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Trial begins for George Zimmerman, accused of murdering Florida teen Trayvon Martin
Fox News ^ | June 09, 2013 | Fox News

Posted on 06/09/2013 2:34:44 PM PDT by Ron C.

The trial of George Zimmerman, the Florida neighborhood watch captain accused of murdering teen Trayvon Martin while on patrol, begins Monday with jury selection.

The February 12, 2012, incident in central Florida sparked a fierce national debate about such issues as gun control, equal justice and race after Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, fatally shot Martin, a black teenager.

There is no disputing that Zimmerman fired his 9-mm. handgun after calling police, exiting his pickup truck to follow Martin, then getting into a fight with the 17-year-old on a rainy night inside the gated Retreat at Twin Lakes community.

The 29-year-old Zimmerman, who had a concealed weapon permit, has admitted to shooting Martin in the chest.

But Zimmerman says the teen circled back and attacked him as he walked back to his truck – punching him in the face and slamming the back of his head into the sidewalk.

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KEYWORDS: bigotry; racism; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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Near the end of the article is this:

"Under Florida law, a person can lawfully shoot somebody in self-defense to prevent their own death or great bodily harm."

With a guy on top of you, beating your head against the pavement, who would not fear for their life?

1 posted on 06/09/2013 2:34:44 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

If you think he will get a FAIR trial, I got some property in West Texas from where you can see the Brooklyn Bridge, you need to buy from me. $1 an acre.


2 posted on 06/09/2013 2:39:55 PM PDT by Bibman (Tea Party since 1976)
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To: Ron C.

Debunking the stand your ground myth

Whatever happened on the night that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, we know one thing for sure: The gun prohibition lobbies and their compliant media friends have been deceiving the public about Florida’s laws. Among the many deceits is the claim that Florida’s “stand your ground” law affects the legality of whatever Mr. Zimmerman did.

The assertion that Florida law allows shooting whenever someone believes it to be necessary is a flat-out lie. The actual law of Florida is that “a person is justified in the use of deadly force” if “(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony” (Florida Statutes, Section 776.012).

The second part of the law provides special provisions for self-defense against violent home invaders or carjackers. Neither of those is relevant to the Zimmerman case.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/2/debunking-the-stand-your-ground-myth/


3 posted on 06/09/2013 2:40:49 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Ron C.

Did they finally manage to find enough kangaroos for this court?


4 posted on 06/09/2013 2:41:25 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Ron C.
Zimmerman says Martin grabbed the gun first and fired????

Who wrote this crap?

5 posted on 06/09/2013 2:42:28 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Ron C.

That we even need a law that states that is about the most insane thing I ever heard. It’s like saying “You have the right not to get killed” Oh really? Well thank you for informing me of that. I was all set to get killed next time I get mugged.

On the other hand I guess it is a necessary law being that liberals are telling Zimmerman he did *not* have the right to defend his life. He should have accepted his death “like a man”. This world just gets more and more insane doesn’t it.


6 posted on 06/09/2013 2:43:22 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Ron C.

The trial is a sham. George Zimmerman clearly acted in self-defense and Travon Martin simply picked on the wrong guy to assault that fateful night. The local police had no intention of arresting Zimmerman but once the leftmedia glommed onto the story and played up the race angle, the Florida state prosecutor felt compelled to charge Zimmerman. As the trial begins, the race hustlers will be out in force, sending a pointed message that the ‘right’ verdict must be delivered or riots will ensue. We can only hope and pray that the jury will show some integrity (and guts) by acquitting Zimmerman but I’m not optimistic - and that is what saddens me about this case.


7 posted on 06/09/2013 2:44:37 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Ron C.

MSNBC has stated that they want to “own” this trial...in an attempt to get their rating back out of the toilet..Al Sharpton will be presenting a balanced overview of each day’s proceedings on his 6PM show..and he has hired Tawana Brawley as his inside the courtroom reporter..


8 posted on 06/09/2013 2:54:59 PM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: Jim Scott
"We can only hope and pray that the jury will show some integrity (and guts) by acquitting Zimmerman but I’m not optimistic - and that is what saddens me about this case."

