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Sober driver charged with DUI... even though he had a 0.000 blood-alcohol content [AZ]
Daily Mail [UK] ^ | 9 June 2013 | James Daniel

Posted on 06/10/2013 10:15:50 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows

An Ohio man was charged with DUI after her was pulled over by the police, despite the fact that a breathalyzer test showed he had a blood-alcohol content of 0.000.

64-year-old Jessie Thornton who now lives in Surprise, Arizona said cops told him that they could tell he was drunk simply by looking at him.

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Surprise Police Department paperwork shows Thornton was 'pulled over for crossing the white line in his lane.'

'An officer walked up and he said ‘I can tell you’re driving DUI by looking in your eyes.’ I take my glasses off and he says, ‘You’ve got bloodshot eyes.’

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Thornton said two other officers arrived and they conducted the sobriety test.

With a BAC of 0.000, the situation should have been resolved quickly, but Thornton was evaluated for possible drug use as well.

'Yes, I do the breathalyzer and it comes back zero, zero, zero,' said Mr Thornton.

While in custody, a 'DRE' or drug recognition expert is called in to test him.

'After he did all the tests, he says, 'I would never have arrested you, you show no signs of impairment.'

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'I then get this message that my license is being suspended and I have to take some sort of drinking class or something,' he said.

Mr Thornton now claims that it wasn't DUI but motivated by race.

'It was driving while black,' he proclaimed. 'I just don't want any of this to happen to somebody else,' he said.

His latest incident with Surprise police officers prompted him to hire a lawyer with plans to sue the department for $500,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: alcohol; biggestgangintown; donutwatch; drivingwhilesober; dui; duiarrest; highwayrobbery; lawlessness; neoprohibition; policestate; revenuetickets
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I guess that 0% BAC readings don't fill the municipal coffers, so they had charge him with something.
1 posted on 06/10/2013 10:15:50 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows
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To: Slings and Arrows

It doesn’t have to be alcohol that’s causing his problem.


2 posted on 06/10/2013 10:16:58 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: chopperman

Read the entire column.


3 posted on 06/10/2013 10:17:55 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Slings and Arrows

MAD want to lower the limit to 0.00%


4 posted on 06/10/2013 10:18:12 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Slings and Arrows

“Surprise!”


5 posted on 06/10/2013 10:19:50 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: from occupied ga
MAD want to lower the limit to 0.00%

even less than that. They want it to be -.01

6 posted on 06/10/2013 10:20:34 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Slings and Arrows

I just got over pink eye. I guess the Surprise PD could have arrested me too. Not only should the city be sued but the officers and their supervisors should be held PERSONALLY responsible.


7 posted on 06/10/2013 10:21:50 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: Slings and Arrows
He was clearly in the wrong.

When confronted by a highway stormtrooper traffic cop, always admit you did whatever he said you did even if you didn't. hose are the new rules. Government always right, citizen subject always wrong.

8 posted on 06/10/2013 10:22:57 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: Slings and Arrows

Surprise, Surprise, Surprise.

He should have moved to Happy Valley instead.


9 posted on 06/10/2013 10:23:34 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: clamper1797
Not only should the city be sued but the officers and their supervisors should be held PERSONALLY responsible.

It's good enough for doctors, lawyers, nurses, pharmacists, etc., but evidently not good enough for cops.

10 posted on 06/10/2013 10:23:41 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Slings and Arrows
One can have a BAC of 0.0000000 and still be “impaired” and,thus,legally unfit to drive.For example,I have diabetes.My blood sugars seem to swing pretty substantially and,as a result,I can get very sleepy...even in the middle of the day and even when I'm under the influence of *nothing* that effects one’s brain.I don't know if this is the case here but physicians...and probably some diabetes patients...can confirm what I've said about *my* situation.
11 posted on 06/10/2013 10:24:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I don’t care for the “racist” angle, but I’ve been through hip replacements, and you don’t do it if you don’t hurt like Hell. I hope he gets the half-million. And I’d like to see the officer see some punishment, but that won’t happen.


12 posted on 06/10/2013 10:25:46 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Slings and Arrows
...I have to take some sort of drinking class...

I'd get straight A's. I guarantee it.

13 posted on 06/10/2013 10:27:00 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: from occupied ga

Don’t drive. You can save lives!


14 posted on 06/10/2013 10:28:04 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Q: The worst president in US history?)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Oh Lord, black dude. He comes al and jesse.


