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Sources: Crane Operator In Building Collapse Had Pot, Painkiller In His System
CBSPhilly ^ | 6/7/2013 | Walt Hunter

Posted on 06/07/2013 1:39:32 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Sources tell CBS 3 that blood tests on the crane operator involved with Wednesday’s deadly building collapse in Center City detected the presence of a prescription painkiller and marijuana.

The blood, along with urine, was taken from 42-year-old Sean Benschop at the hospital approximately two hours after the collapse at 22nd and Market Streets, which killed six people and injured 13. (See Related Story)

Sources say investigators also noticed that Benschop, who has a history of 11 prior arrests, including a conviction for possession and dealing drugs, was speaking in what police considered an unusually slow, quiet way, “almost whispering,” according to a source.
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(Excerpt) Read more at philadelphia.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: benschop; collapse; crane; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; operator; painkiller; philadelphia; seanbenschop
Get that man some medical marijuana... pot does not hurt anyone, it's a victimless crime.
1 posted on 06/07/2013 1:39:32 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen
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To: PieterCasparzen

With his record, why was he even hired to operate a crane?


2 posted on 06/07/2013 1:41:56 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: PieterCasparzen
...pot does not hurt anyone

No more so than alcohol.

3 posted on 06/07/2013 1:42:16 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: PieterCasparzen
Dang...they let THAT guy near a crane? The guy in charge should be joining him...
4 posted on 06/07/2013 1:42:59 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: PieterCasparzen
Doesn't matter if it was booze, drugs, or being on the cell phone, it's negligent homicide, and there are laws against that.

/johnny

5 posted on 06/07/2013 1:43:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: PieterCasparzen

With his record he shouldn’t have had the job in the first place.


6 posted on 06/07/2013 1:43:16 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

“pot does not hurt anyone, it’s a victimless crime. “

The pain killer was most likely the cause. “Do not operate heavy machinery.”


7 posted on 06/07/2013 1:43:18 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Whats the problem,hes just be’en a bro


8 posted on 06/07/2013 1:43:39 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: PieterCasparzen

Is this a union only job site?


9 posted on 06/07/2013 1:45:24 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: SeeSharp

Not true! Marihuana is much more dangerous because smokers can consume it from waking up all through the day and not think they are impaired.


10 posted on 06/07/2013 1:46:01 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: t1b8zs

If Obie had a son...


11 posted on 06/07/2013 1:46:29 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Unions


12 posted on 06/07/2013 1:47:28 PM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: gov_bean_ counter
If Obie had a son...

He'd be at Harvard Law smoking pot, not some dirt bag jobsite in Philly LOL.

13 posted on 06/07/2013 1:48:28 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: kabumpo
Not true! Marihuana is much more dangerous because smokers can consume it from waking up all through the day and not think they are impaired.

[giggling] wwhhhhhaaaaa man ? hey, wo ....
14 posted on 06/07/2013 1:49:41 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: nascarnation

ROFLOL!!!


15 posted on 06/07/2013 1:50:05 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
With his record, why was he even hired to operate a crane?

That's racist !
16 posted on 06/07/2013 1:50:28 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: nascarnation
Is this a union only job site?

Yes you have to belong to the pothead union.-

17 posted on 06/07/2013 1:51:41 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Which union is defending him?


18 posted on 06/07/2013 1:52:07 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's Enemies List - Yes, you are a crook.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“With his record, why was he even hired to operate a crane?”

There’s a huge push to forbid employee background checks. This is because prior arrests prevent former convicts from getting jobs. One of the people arguing for this was a director at a company where I worked. She said she’d give a former convict a job over someone who wasn’t a former convict because “they needed the break.” (My thought was, what about the guy who kept his nose clean, has a perfect record and needs a job? What about HIM? But I didn’t say it because she was an idiot and idiots want to live in an echo chamber.)


19 posted on 06/07/2013 1:52:52 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: VeniVidiVici

The International Bro’hood of Crazane Opsimaters.


20 posted on 06/07/2013 1:53:42 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: nascarnation
Is this a union only job site?

They ALL are in Philly!

21 posted on 06/07/2013 1:54:08 PM PDT by pgkdan (Some taglines never go away....)
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To: Gen.Blather

The government doesn’t have the IT resources to do background checks on pothead crane operators.


22 posted on 06/07/2013 1:54:51 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: pgkdan

That’s what I figured.
At GM, we’d have union guys and gals get dismissed for dealing on company property (pretty much never for possession or being under the influence).

And in a couple months they’d be back after completing a rehab stint.


23 posted on 06/07/2013 1:56:30 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation

And I’ll bet they were on paid leave too...


24 posted on 06/07/2013 1:57:48 PM PDT by pgkdan (Some taglines never go away....)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Obama wii probably promote him to all the shovel ready projects since
he is probably Union and can’t be fired.


25 posted on 06/07/2013 2:01:19 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

He was hired in Philadelphia for one reason. Nuff said


26 posted on 06/07/2013 2:04:46 PM PDT by oldironsides
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To: PieterCasparzen

A crane operator has to have split second reactions.


27 posted on 06/07/2013 2:06:11 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: PieterCasparzen

Which do they think was more responsible, the painkiller or the pot?


28 posted on 06/07/2013 2:08:36 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Sources tell CBS 3 that blood tests on the crane operator involved with Wednesday’s deadly building collapse in Center City detected the presence of a prescription painkiller and marijuana.

How much of either?

