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Security Expert: PRISM Did Not Foil 2009 Subway Plot The British Did (Video)
Gateway Pundit ^ | June 9, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 06/09/2013 1:40:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Security Expert Lt. Colonel Tony Shaffer, from the Center for Advanced Defense Studies, told FOX News today that PRISM did not catch the 2009 New York Subway bombers, the British did.

“Let me say very clearly. The 2009 thing is a MacGuffin. They did not use this program to get the 2009 bombing stopped. It was actually the British who helped us do that. And, more importantly they missed the Major Hassan Nidal attack. He was in touch with Anwar al-Awlaki. And, we missed the Boston bombing, too.”

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

Buzzfeed backs this up:

Defenders of the American government’s online spying program known as “PRISM” claimed Friday that the suddenly controversial secret effort had saved New York City’s subways from a 2009 terrorist plot led by a young Afghan-American, Najibullah Zazi.

But British and American legal documents from 2010 and 2011 contradict that claim, which appears to be the latest in a long line of attempts to defend secret programs by making, at best, misleading claims that they were central to stopping terror plots.....

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; bhonsa; fastandfurious; foiled; impeachnow; irs; nsa; obama; prism; terrorism; unitedkingdom; waronterror

1 posted on 06/09/2013 1:40:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And so Mr. Obama....stick it...Your spies stink when aimed at terrorists.


2 posted on 06/09/2013 1:46:21 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even the nyt said the other day that the o WH has zero credibility. But unfortunately the Limbaugh Theorem is only too true. Dumb populace never blames Obama, it’s scary. He may go for a 3rd term or go Putin’s route and install a puppet.


3 posted on 06/09/2013 1:47:37 PM PDT by toddausauras (FUBO x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And what about the Boston Marathon attack?


4 posted on 06/09/2013 1:47:54 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It’s in there.


5 posted on 06/09/2013 1:49:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
making, at best, misleading claims that they were central to stopping terror plots

But waterboarding, actually did solve some terrorist situations (and prevented ? ? ?), and it's horrible and barbaric.

6 posted on 06/09/2013 1:49:06 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Savage was hammering that too on Friday.


7 posted on 06/09/2013 1:50:18 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“And what about the Boston Marathon attack?”

What are you talking about? What is this Boston Marathon attack you speak of? There hasn’t been one terrorist attack on American soil since 2001 and that was on George Bush’s watch.


8 posted on 06/09/2013 1:52:52 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

Domestic welfare violence.


9 posted on 06/09/2013 1:54:35 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All this while Obama was out campaigning and community organizing. Unexpected?


10 posted on 06/09/2013 1:54:41 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guess I owe a link.
Savage Nation 6.7.2013
There are four parts.
11 posted on 06/09/2013 2:00:23 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When you look at the Sept. 11 attack and all subsequent attacks, there is one common theme that jumps out. With the exception of the Fort Hood incident, had our existing immigration laws been strictly enforced, the perpetrators of those attacks would likely not have been in the country to carry out their evil deeds. Now, we are somehow expected to forfeit our 4th amendment rights for some imaginary protection from terrorist while at the same time we are expected to embrace some mythical right for anyone in the world to enter our country at will and remain without hassle. We are expected to believe that our immigration system is broken and can only be fixed by rewarding those who broke it and that we must willingly give up our constitutionally guaranteed protections against oppressive government so that government can keep us free from terrorist who should not be here to start with.


12 posted on 06/09/2013 2:29:20 PM PDT by etcb
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is hard to pay attention to a class of people who you have piously exonerated from even thinking bout wrongdoing but are engaged in serious wrongdoing.


13 posted on 06/09/2013 2:29:58 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Toespi

That little incident in Boston that people get excited about waw nothing but a little harmless playplace violence. Calling attention to it definitely constitutes ‘race’ baiting.


14 posted on 06/09/2013 2:32:22 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It didn’t stop those two Chechen losers from killing or maiming over a dozen people, either.


15 posted on 06/09/2013 2:33:13 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

PRISM wasn’t intended to fight foreign terrorists, but domestic ones, and of course Hitler, I mean Holder, defines terrorism.


16 posted on 06/09/2013 3:59:26 PM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
Security Expert Lt. Colonel Tony Shaffer, from the Center for Advanced Defense Studies, told FOX News today that PRISM did not catch the 2009 New York Subway bombers, the British did.
IOW, Bush had nothing to do with the bust; the incoming Obama administration HAD TO increase its scope; and Bush-era ACLU complaints about libraries' tracking of people referencing bombmaking materials was a gross violation of everyone's civil rights, uh, oops.


17 posted on 06/09/2013 4:09:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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The 2009 thing is a MacGuffin. They did not use this program to get the 2009 bombing stopped. It was actually the British who helped us do that. And, more importantly they missed the Major Hassan Nidal attack. He was in touch with Anwar al-Awlaki. And, we missed the Boston bombing, too.”

Yeah, so the billions spent on spy software didn't get ONE terrorist.

OK.

But did NSA software identify Republican donors for the IRS to target? (they had to be doing something, right?)

18 posted on 06/09/2013 4:17:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC is to news channels as Ringling Bros' Clown College is to Harvard University. - - Greenfield)
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To: gotribe
DING DING DING DING

We have a winner.

19 posted on 06/09/2013 4:47:06 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

These are excuses to tap our phone records to “get” the enimies of Obama and the Progs. The Phone seizure did nothing but help Obama win the second term. He must be removed from Office.


20 posted on 06/09/2013 6:15:15 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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