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Dad of five faces jail for ‘bashing burglar’ at business (Great Britain)
The Sun (U.K) ^ | June 9, 2013 | Craig Woodhouse

Posted on 06/09/2013 9:04:45 AM PDT by Stoat


Dad of five faces jail for ‘bashing burglar’ at business

EXCLUSIVE

 

By CRAIG WOODHOUSE



 

A DAD of five is facing jail — for confronting two men who were allegedly raiding his business.

Andrew Woodhouse is accused of GBH with intent.

But wife Lisa told The Sun he was trying to defend himself after one alleged raider “came at him” with a plank as he chased them off. Mr Woodhouse grabbed the wood and allegedly used it on Kevin Green, 52, injuring both his legs and an arm.

The offence carries a maximum LIFE sentence.

Mr Woodhouse, 43, was woken at night by a burglar alarm — put in his home after previous raids on his nearby paving firm in Abergavenny, South Wales.

The other alleged burglar, Timothy Cross, 31, is said to have fled and returned with a third man, both wielding planks.

Mr Woodhouse rugby-tackled one and waited for the police.

Green and Cross were charged with theft of fuel from the firm in March. Both will appear at Cwmbran Magistrates’ Court on Thursday — as will Mr Woodhouse after the Crown Prosecution Service decided he used “unreasonable” force.

But Lisa said: “What was Andrew to do? Let them belt him?”

The case comes just months after the law was changed to protect people who use force against burglars. But it only applies in their homes, not if intruders are chased outside.

Mr Woodhouse’s MP, Tory David Davies, called the move to charge him “astonishing”.


ANDREW WOODHOUSE


Facing jail ... Andrew Woodhouse


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; burglar; greatbritain; ungland; unitedkingdom
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Mr Woodhouse’s MP, Tory David Davies, called the move to charge him “astonishing”.

 

 

David Davies - Member of Parliament for Monmouth

 

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Wounding and GBH

(grievous bodily harm)

 

Wounding and Grievous Bodily Harm (GBH)

1 posted on 06/09/2013 9:04:45 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: manc

“Thought you might be interested” ping


2 posted on 06/09/2013 9:05:19 AM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

Three against one but he’s the one facing life behind bars.


3 posted on 06/09/2013 9:10:33 AM PDT by bgill (This post was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Scotsman

Please defend this too...


4 posted on 06/09/2013 9:11:16 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: Stoat

Britain has a higher violent crime rate (except for murder) than the US. The difference is that the criminals are not afraid of having holes put in them by a vigilant citizen over there. Thus, many of their burglaries are live, the burglars are actually taking property right in front of the owners knowing that the owners can do nothing serious to stop them.


5 posted on 06/09/2013 9:11:19 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Stoat

I see story after story similar to this coming out of Great Britain. Truly a fallen nation.


6 posted on 06/09/2013 9:11:30 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Stoat

Churchill is spinning in his grave, and the Magna Carta is furiously burning.


7 posted on 06/09/2013 9:12:15 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Stoat

demand a jury trial

put me on the jury

he would walk


8 posted on 06/09/2013 9:12:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: bgill

Next time, bash them unto death and hide the bodies.

SSS.


9 posted on 06/09/2013 9:13:12 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Lucky for him the burglars weren’t muslims. Max sentence would be imposed for sure. You know, the religion of pieces.


10 posted on 06/09/2013 9:16:09 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Parley Baer

Some’ow, mutated into sheep, they ‘ave. Jolly good, what.

Fancy ‘alf the male population, takin’ wooden planks, an’ marchin’ on Parliament.

Right. Carry on.


11 posted on 06/09/2013 9:18:31 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: BobL; Scotsman
Please defend this too

I'll look forward to that myself.

12 posted on 06/09/2013 9:19:50 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Stoat

Lefties/fascists don’t believe in the rule of law. Even when you change the law, they still do whatever they want.


13 posted on 06/09/2013 9:21:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: Stoat

It would be interesting to have some info on the robbers. I wonder if they are members of a “protected class”.


14 posted on 06/09/2013 9:24:00 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: cdcdawg; All
It would be interesting to have some info on the robbers. I wonder if they are members of a “protected class”.

 

Unfortunately, this is an "exclusive" story to The Sun and as yet I haven't seen it reported anywhere else.  I would imagine we'll be seeing more details emerge later on today or tomorrow.

15 posted on 06/09/2013 9:29:48 AM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

16 posted on 06/09/2013 9:33:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: Stoat

Ban wooden planks. My God, our children!


17 posted on 06/09/2013 9:40:29 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Stoat

The UK is done. Criminals are aided by the police.
This is what Socialism does to a nation.


18 posted on 06/09/2013 10:00:28 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: onedoug

It’s just common sense to ban high-capacity assault planks.


19 posted on 06/09/2013 10:01:17 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: onedoug

It’s just common sense to ban high-capacity assault planks.


