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Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance
GUARDIAN ^ | Sunday 9 June 2013 14.27 EDT | Glenn Greenwald, Ewen MacAskill and Laura Poitras in Hong Kong

Posted on 06/09/2013 11:41:17 AM PDT by sunmars

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To: sunmars

Obama has brought the fears of Socialist, George Orwell’s “1984” to life!!! He knew exactly where socialism was going and threw up the warning flags in “Animal Farm” & “1984”!!! Limbaugh is right, Obama is seizing the government. Hillary Clinton will never see a POTUS nomination. Our Republic, Democracy, Freedom, Liberty, Opportunity is dying with each passing day!!! Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Chavez, Mao, Hussein, the Muslim Brotherhood, etc. live, control, choose who lives or dies, who goes to prison, etc. Wow......short life for the USA!!!! We have seen our last POTUS election!!!


141 posted on 06/09/2013 2:09:10 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Pollster1

Globalism, i.e., the financial oligarchy (London and NY finance, etc., the people who talk about new world order, etc., including the Bush dynasty, the Delano dynasty, etc., all liberal Republicans, the neocon movement lead by Harvard alumni, the far left, Democratic party, etc.), unbeknownst to most folks, created the idea of global communism/socialism/etc. Wall Street actually financially assisted in the Bolshevik revolution.

It’s hard to get one’s mind around until you look at very simply: the financial oligarchy uses communism to capture states (national governments) in nations where the public will submit to it.

Those communist nations inevitably come to them for capital; loans, investment, etc. And then... it’s one deal, and they have the whole nation as a customer. It’s a captured market, a total monopoly. And there’s no chance of a lot of people getting beyond middle class and start encroaching on their monopolies.

The left-wing agenda is, therefore, one part of globalism.

Left-wing news media corporations in the UK and US are either publicly held (their boards are then filled with globalist minions) or privately held (by families dedicated to fulfilling Wall Street’s agenda (like the NY Times).

The left wing propaganda sells so well to the poor and ignorant because it rants against capitalism - so the globalists control the newspapers that attack them. It gives great credibility to the newspapers, but at the same time the newspapers have always kept what is truly damaging to globalism out of the news. If you create and control your own enemies, your enemies will never beat you.

Notice now with this scandal... we are all talking about the US government spying on Americans, we’re not talking at all about any relationship the CIA has with the financial oligarchy.

When the Obama administration gets slammed in the UK press, the worst that can happen to the transnational financial oligarchy is that a guy like their man Romney would win the next election instead of their man Obama.

It’s when people start finding out about the oligarchy and it’s control of the US government that the oligarchs would be in danger. To counter this, they’ve always had their “this is a conspiracy theory” protection that they set up by having a few conspiracy theories about themselves that have some crazy claims embedded in them published from time to time.


142 posted on 06/09/2013 2:10:32 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
If he were ‘off’d’, wouldn’t that be kind of obvious that it was a hit

Example: Overdose of drugs and alcohol in the bathtub of a locked room with a suicide note. "Just couldn't handle the pressure/pain/insert whatever __________ anymore. I'm sorry for what I did to my family."

143 posted on 06/09/2013 2:10:34 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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"But after the intense political controversy he has already created with just the first week's haul of stories, "I feel satisfied that this was all worth it. I have no regrets."

Does that mean that there is more to be revealed or just that the first week of reporting has been huge with more stories expected from the already exposed information?

144 posted on 06/09/2013 2:16:45 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
A 'puter geek with four years inside NSA as a consultant????

System Administrators see everything. If they didn't how could they do their jobs? I say this as a guy who has had access to everything from credit cards to passwords to authentication mechanisms. You can't debug that garbage unless you can rebuild from scratch and look at everything that comes in on a hex code level.

I'm sure this guy has got lots of nice stuff secreted away.