15 posted on 06/10/2013 10:28:50 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: V_TWIN
Oh Lord, black dude. He comes al and jesse.

I doubt it - not enough $$$ for the extortionists.

16 posted on 06/10/2013 10:31:35 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Slings and Arrows

It wasn’t motivated by race. The DUI laws have become a neoprohibitionist movement and a moneymaker for politiicans, MADD, the courts, the county, lawyers, and the insurance racket.

Blowing below 0.08 does not free you of being charged. Blowing above it only makes it easier for them to convict you.

Now engage in some carnival games of balance and memory and we’ll see how much we can shake out of you.


17 posted on 06/10/2013 10:31:39 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Slings and Arrows; a fool in paradise

Finally, equal justice for those of us who do drank and drive!


18 posted on 06/10/2013 10:32:29 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

The other thing that’s at work is the tendency for cops to double down once they’ve f’ed up. They do something wrong, you demonstrate that they’re wrong and they’re still going to charge you to keep you quiet.


19 posted on 06/10/2013 10:34:01 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

I don’t doubt that for a moment.


20 posted on 06/10/2013 10:34:31 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’ve contended for years that people who just finished a hard/heavy weight training or cardio workout ride a post-workout “high” that can impair driving. I’ve personally experienced this more often than I can count.


21 posted on 06/10/2013 10:35:13 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: chopperman

Red eyes from swimming in an LA Fitness pool (probably very chlorinated as are most public pools), been stopped 10x for basically nothing, etc.

Just thugcops in action...


22 posted on 06/10/2013 10:36:19 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Janice Kay “Jan” Brewer(R)Governor of Arizona.

That might be enough incentive.


23 posted on 06/10/2013 10:36:25 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: V_TWIN

Ah, gotcha. Which doesn’t change the fact this guy seems to have a legit beef.


24 posted on 06/10/2013 10:37:59 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: green iguana

Or Carefree.


25 posted on 06/10/2013 10:38:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
"I read somewhere that half of everyone who dies in an accident was drunk or drinking. That means that the other half was sober. I say we abolish sobriety"

George Carlin

Looks like these officers are taking George's advice.

26 posted on 06/10/2013 10:38:50 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: Slings and Arrows

That’s why they call this place Surprise!

If there’s no better evidence of DUI than erratic driving, he’ll probably skate in the court, but it does smell like generic harassment. The race card, it has long been maxed out however.


27 posted on 06/10/2013 10:39:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: V_TWIN

I don’t care what color he is. “We” have created an authoritarian nightmare no matter where a citizen lives or what he drives. Americans want to live in an impossible zero risk environment. Americans demand that any minuscule risk that can be identified be transfered to others. In otherwords Americans DEMAND that personal authority be transfered to strangers in order to save their sorry worthless Gubment cheese addled butts. I hope the dynamic duos of Sharpton and Jackson reign unholy, ridiculous hell on Suprise.


28 posted on 06/10/2013 10:40:10 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Fido969

MAD wants to arrest you if you ever thought about taking a drink.


29 posted on 06/10/2013 10:42:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

“this guy seems to have a legit beef.”

Agreed, the race angle would just be gas on fire.


30 posted on 06/10/2013 10:42:59 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: DariusBane

“Hey you look intoxicated” well on what. Hot alcohol, obviously. I suppose they demanded either blood test for other possible intoxicants or forfeiture of license. But if the other possible intoxicants come up clean then the worst a sane prosecution should accuse would be erratic driving (not staying in lane whatever), a petty traffic offense. It’s really unconscionable to throw books at people when there’s no support for most of those books.


31 posted on 06/10/2013 10:43:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: DariusBane

NOT alcohol! Not “Hot” alcohol lol.


32 posted on 06/10/2013 10:44:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: rarestia
I’ve contended for years that people who just finished a hard/heavy weight training or cardio workout ride a post-workout “high” that can impair driving. I’ve personally experienced this more often than I can count.

Odd... I've played tennis for three hours and noted, while in the car afterward, my respiration was about six and my heart rate about 40. Never felt sleepy or tired but fully relaxed and rested.

I know it sounds weird but it's true.

33 posted on 06/10/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron. No, they are both.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

There is a difference between a righteous anger and being MAD(d).


34 posted on 06/10/2013 10:45:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
'An officer walked up and he said ‘I can tell you’re driving DUI by looking in your eyes.’ I take my glasses off and he says, ‘You’ve got bloodshot eyes.’

