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British Intelligence watchdog flies to Washington to demand answers on snooping scandal
Telegraph (UK) ^

Posted on 06/07/2013 6:57:27 PM PDT by Perdogg

The Government's Intelligence and Security Committee is going on a week-long tour, when it will meet senior figures from the America’s intelligence agencies.

The news came after leaked US documents appeared to show that Britain’s listening post GCHQ has been secretly gathering intelligence from some of the world’s biggest internet firms through America’s National Security Agency.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gchq; obamaspeople; scotlandyard; terrorism; threatmatrix; unitedkingdom; waronterror

1 posted on 06/07/2013 6:57:27 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

The NSA is spying on the WORLD ?


2 posted on 06/07/2013 6:59:57 PM PDT by molson209
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To: molson209

The rest of the world ...for a very long time now.


3 posted on 06/07/2013 7:02:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: molson209

Isn’t Obama meeting Chinese President Xi Xinping right now. That must be awkward. Both are probably asking the same question: “Why are you hacking into my e-mails?”


4 posted on 06/07/2013 7:02:26 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

Obama is just handing over some things the Chinese missed


5 posted on 06/07/2013 7:05:47 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Perdogg

Ah, those leaks that were so patriotic under Bush are now so despised by His Arrogance and his lackeys.


6 posted on 06/07/2013 7:08:16 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (But for an ignorant electorate Slow Joe would have become a circus clown or union thug.)
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To: molson209

Helps to read the article rather than just the headline.

The British are upset at the leak, not the spying, because we were sharing PRISM data with their NSA-equivalent, the GCHQ.

The UK and US have been joined at the hip in highly classified signals intelligence since World War II, a relationship built on trust and that both sides would do everything possible to prevent compromise. We’ve been outraged when the British have had traitors compromising shared intelligence, and now the British are undoubtedly outraged at us.


7 posted on 06/07/2013 7:11:17 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

The UK is the USAs best friend.

bama is trying to drive a wedge between us.


8 posted on 06/07/2013 7:17:50 PM PDT by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: LucyT; thouworm; maggief; Myrddin; shibumi; Hardraade; Candor7; Absolutely Nobama; caww; ...
Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar? You stole the cookie from the cookie jar. Who me? Yes, you. Couldn't be. Then WHO?
9 posted on 06/07/2013 7:23:44 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Perdogg

For me, none of this stuff about Prism is surprising except for the particulars. Remember similar programs run back in the nineties, where electronic traffic was being scanned and vacuumed up based on key words? This is probably more advanced since technology is no doubt better. But same idea.

Back then, though, you were a conspiracy theorist if you talked about it. Now you have the president, O if anyone has forgotten, confirming its existence on nationwide TV. And the news companies running the story around the clock.

For me, this is just another classified national secret exposed by the Democrats. Like exposing on page one of the New York Times how we were monitoring Bin Ladin’s communications, how we tracked his money flows, the secret eastern european safe houses, the secret airline for transporting prisoners, all exposed by the Dems and their pals in the press. Now they expose PRISM and blab on about it while expressly *not* talking about Benghazi, running guns to the mafia, running guns to Al Qaeda, knocking over governments on behalf of Muslim Brotherhood, spying on congress, siccing the IRS on their enemies, siccing the EPA and OSHA and Interior on their enemies, and on and on.

This is par for the course. If there is something you don’t want to talk about, flood the air with an alternate scandal and the other scandals fade away into the shadows. Clinton was a master at this and so are Obama’s handlers.


10 posted on 06/07/2013 7:27:54 PM PDT by marron
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To: Perdogg

0bama’s doing a great job of sabotaging our foreign relations. Britain should’ve cut all ties to the U.S. the moment 0bama returned the bust of Winston Churchill.


11 posted on 06/07/2013 7:28:52 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: TexGrill
Isn’t Obama meeting Chinese President Xi Xinping right now. That must be awkward. Both are probably asking the same question: “Why are you hacking into my e-mails?”

"You're fine, how am I?"

12 posted on 06/07/2013 7:29:29 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Strategerist

If the British want to help the American people they could go to their archives and produce the documentation that is referred to in the table of content in referance to the child born to Obama Sr in 1961!


13 posted on 06/07/2013 7:29:55 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: MestaMachine

Caught with his pants down around his ankles. The eyes of the world are on him. It’s not just a bunch of conservatives and tea party people criticizing him. The pit bull tactics have worn thin and are causing many to not believe the president’s excuses or to trust what government people under him are doing right under his nose (despite hundreds of trips by them to HIS office).


14 posted on 06/07/2013 7:34:20 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Perdogg

I think Obama has had another terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week.


15 posted on 06/07/2013 7:37:29 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: hoosiermama
If there was only a real life Neil Burnside of SIS like in the Sandbaggers TV show.


16 posted on 06/07/2013 7:39:29 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Perdogg

doing the work Americans (press) won’t do.


17 posted on 06/07/2013 7:44:40 PM PDT by llevrok (Joe Biden is the Fredo Corleone of the Obama crime family.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Not only that, they should have checked if it was bugged.

It probably was.


18 posted on 06/07/2013 7:46:03 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: MamaDearest

Think maybe he jumped the shark when he leaked Israel’s TS launchbase?


19 posted on 06/07/2013 7:48:52 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: kennyboy509

> The UK is the USAs best friend.

bama is trying to drive a wedge between us.