A very fast acquittal will restore this travesty to it's proper place in case law. Anything other than that will be seen as lawless lynching by racist blacks.

9 posted on 06/09/2013 2:58:18 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: ken5050

I heard Tawana can’t be there Tuesday. Crystal Magnum will fill in for her that day.


10 posted on 06/09/2013 2:59:13 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
"This world just gets more and more insane doesn’t it."

Just the fact that this trial is underway is insane - and blatantly racist.

11 posted on 06/09/2013 2:59:52 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
What vote by a jury is necessary for conviction in this case, unanimous or some lesser number?
12 posted on 06/09/2013 3:00:14 PM PDT by deport
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To: Sacajaweau

I think I will tape Sharpton’s show...you have to figure that he will go completely off the rails on this..


13 posted on 06/09/2013 3:00:40 PM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: ken5050
MSNBC has stated that they want to “own” this trial...in an attempt to get their rating back out of the toilet

They can have it. I'll catch the highlights every few days elsewhere, but will be busy watching the fall of Obama unfold as the PRISM scandal starts to go ballistic.

14 posted on 06/09/2013 3:01:08 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Ron C.

“Under Florida law, a person can lawfully shoot somebody in self-defense to prevent their own death or great bodily harm.”

Case dismissed!


15 posted on 06/09/2013 3:01:26 PM PDT by doc
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"Zimmerman says Martin grabbed the gun first and fired????"

Yeah - whoever wrote is a big part of the problem we face in this nation.

16 posted on 06/09/2013 3:01:26 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: TurboZamboni

So if a person is beating up a police officer they’re not allowed to shot in self defense?


17 posted on 06/09/2013 3:03:52 PM PDT by doc
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To: TurboZamboni

So if a person is beating up a police officer they’re not allowed to shot in self defense?


18 posted on 06/09/2013 3:04:10 PM PDT by doc
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To: TurboZamboni
"The actual law of Florida is that “a person is justified in the use of deadly force” if “(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself..."

Stop right there. Are you saying that Zimmerman is not protected by that law?

19 posted on 06/09/2013 3:05:50 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Mr. K

Of all the sad stories that have happened to this great country, this must be the saddest of all. Bernie Goetz - despite the bad press - never spent a day in jail. That was the 1980s when the country still had some common sense. Poor, poor man.


20 posted on 06/09/2013 3:07:14 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Bibman
"If you think he will get a FAIR trial..."

I don't. This is a lynching, pure and simple.

21 posted on 06/09/2013 3:07:26 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: miss marmelstein
Bernie Goetz - despite the bad press - never spent a day in jail. That was the 1980s when the country still had some common sense. Poor, poor man.

Yes he did, he spent more than a year in jail. Not for self defense but they got him on having an unregistered hand gun.

It's been a about 50+ years the last time New York City had any thing resembling common sense.

22 posted on 06/09/2013 3:11:28 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: TurboZamboni

if “(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself <<

is having ones head beaten on the pavement enough to think it might do great bodily harm??


23 posted on 06/09/2013 3:13:26 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: qam1

Oh, gosh, did I make a faux pas or what? And I lived through the whole disaster in live time! Don’t get over 50...the memory completely goes. As the evil Jimmy Breslin would know.


24 posted on 06/09/2013 3:15:10 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: M-cubed
is having ones head beaten on the pavement enough to think it might do great bodily harm??

I'd say so.

25 posted on 06/09/2013 3:31:10 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Ron C.
The jury pool is ready:
26 posted on 06/09/2013 3:32:20 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Ron C.

Spike Lee will do everything in his power to identify and publish the home address of each juror.


27 posted on 06/09/2013 3:33:00 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Ron C.

The actual trial, arguments and evidence will not affect the verdict. The only thing that is going to matter is the jury selection. Sad to say that’s the way it is in America today.


28 posted on 06/09/2013 3:37:39 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: TurboZamboni

You should have put that in quotes.... It comes across like you are saying it....instead of quoting the liberal Washington compost...


29 posted on 06/09/2013 3:39:25 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: Ron C.

30 posted on 06/09/2013 3:40:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: deport

Unanimous - 6 of 6.