20 posted on 06/09/2013 10:01:37 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: onedoug
Ban wooden planks. [ . . .] our children!

If they can outlaw fox hunting, they can outlaw cricket.
21 posted on 06/09/2013 10:24:04 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Stoat

Maybe the Brits should provide training in Islam, then they can be very politically correct.


22 posted on 06/09/2013 10:31:45 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Stoat

Shoot, shovel, shut up.

Or in this case, finish beating to death with plank, shovel, shut up.


23 posted on 06/09/2013 10:33:33 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: BobL; Fightin Whitey

I am not going to, this is a ridiculous charge, and hopefully the judge will thrown this out straight away and lambast the CPS.

I was a victim in Sept 2008 of a similar burglary, in which I punched the burglar and restrained him. All I got was a pat on the back from the police and judge at court.


24 posted on 06/09/2013 10:46:06 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: palmer

Firstly, the UK-US difference has more to with classification of crime rather than the UK being rampantly more violent than the US.

Secondly, most burglaries arent live, they take place when the victim isnt home.

Thirdly, this stupid charge dosent change the fact that UK citizens ARE allowed to defend their property, even to death if necessary (burglar stabbed to death in Manchester last year-—homeowner no charge). As I have just posted, I myself was the victim of a burglary and used violence to defend myself and property. For which I was commended.

The law has even been strengthened, but the CPS is stupidly using the ‘he was outside’ angle and lack of common sense. The law clearly needs to be tightened, as the CPS is using this loophole to waste the courts time with a stupid charge.


25 posted on 06/09/2013 10:52:07 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

In court, were you? Then you were arrested for defending yourself and yes, yes, I know, I know, it’s just a formality that the judge throws out every time.

Like fun it is.


26 posted on 06/09/2013 10:52:31 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Stoat

I will keep you all updated with this case.


27 posted on 06/09/2013 10:52:37 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: Parley Baer

Fallen, but not finished. No more than stupid stories out of the US means America is finished.


28 posted on 06/09/2013 10:53:39 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: Stoat

Without reading this crap, who determines what is GBH? To me it means I shot off your right arm, your left knee cap and your pecker.


29 posted on 06/09/2013 11:02:34 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: the scotsman
Firstly, the UK-US difference has more to with classification of crime rather than the UK being rampantly more violent than the US

I admit that the UK is not a lot more violent. But the US has a larger underclass that tends to be more violent. The US also has a powerful deterrent for people who would be victims in the UK. Specifically the rape rate is higher in the UK and I doubt that is due to classification. In the US a rapist may get shot by a potential victim, but not in the UK.

30 posted on 06/09/2013 11:36:18 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Stoat

The criminals in business suits have to protect their fellow criminals on the streets!


31 posted on 06/09/2013 11:40:41 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: the scotsman
America is finished.

A lot of people would argue we have passed our peak. Too many moochers relying on the government here means they are also willing to sign away their God-given rights for a free meal. Looking at the big picture, the British empire fell and the decline followed decades later and the same will probably happen here. The decline is not complete by any stretch but I don't see it turning around.

32 posted on 06/09/2013 11:41:16 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: dagogo redux

Stiff upper lip!


33 posted on 06/09/2013 11:50:40 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: the scotsman
Firstly, the UK-US difference has more to with classification of crime rather than the UK being rampantly more violent than the US.

That's a lie and both you and your buddy Piers Morgan know it.

By any definition one uses for muggings, rapes, burglaries, robberies and murders the UK is almost exponentially more violent than the United States.

There are more muggings, rapes, burglaries, robberies, murders, beatings, etc.. in the U.K. per 100,000 people than in the U.S.

That's fact.

It's also fact that on the list of most violent countries according to U.N. Statistics (something you socialists should be embracing) the U.K. is in the top 100 most violent countries in the world. The United States isn't even in the top 100.

Take your bullshit lies elsewhere.

34 posted on 06/09/2013 11:54:50 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: palmer

Absolutely terrible, hope more Britons start getting extremely vocal, and the UKIP party gaining ground is a very hopeful sign that things may change for the better.


35 posted on 06/09/2013 11:56:42 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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FUGB, and all the backstabbing, pedantic rules through which you persecute the good citizens you obviously do not deserve.


36 posted on 06/09/2013 11:57:38 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: palmer; don-o; the scotsman

the scotsman: America is finished.


palmer: A lot of people would argue we have passed our peak. Too many moochers relying on the government here means they are also willing to sign away their God-given rights for a free meal. Looking at the big picture, the British empire fell and the decline followed decades later and the same will probably happen here. The decline is not complete by any stretch but I don’t see it turning around.


lj: It will turn around for sure. Just has to get really bad. Millions of people hate what’s happening and are getting more motivated every day.


37 posted on 06/09/2013 12:01:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: usconservative
Take your bullshit lies elsewhere.

A lot of us here agree with you.

