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Eight Colorado counties want to leave the state
dailycaller.com ^ | 6-7-2013 | Greg Campbell

Posted on 06/07/2013 12:24:45 PM PDT by servo1969

As a sign of just how divisive the recently ended Colorado legislative session has been, it may very well result in a literal division of the state.

As many as eight counties composing the rural, oil and gas-rich northeast corner of the state are pursuing a plan to cut ties with a capital city they no longer feel represents their interests and come together as the 51st state in the country: North Colorado.

“We’re actually going to pursue it,” said Weld County Commissioner Douglas Rademacher, a farmer whose jurisdiction is spearheading the effort. “Frankly, we’ve been ignored in northeastern Colorado now for the last, going on eight years with the current administration in Denver.”

“Frankly, we see no option,” he said. “We are going to move forward.”

Rademacher cited numerous examples of how Denver politicians are out of touch with rural Colorado, from passing tough new gun laws — “that gun legislation really pissed a lot of people off in Weld County,” he said — to trying to clamp down on companies that extract natural gas through fracking.

But the final straw, he said, was Gov. John Hickenlooper’s signature on Wednesday of Senate Bill 252 requiring rural electrical cooperatives to double to 20 percent the amount of renewable energy in their portfolios by 2020.

“It’s a death by a thousand cuts, but the straw that finally broke the back was the governor signed 252 yesterday, which puts another huge impact on rural Colorado to meet these unrealistic deadlines and mandates for renewable energy,” he said. “And yet, the major population centers don’t have to abide by it. There’s a hypocrisy going on in Denver that’s just driving us crazy.”

Rademacher said a theoretical North Colorado could also include counties in neighboring states like Kansas and Nebraska, some of which he said have expressed interest in joining the effort. He said there was also serious talk among the county commissioners about asking a neighboring state to annex their territory — Rademacher said Wyoming would be the obvious choice.

In the end, it was decided that self-representation was the most appealing course, even though Rademacher admits that forming a new state will be difficult. The last time a state was formed from another was when West Virginia gained sovereignty from Virginia in 1863.

“Nevertheless, they were all done for the same reason, lack of representation,” he said. “And that’s where we’re at.”

“Frankly, I think we’re ready to cut and go.”

It may be easier said than done. The rules for creating new states are outlined in Article IV, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, which require the approval of the existing state’s legislature and Congress.

Each upstart county plans to let its residents’ vote on the idea, which Rademacher said they want to do at the first opportunity, even though the deadline for questions to appear on the November ballot is Aug. 1.

If the votes pass, the legislature and the governor would then have to petition Congress to allow for the formation of a new state. Rademacher thinks getting the legislature to do so will be the biggest hurdle.

“I don’t think they’ll let us go,” he said, pointing to the region’s rich oil and gas deposits and the agricultural industry that contributes substantially to Colorado’s economy.

U.S. history is filled with failed attempts at new states. According to the nonprofit, nonpartisan National Constitution Center, it’s been tried at least 75 times and been successful only five — Vermont split from New York, Kentucky from Virginia, Tennessee from North Carolina, Maine from Massachusetts, and West Virginia from Virginia.

The most recent attempt to form a new state was in 2011, when residents of Pima County, Ariz., tried to break out on their own to distance themselves from the politics of Maricopa County.

Rademacher said he’s heard from non-contiguous counties in Colorado about if and how they could also join the effort. But he said the territory of wannabe North Colorado at least has to share a border with other breakaway-minded counties.

“We can’t build a highway to heaven,” he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: colorado; hickenlooper; new; north; rademacher; secession; state; weld

1 posted on 06/07/2013 12:24:45 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Article. IV, Section 3:

“New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”


2 posted on 06/07/2013 12:30:31 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP
“New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”


3 posted on 06/07/2013 12:34:46 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: servo1969

The only way to do this is to cut off the supply of food and fuel to the cities...preferably this winter. Urban dwellers think they don’t need country folk, but they really do.