Andre rest of the world, especially Israel.


20 posted on 06/07/2013 7:53:28 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

> The UK is the USAs best friend.

bama is trying to drive a wedge between us.

And the rest of the world, especially Israel.


21 posted on 06/07/2013 7:54:49 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: MestaMachine; MamaDearest

Yup, you really really don’t wanna pi$$ off the Israelis ....

Remember the “Nazi Hunters”?

Nuff said.


22 posted on 06/07/2013 7:56:17 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: marron

I agree with both your posts - you get it!


23 posted on 06/07/2013 8:08:58 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: marron; Perdogg

Do you remember this story -

CIA probes British spy murder as it emerges he was sent on frequent missions to Pentagon’s high-security listening post
By Charlotte Gill, Emily Andrews and Liz Hull
UPDATED:03:01 EST, 27 August 2010

...”The Daily Mail can reveal that the 31-year-old codebreaker flew to the National Security Agency, the Pentagon’s listening post and the largest intelligence agency in the world, up to four times a year. He returned from his last trip to America only a few weeks before he was found dead.

Questions also remain over why his body lay undiscovered for up to a fortnight at his£400,000 flat in a Victorian townhouse in Pimlico, central London, half a mile from MI6 headquarters.

Mr Williams worked at the Government’s listening post, GCHQ in Cheltenham, but had been on secondment to MI6 for the past year and was due to return to GCHQ next Friday...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1306549/CIA-probes-British-spy-murder-frequent-missions-Pentagons-high-security-listening-post.html


24 posted on 06/07/2013 8:22:21 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Perdogg

hussein doesn’t care who he leaks on (pun or not). A couple days ago it was Israel and today it’s England. Any bets on who it’ll be tomorrow?


25 posted on 06/07/2013 8:35:54 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: Perdogg; All

26 posted on 06/07/2013 8:51:21 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: wally_bert

Great programme, thought I was the only person here who remembers it. I have the DVD’s and the original tie-in novels.


27 posted on 06/08/2013 3:30:28 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: bronxville

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams


28 posted on 06/08/2013 3:32:11 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

I discovered it back in the 80s on Sunday late night public TV. I’ve got the DVDs and maybe one of the novels. They also ran some others like Bulman, Target, Star Cops, and Bergerac.

To me, Sandbaggers is a very well done series given the probably very low budget it had.

Ray Lonnen (Willie) is on Twitter fwiw.


29 posted on 06/08/2013 4:22:19 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Perdogg

We can’t spy on our citizens so the Britss do it and give us info , and of course visa version. That’s how Echelon worked I believe.
So technically Obama is telling the truth, he isn’t listening to our phone calls, but the Brits are.


30 posted on 06/08/2013 4:34:13 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: wally_bert

Never really watched Bulman, never watched any Star Cops, watched Bergerac every week (in fact there is talk of a new version with a younger lead actor), Target was in fact taken off air by the BBC in 1978 as it was too violent.


31 posted on 06/08/2013 6:40:03 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

Bulman was OK, Star Cops had a good theme and some ideas. Bergerac was routine Sunday night viewing as long as NC Public TV ran it, 2 or 3 years I think. Target had a great theme and I liked the action from what I remembered.

Another one they ran was Shoestring. I loved it too.


32 posted on 06/08/2013 6:44:40 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: wally_bert

Shoestring was very good. Trevor Eve became a sex symbol here. lol.


33 posted on 06/08/2013 8:27:06 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Perdogg.
...after leaked US documents appeared to show that Britain’s listening post GCHQ has been secretly gathering intelligence from some of the world’s biggest internet firms through America’s National Security Agency.

34 posted on 06/08/2013 9:20:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: the scotsman

Liz Crowther wasn’t too bad on the eyes at least in my opinion.

I read once that Shoestring may not see DVD due to the pain of music rights. It is one I would love to have. Throw in Target as well.


35 posted on 06/08/2013 9:48:51 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Strategerist

I recall a story a few years back that said the UK gov’t monitors US phone calls and the US gov’t monitors UK calls. Then they exchange the info. If I recall, the point was that this supposedly got around the protections in place for the citizens of both states. Does anyone remember this? It could have been some crazy thing like WND but I seem to recall that they showed a weird looking gov’t building in the UK that supposedly was where they were listening in.

FReegards


36 posted on 06/08/2013 9:51:00 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: LyinLibs

Why only Verizon? Why not AT&T also? Could it be that the gov’t uses AT&T and doesn’t want snoops looking/collecting info?


37 posted on 06/08/2013 9:57:53 AM PDT by IM2MAD (IM2MAD=Individual Motivated 2 Make A Difference)
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To: wally_bert

Target was the BBC’s attempt to do their own version of the classic, iconic ITV cop action show ‘The Sweeney’ (which was recently remade as a film). The Sweeney was brilliant: real hard as nails police, based as it was on the famous london ‘Flying Squad’.

I would be happy to recommend any great British TV programme or film, from the 1940’s to today. British film and TV is a passion of mine.


38 posted on 06/08/2013 10:29:30 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

I have season one of the Sweeney here plus the soundtrack. The most I know of the movie remake is when Jeremy and Richard lend their “expertise” to the angry man who was directing.


39 posted on 06/09/2013 5:24:30 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: wally_bert

Its a good film, not great, but good.


40 posted on 06/09/2013 6:12:38 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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