38 posted on 06/09/2013 12:02:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Stoat

That’s England, a country with its collective stiff upper lip up its collective anal sphincter.


39 posted on 06/09/2013 12:07:10 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: usconservative

Murder rate:

UK: 1.2 per 100000
US: 4.8 per 100000

Rape: the % figures are equal.


40 posted on 06/09/2013 12:16:05 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: usconservative

Gun Murders in England, Scotland and Wales 2011/12

‘There were 640 Murders / Homicides in Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) in 2011/12 (10.43 per million population)

Of these 640 Murders / Homicides, 44 involved a gun or firearm as the main weapon.

Gun murders in Britain in 2011/12 represent 6% of the murder cases, (0.72 gun homicides per million population).’

http://www.citizensreportuk.org/reports/murders-fatal-violence-uk.html


41 posted on 06/09/2013 12:16:51 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: usconservative

1—I despise Morgan, and everyone here knows it. I have said so many times. He faked photos of Iraqis being beaten by British troops, and as an ex-British Para, I have twice the reason to despise him as most civilian British already do.

2—I also have stated many times that I am a conservative. Ex-Tory, now UKIP. I have never been a socialist, and think it is a ruinous ideology.

3—Why the need to be so rude?. By all means, debate me on crime figures, but no need to attack me personally.

BTW, I agree that % wise, burglaries and muggings are higher in the UK, but rape figures are equal, and the US murder rate is FOUR times the UK’s. And the US gun murder rate is SIXTEEN times the UK’s.


42 posted on 06/09/2013 12:21:22 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: palmer

Neither the US or UK are what they once were, but neither country is finished.


43 posted on 06/09/2013 12:22:08 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: little jeremiah; the scotsman
Just to be clear, "the scotsman" did not say America was finished, he was pointing out that the UK was not finished any more than American is not finished.

I hope you are correct lj and more people wake the heck up. I have to deal with libs every day and they are convinced that the only problem with our country is Republicans standing in the way of progress. Needless to say the rest of us are going to have to stand and fight without them.

44 posted on 06/09/2013 12:28:13 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: usconservative

There are 28 different types of assault on the UK statute books. Whilst nobody, least of all me, would disagree that the UK is more violent than it was, the fact is that classification of crime in the UK definately skews the figures and makes the UK look more violent than it is.

Otherwise, you have to believe that the UK has gone from a nation famous for being polite and virtually crime free to a nation so violent, it is more violent than the US, a nation notorious for city crime, gang violence and which has 75% of all the world serial killers living in it, a nation who has 15000 people murdered by guns every year.

Do you, or any American, honestly think Britain is a far more violent nation than the US. Really?. More violent than it was 50 or even 25 yrs ago, but worse than the US, with all your violence?. Really?.

I am 43 this year. I have been the victim of crime ONCE in my 25 yrs as an adult living in the UK. The last 25 yrs where crime in the UK has risen.

You also forget one huge fact: that the rise in UK crime comes from a level of violence that was almost non-existant. Britain was until recently a nation where famously violence (murders, rapes) were incredibly low, and the famous British bobby didnt need anything except his trusty truncheon. America was famous for being very violent. Britain was famous for being the complete opposite.


45 posted on 06/09/2013 12:31:13 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman
And the US gun murder rate is SIXTEEN times the UK's.

And the difference is nearly entirely due to gang murders in the cities. We have more murder, but that's the price we pay for freedom. Most of us here will never be victims of murder, on the contrary even as we age we will be less apt to be victims due to deterrence (at least in the rural area I live in) and can defend ourselves with lethal force even when we lack the physical strength to fend off 3 young attackers with planks.

46 posted on 06/09/2013 12:33:21 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: the scotsman
thanks, for the report from across "the pond"
stay safe..armed. 8-)

47 posted on 06/09/2013 12:35:15 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Thank you.

I hate these threads, in defending the UK, it makes me look like I am bashing the US.

BTW, I am a minority: a gun owning Brit. lol


48 posted on 06/09/2013 12:37:29 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman
I am 43 this year. I have been the victim of crime ONCE in my 25 yrs as an adult living in the UK. The last 25 yrs where crime in the UK has risen.

That depends on where you live and where you work. Do you ride public transportation through bad areas? I live in the rural areas now but spent a few years close to the worst section of a city. Walked and rode through high crime areas. I am 50 now and more careful, but have not been victimized by any type of crime against me or my property and I carry thousands of dollars in cash and cash equivalents at times.

49 posted on 06/09/2013 12:37:39 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: palmer

I live in a large town (by UK standards), bar two years on a farm. I have worked and lived in Glasgow, the UK’s hardest and most violent city. As well as Paisley, which was once Europe’s murder capital (by % of murder). I have driven and walked through some of the UK’s worst areas. With a company car, expensive suits and watch, mobile phone etc.

For all that, my one crime was ironically a burglary in my own home!.


50 posted on 06/09/2013 12:41:43 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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