145 posted on 06/09/2013 2:17:20 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: NautiNurse

Or as in the case of Breightbart[sp?], heart attack. Or as in the case of Vince Foster, suicide. Or as in the case of Jim Mc Dougal, accident. One can count on however they choose to make the hit, the media will play the self inflicted , accident, or medical angle and many on this forum will parrot the media’s version. At this point in time, I would hate to be the insurance company that holds his life insurance policy.


146 posted on 06/09/2013 2:17:55 PM PDT by sport
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To: sunmars

I’ve never been big on revealing secret information. So I can’t praise this man for what he’s done.


147 posted on 06/09/2013 2:18:39 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: sunmars

Youtube has multiple copies of this now. I believe this will be the story of the current US generation.


148 posted on 06/09/2013 2:21:28 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: fso301

None of this adds up in my mind. Unless he has a sizeable inheritance behind him, for how long can a 29 year old expect to remain holed up in a Hong Kong hotel?


True.

He also has to have serious security otherwise....

Also the chicoms will be watching him with great interest.

Prayers for him & his family.


149 posted on 06/09/2013 2:21:58 PM PDT by 99Floyd (I hate zero and all his eevil string pullers)
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To: eddie willers
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Neither Manning or Snowden show any trace of irrational or otherwise mentally deficient behavior.

150 posted on 06/09/2013 2:22:37 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I fear you are right! Even so come LORD JESUS.


151 posted on 06/09/2013 2:24:19 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: fso301

The article says he was making $200,000 a year.

Snowden was smart to come out while OweBowMao was visiting China. It might help him maintain sanctuary in China since his revelations neuter any lectures about human rights the Oval Occupant might have in store for Xi Jinping.

This guy is no Bradley Manning. He seems principled.

“”I carefully evaluated every single document I disclosed to ensure that each was legitimately in the public interest,” he said. “There are all sorts of documents that would have made a big impact that I didn’t turn over, because harming people isn’t my goal. Transparency is.””

“I could have sold these documents to any number of countries and gotten very rich.””


152 posted on 06/09/2013 2:26:17 PM PDT by A'elian' nation
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

It will be ruled as “natural causes” like Breitbart, or “suicide” (Arkencide). It might be an “accident”.

A lot of bad stuff happened to people around the Klinton Syndicate, and yet none dared call it murder.

The spooks these days have innumerable ways of killing someone, and only if they want to make it obvious and send a message will they just blow the target up or shoot them.

This guy must know that he’s doomed to martyrdom and may have doomed some of his family members as well. I hope it was worth it.


153 posted on 06/09/2013 2:28:43 PM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: sunmars

Daniel Ellsberg was nothing a total left wing exaggeration.


154 posted on 06/09/2013 2:35:48 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: InterceptPoint

My suspicions exactly...what’s his angle for attacking Americans and America’s defenders, the patriots who believe in the objective of the Founding Fathers and their intent in the US Constitution.


155 posted on 06/09/2013 2:39:43 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: EBH

Don’t underestimate the fear of being branded a racist and being accused of branding America as still racist for daring to even mention the possibility of impeachment for the ‘first black president.’

That has neutered a lot of lap dogs in the RNC.


156 posted on 06/09/2013 2:42:56 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: sunmars

He talks about his ‘partner’ which in homo speak means he’s a sodomite.

seems that they are big leakers.....

no pun intended.


157 posted on 06/09/2013 2:49:12 PM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: Texas Fossil
This guy may defect to the ChiComs.

I was a bit confused that a traitor who leaked Top Secret material and is hiding out in Hong Kong is a hero...I thought I'd mistakely gone to DU or something.

Anyway, he's probably already given the Chicoms a decent amount of TS to get some spending money for his sure to be long forthcoming celebrity exile.

158 posted on 06/09/2013 2:54:20 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

? He talks about his girlfriend. The FBI and NSA have already visited her.


159 posted on 06/09/2013 2:56:08 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz
He talks about his ‘partner’

If true, I'm going to grab some popcorn and ROFL at the giant screeching 180 that FR does on this guy.

160 posted on 06/09/2013 2:58:04 PM PDT by Strategerist
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