During allergy season I have both bloodshot eyes and a red nose.

I would be hauled in for DUI and assaulting the officer when I sneezed on him.

35 posted on 06/10/2013 10:46:01 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Join AAAA : Americans Against Acronym Abuse)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

And damaging police property by beating his nightstick with your skull.


36 posted on 06/10/2013 10:47:27 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL


37 posted on 06/10/2013 10:49:43 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I’ve been through that in a hick town in GA just because they didn’t like who I was in the car with. GA law at the time allowed accused to request a blood test. I demanded either a breath or blood test and the fat, stupid, inbred, cretin processing me laughed and said, “Boy, you ain’t getting shit. We can look at you and tell you’re drunk.” Of course I have no race card to play so I eventually just paid the fine. We were with a casual acquaintance we thought was on leave from the Navy. Turned out he was AWOL and wanted as a deserter. Cops felt they had to charge every one in the car with something. My brother and our friend had been drinking but I hadn’t.


38 posted on 06/10/2013 10:53:23 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: rarestia; SpinnerWebb
I’ve contended for years that people who just finished a hard/heavy weight training or cardio workout ride a post-workout “high” that can impair driving. I’ve personally experienced this more often than I can count.

A problem I will never have ... I tried working out once, it made my beer slosh out if its can.

In the immortal words of Willie Dixon:

I'm built for comfort, baby
I ain't built for speed.

39 posted on 06/10/2013 10:54:09 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Slings and Arrows; V_TWIN
Which doesn’t change the fact this guy seems to have a legit beef.

Agreed. Sounds like the local police are out of control. Now everyone is going to have to fear DNA mouth swabs when stopped too. I hope he wins.
40 posted on 06/10/2013 10:56:33 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

So, you should be charged with DUI, have your license pulled, go to court and pay a fine then? And have your insurance rates, assuming you can get insurance, doubled?


41 posted on 06/10/2013 10:59:37 AM PDT by saleman
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To: Slings and Arrows

My sore tailbone has caused me to swerve over a number of lines, while struggling against the constraint of seat belts to move my butt to a comfortable position. This has probably happened when allergies turn my eyes blood red.


42 posted on 06/10/2013 11:02:24 AM PDT by pallis
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So, you should be charged with DUI, have your license pulled, go to court and pay a fine then? And have your insurance rates, assuming you can get insurance, doubled?

I assume that most...if not all...states have a separate "driving while impaired" law or a similar clause attached to their DUI laws.I've already mentioned my situation...if I was ever stopped for weaving,for example,blew a 0.000,had no evidence of drugs on my person or in my car I assume that I could still be charged.But without a breathalyzer...or blood test...or video I think they'd be hard pressed to convict me.

43 posted on 06/10/2013 11:04:26 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: clamper1797

I have eye allergies that I use prescription eye drops for every single day. Sometimes it only works a little and my eyes are a mess, red, irritated, bloodshot, and the lids are red and swollen.
I’d go to jail forever.


44 posted on 06/10/2013 11:08:45 AM PDT by sheana
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To: chopperman
It doesn’t have to be alcohol that’s causing his problem.

That is certainly true. However, the law against drinking and driving caused this arrest, not because of what else could have caused the problem.

45 posted on 06/10/2013 11:10:33 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

DUI, at least in Alabama means Driving under the influence.

It used to be DWI, driving while intoxicated. So, I would assume you would need to be under the influence of something.

Or not.

BTW. I wonder how many housewives, just for instance, get away with driving under the influence of say, narcotics? Or how many pot smokers get away with driving under the influence? Far as I know narcotics and pot are rarely, if ever, tested for.


46 posted on 06/10/2013 11:14:49 AM PDT by saleman
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To: piytar
The favorite excuses of copsuckers on forumsI'm sure we can add a few to this.
47 posted on 06/10/2013 11:15:17 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: V_TWIN

It’s possible the race angle is brown vs black. I’d like to know if the officers involved are hispanic.

Apparently he’s been stopped 10 times and ticketed 4 times since moving to the area. That’s a lot of stops.


48 posted on 06/10/2013 11:19:10 AM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Thank God he did not have a dog in his car.


49 posted on 06/10/2013 11:23:06 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

What time of the month was it? Maybe the cop needed to fill a quota?


50 posted on 06/10/2013 11:29:24 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it gettingthe so hot?)
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