4 posted on 06/07/2013 12:35:23 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: servo1969

A cursory study showed that Colo went blue very quickly from +5 Bush in 2004 to +5 Obama in 2012.

I’m assuming this was mostly in-migration of illegals and coastal libs into metro areas.

Which would lead to the conclusion that the “boondocks” are still pretty salvageable.


5 posted on 06/07/2013 12:38:29 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: TBP

The constitutional hurdle is a big one.

Even if Colorado would let those counties go, can you imagine the Democrat controlled US Senate allowing a new state, which would likely elect 2 Republican senators????


6 posted on 06/07/2013 12:39:45 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: KC_Lion

That’s “West, By God, Virginia” to outsiders. ;-)


7 posted on 06/07/2013 12:42:29 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: servo1969

I think they’d get further if they took the northern tier counties of CO and appealed to Wyoming for annexation.


8 posted on 06/07/2013 12:43:37 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: servo1969

Constitution aside, it would be great to get this done, let the socialists rot in their urban hellholes. Another prime candidate is California where the rural counties could regulate the urban water, power and food.


9 posted on 06/07/2013 12:45:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Even if Colorado would let those counties go, can you imagine the Democrat controlled US Senate allowing a new state, which would likely elect 2 Republican senators????

Eventually, what the movement will amount to is the rest of Colorado wanting to secede from Denver/Boulder.

10 posted on 06/07/2013 12:53:23 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: TBP

It does not seem to me that the constitution matters at all in this country any longer.


11 posted on 06/07/2013 12:59:32 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Navy Patriot

State of Jefferson


12 posted on 06/07/2013 1:02:14 PM PDT by lardog ( Obama should be locked up.)
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To: KC_Lion

Also Maine.


13 posted on 06/07/2013 1:43:17 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything. Bolshies' gonna bolsh.)
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To: chris37

California needs to be cut into North and South. Mexico even considered this when they owned the place.


14 posted on 06/07/2013 1:48:04 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
California needs to be cut into North and South

So you want to add 2 additional guaranteed Democrats for the Senate?

15 posted on 06/07/2013 1:51:37 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation

There was a huge influx of ultra liberal Californians from the Silicon valley to Colorado Springs.


16 posted on 06/07/2013 1:55:05 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

If that line continued far to the east, it would be just fine with me.


17 posted on 06/07/2013 1:58:12 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

My niece is one of them, although she’s in Denver.


18 posted on 06/07/2013 1:58:31 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: servo1969

I wish we could dump New York city from the state of New York.


19 posted on 06/07/2013 2:04:48 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Washington State needs to be cut in half...East and West.


20 posted on 06/07/2013 3:28:57 PM PDT by proudpapa (A school is supposed to be a safe place!' Yeah well so is a womb!)
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To: proudpapa

I was thinking of combining states and get down to about 40.

Anyone?

Back later.

Dakota, Carolina for starters.


21 posted on 06/07/2013 3:35:33 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: NVDave

Senators Manchin and Rockefeller consider WV a reliably stupid electorate that votes counter to its own personal interests.


22 posted on 06/07/2013 4:13:03 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Even if Colorado would let those counties go, can you imagine the Democrat controlled US Senate allowing a new state, which would likely elect 2 Republican senators????

that’s when the Puerto Rico becomes a state...

think the Hawaii/Alaska becoming states debacle...there was a reason 2 territories became states at the same time.

23 posted on 06/08/2013 6:21:21 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: morphing libertarian

I was thinking of combining states and get down to about 40.

Anyone?

Back later.

Dakota, Carolina for starters.

That would kill any remaining power we have in the senate...


24 posted on 06/13/2013 11:49:37 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: KC_Lion
The Yankees fabricated a rump "Virginia Legislature", which proceeded to vote in favor of those counties seceding from Virginia ... The real Commonwealth of Virginia was not in a good position to argue about it.
25 posted on 06/13/2013 11:52:24 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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