31 posted on 06/09/2013 3:44:00 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Mr. K
They are down to 600 and have to get down to 6 was the last news clip. I think it will take a bit of time to get down to that number. Also they said that the Defense are looking for white, gun owners and Republicans. The Prosecutor is looking for black, young, anti-gun persons. It will probably be a mix of some type.
32 posted on 06/09/2013 3:46:02 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Ron C.
If Zimmerman wailed, he must not be jailed.

Does 911 tape prove George Zimmerman acted in self-defense?

33 posted on 06/09/2013 3:52:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: Ron C.
With a guy on top of you, beating your head against the pavement, who would not fear for their life?

The witnesses who said they saw that will soon recant, for fear of their very lives.

34 posted on 06/09/2013 3:57:22 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Ron C.

The article also states it is undisputed Zimmerman left his truck to follow Martin. IIRC, he left the truck to get a precise address to give to the police.


35 posted on 06/09/2013 4:08:24 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Ron C.

Note the AP contributed to this story.


36 posted on 06/09/2013 4:13:18 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Mr. K

37 posted on 06/09/2013 4:39:58 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ken5050

Every second of every segment might very well be bat-guano insane enough to be included in at least one Newsbusters article.


38 posted on 06/09/2013 4:50:11 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Williams
Doesn't matter why he left his truck. Florida law is quite clear on the use of deadly force. The only ones that want to muck up the meaning are the Left and the corrupt prosecution team.

Florida Statute: 776.013 Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—

776.013(3)

A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

39 posted on 06/09/2013 4:55:29 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's Enemies List - Yes, you are a crook.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

In this case, the evidence don’t mean shit, nor , for that matter does applicable law. If they were going be either, Zimmerman would have never been arrested, let alone indicted for second degree murder. Zimmerman is going to get a Soviet type show trial, convicted and sentenenced to a long term in prison. Why? To curry favor in the Black Community for Governor Scott and for Governor Scott to kiss up to obama. And last but not least, to satiate the bloodlust of the professional race baiters. The thing that bothers me the most is that I voted for the sob Scott. A mistake that I will not make again. Things may change, but at the present time, George Zimmerman has two chances: Slim and none.


40 posted on 06/09/2013 5:01:05 PM PDT by sport
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“Like the majority of American states, Florida does not mandate that victims of a violent crime attempt to retreat before they defend themselves. The retreat rule is irrelevant, regardless of whether you believe Trayvon’s advocates or Mr. Zimmerman’s advocates.”

By David Kopel

The Washington Times

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/2/debunking-the-stand-your-ground-myth/#ixzz2VlbB1ccU

Kopel is not a leftist.


41 posted on 06/09/2013 5:01:42 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Ron C.

St. Skittles vs. The White Hispanic

Welcome to OJ Simpson #2 — “If da’ dude be white, ya’ convict, ‘ayt?!”


42 posted on 06/09/2013 5:08:27 PM PDT by twister881
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To: Jim Scott

I’m not optimistic about any jury in America, esp. in liberal FL.


43 posted on 06/09/2013 5:21:56 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: deport

It’s unanimous verdicts for murder in 48 states. LA and OR allow 10/12, I believe. Maybe it’s 11/12 in OR.


44 posted on 06/09/2013 5:25:18 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Ron C.

News outlets don’t hire real editors, anymore. An “editor” is now a commissar of the politikal apparatik.


45 posted on 06/09/2013 5:29:44 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Ron C.

“Getting into a fight..” Is that how you describe being sucker punched?


46 posted on 06/09/2013 5:44:13 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Actually Goetz did some prison time for tHe gun not being reinterred.


47 posted on 06/09/2013 6:26:22 PM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: Ron C.

Well that headline is sure “fair and balanced” /sarc


48 posted on 06/09/2013 6:55:06 PM PDT by lightman (Buzzed and buggered bath house Barry: the Benghazi bungler.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
"The only thing that is going to matter is the jury selection."

Sad but absolutely true. Zimmerman will be convicted, despite all evidence to the contrary.

49 posted on 06/09/2013 9:59:32 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Dalberg-Acton

If there are more than 6 blacks on the jury, Zimmerman will be convicted. My bet, the verdict has already been written.


50 posted on 06/09/2013 10:00:52 PM PDT by Ron C.
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