If he smoked marijuana and took the painkiller the night before last then what does it have to do with anything?

If he smoked the marijuana and took the painkiller in the last hour defiantly relevant.

29 posted on 06/07/2013 2:09:09 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Join AAAA : Americans Against Acronym Abuse)
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To: pgkdan

Typically not, although some would get back pay eventually.

A lot depended on nepotism, cronyism, etc.


30 posted on 06/07/2013 2:14:19 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: kabumpo

LOL


31 posted on 06/07/2013 2:18:05 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

http://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1108.pdf

I recalled a report on flying and marijuana. Seems that numerous studies show that up to 24 hours later, pot impairs the ability to perform tasks. But depending on the pain meds - they probably had a greater effect.


32 posted on 06/07/2013 2:18:58 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Gen.Blather
There’s a huge push to forbid employee background checks. This is because prior arrests prevent former convicts from getting jobs.

The EEOC is really pushing hard on the "don't do background checks" thing.

They are just waiting to have a "test" case that they can take to court. Right now it's just a suggestion from the EEOC.

My company will still be doing background checks. Good mercy some people don't need a "break", some people need to be locked up and the key thrown away. (rme)

33 posted on 06/07/2013 2:19:59 PM PDT by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: kabumpo

Not to mention the brain cells it kills over a period of time.


34 posted on 06/07/2013 2:23:14 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: PieterCasparzen

Wouldn’t you need an engineer present for this type of work? Just because you can operate a crane doesn’t mean you can safely bring down a building.


35 posted on 06/07/2013 2:25:07 PM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: KEVLAR
Wouldn’t you need an engineer present for this type of work?

Only if he's in the union. Otherwise forget it.

36 posted on 06/07/2013 2:26:51 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Marijuana stays in the system for thirty days and will test positive.

Many construction workers are on pain meds because of previous injuries. He may have a prescription for back or leg pain.


37 posted on 06/07/2013 2:28:56 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“A crane operator has to have split second reactions.”

That’s why I suggest the pain killer was more of the problem. Pain killers are “downers,” and they can really slow down the reflexes. But pot could potentiate that effect. But when you’re prescribed a pain killer, the info always says, “Don’t drive or operate heavy machinery.”


38 posted on 06/07/2013 2:29:02 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: kabumpo
If you smoke weed you are impaired for several hours—just like booze. Neither is more dangerous in this respect. You could probably say that more pot smokers are willing to take chances while being stoned-— that is a people issue not a weed issue. It's a good thing people do not go to work or drive drunk because then we would really have to watch out.
39 posted on 06/07/2013 2:44:24 PM PDT by dgbrown
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Non union job! I am a heavy equiptment operator and have operated cranes as well it’s not a job to be messed up on!
It may have been his action that contributed to the collapse, but as a construction worker myself I think the supervision was wrong in it’s method of demolition. One witness mentioned them pulling out a piece of steel that was giving some support just before the collapse. However I have never seen a piece of steel use to shore up a 4 story wall on initial construction, unless they installed it as a safety device.
I for one can not understand the perimiter not being secure to other buildings and citizens in the area! Especially in close proximity.


40 posted on 06/07/2013 2:49:57 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“With his record, why was he even hired to operate a crane?”

You don’t really want to go there do you? (grin)


41 posted on 06/07/2013 2:50:51 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Just makes you want to spend money in CO, doesn’t it. [More than a little irony and sarcasm there.]


42 posted on 06/07/2013 3:18:37 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A drunken crane operator almost impaled me onto a boxcar at Ceco Steel, Lemont, IL, summer of 1968. Looked like this guy in Philly, too...Amish he was.


43 posted on 06/07/2013 3:23:35 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

What, if anything, did the operation of the crane have to do with the building’s collapse? The article says that the crane operator is not being charged with anything.

Also, the article does not say how much of either the pain killer, or the pot were detected in the operator. These tests are very sensitive, so a “detectable” amount can be far less than required for impairment.


44 posted on 06/07/2013 3:31:43 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

RIIIGHT; and some moron who is so smoked out that he can’t win the game of “FIND YOUR OWN FOOT” is OK to operate a motor vehicle or heavy equipment?
NOT on my job site slick, in fact I would have had him jailed and out of of the Operator Engineers forever.


45 posted on 06/07/2013 4:17:18 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Get that man some medical marijuana... pot does not hurt anyone, it's a victimless crime.

At least the legal drug alcohol doesn't impair people... except for the fact that it's worse (in terms of death and violence) than all illegal drugs combined.

Prohibitionists are Tyrants. And criminal negligence is criminal negligence.

This guy isn't a criminal because he smoked weed, he's a criminal because he operated a very dangerous piece of equipment while under the influence of drugs. Whether the drugs in question were legal or not is irrelevant.

Personally, if forced to make such a choice, I'd rather have somebody who is stoned on weed operating a crane long before I'd settle for someone who has had several alcoholic beverages.

46 posted on 06/07/2013 4:26:56 PM PDT by sargon
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To: TheBattman

Just looking at numbers would be a fool’s errand. There’s the potential of “impairment”, however measured, from MJ, and from the painkiller, and from the combination.


47 posted on 06/07/2013 7:01:20 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

I was a union ironworker for 15 years till a crane knocked me off the steel and broke my back falling three floors.


48 posted on 06/07/2013 10:50:45 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SeeSharp
No more so than alcohol.

Alcohol wasn't found in his system, was it?

49 posted on 06/07/2013 10:54:05 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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