly better ways of doing it.

Use an empty gas station, put up some police tape and signs to keep people out, and post a few obvious cops around to make sure.


8 posted on 06/07/2013 10:07:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: I want the USA back
"Here's a scenario...."

Only one problem...and it's a BIG one.

A citizen shoots the perp, who is actually a cop, with many other cops probably in the area for training, back-up, or whatever......and you think the citizen would be ARRESTED????.

9 posted on 06/07/2013 10:13:16 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: cripplecreek

You’re assuming there anybody with a minimum amount of intelligence and common sense left in the Detroit PD & government. It’s now filled with leeches and freeloaders.


10 posted on 06/07/2013 10:15:12 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: cripplecreek

Didn’t a school in Michigan just have a “fake” terrorist attack a couple months ago that no one told the teachers about? Sheer stupidity and they are lucky no one was killed.


11 posted on 06/07/2013 10:23:56 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I hadn’t heard about a fake terrorist attack but a school near Selfridge ANG base was shut down due to an airman walking down the hall in cammo. (he was stopping in to say hi to a former teacher.)


12 posted on 06/07/2013 10:26:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: House Atreides
The direction Detroit must take.

Manager of the 'City That Outsourced Everything' (Sandy Springs GA) Says Privatization Can Help Michigan
13 posted on 06/07/2013 10:29:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: I want the USA back

Except that as soon as the citizen pulls his gun, all the cops will likely shoot him dead. Assuming he didn’t have a dog, in which case they’d shoot the dog first, and probably a bystander and maybe a car parked nearby.


14 posted on 06/07/2013 10:44:32 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: cripplecreek

:: It just so happened it’s a gas station where the FBI fills up ALL their vehicles ::

So...who was in charge of “background research”?


15 posted on 06/07/2013 10:55:05 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: cripplecreek

I think that this experiment should be filed under “don’t try this anywhere”. If it was done in Tennessee, especially away from the big liberal cities (Memphis, etc.), shots likely would have been fired.


16 posted on 06/07/2013 10:56:36 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: I want the USA back

Let em add something to your scenario:

(1) Actual thug attempts hold-up and when chased by a CFL holder, turns and says, “This is a DPD staged robbery, don’t shoot.”

CFL lowers his guard and real thug kills him and escapes.

(2) Fake-thug is chased by samaritan CFL holder and is gunned down by a DPD officer assigned to the fake robbery.

Shooting DPD officer says, “I was compelled to protect my fellow officer.”


17 posted on 06/07/2013 10:59:52 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: cripplecreek
The only officer that had common sense was the inspector who was being interviewed. Strangely enough, he was white and if I'm not mistaken he said he was in charge of both the 1st and 13th precincts.......usually an Inspector is only charged with 1 precinct.

As a side note, when my dad retired from the DPD back around 1978, he was the Executive Lt. at the 13th precinct under an inspector named Blount, a real POS who was a beneficiary of affirmative action that had taken over the police dept. in the '70's.

18 posted on 06/07/2013 11:00:35 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: cripplecreek
Is there any reason to believe that a Detroit police officer and a real purse snatcher are mutually exclusive?
19 posted on 06/07/2013 11:02:41 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: cripplecreek

What amazes me is that they’d have to stage a purse snatching in Detroit. Why not just wait five minutes?


20 posted on 06/07/2013 11:05:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: cripplecreek

I drew on an undercover deputy in the store one day, the only thing that saved him was my self control.


21 posted on 06/07/2013 11:07:17 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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