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Why were roadblocks in St. Clair, Bibb counties asking for blood & DNA samples this weekend? (AL)
The Birmingham News/AL.com ^ | 6/10/13 | William Thornton

Posted on 06/10/2013 3:32:45 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl

PELL CITY, Alabama -- St. Clair and Bibb county authorities are confirming there were roadblocks at several locations in their counties Friday and Saturday asking for blood and DNA samples. However, the samples were voluntary and motorists were paid for them as part of a study, they said.

According to Lt. Freddie Turrentine of the St. Clair County Sheriff's Department, it isn't the first time such roadblocks have occurred in the area.

"They were here in 2007," said Turrentine, the supervisor in charge of the roadblocks, which took place in several locations in St. Clair County Friday night, early Saturday morning and Saturday night and early Sunday morning. "It's just with social media and Facebook now, word of it has just exploded."

Turrentine said the roadblocks were part of a study conducted by the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation, working with the National Highway Safety Administration. St. Clair County was asked to participate by the Alabama Department of Economic and Community Affairs because it had worked with the group six years ago.

Sheriff Keith Hannah in Bibb County said they too had previously participated in the study.

Here's how the road blocks worked, Turrentine said:

Off-duty St. Clair County deputies stopped cars at random at road block areas. The road blocks were marked with signs stating it was a paid survey. Cars stopped were asked for voluntary cooperation. Drivers were offered $10 for a mouth swab, and $50 for a blood test. If they refused, they were free to drive away.

[ POLL: Would you voluntarily submit DNA, blood sample for government study at roadblock? ]

Road blocks took place Friday at the New London Fire Department, Alabama 34 in Pell City near the old Dan's Car Wash, U.S. 231 at Alabama 144, at White's Chapel Parkway and Moody Crossroads in Moody. In Bibb County, the road blocks took place in five areas in the county on Friday night through early Sunday morning.

If drivers participated, they were directed to an area where someone from the group carrying out the study took the samples, he said.

"It was completely voluntary," Turrentine said, saying reports that people were detained if they did not cooperate were untrue. "If they didn't want to take part, they could drive off."

The samples were anonymous, he said.

Poll: Would you voluntarily submit DNA, blood sample for government study at roadblock?

"They were taking the samples in other parts of the country," he said. "They want to find out of all the people surveyed, how many people were driving with alcohol in their system, or prescription drugs, things like that."

This will be the only time this year the survey takes place in St. Clair County, he said.

Turrentine, who was at one of the roadblocks, said the group carrying out the study would ask for a certain number of volunteers. Deputies would stop drivers until that number of drivers needed agreed to the survey. Then they let cars pass while the samples were taken.

"We would have a lot who didn't want to take part, especially at night," he said. "But then we'd have a few that when we'd tell they could make $60 bucks, they said, 'What do I need to do?'"

If you were stopped in one of the roadblocks, or took part, and would like to talk, email eastalabama@al.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: bloodsamples; communism; dictatorship; dna; donutwatch; gestapo; govtabuse; obamaisstalin; papersplease; policestate; rapeofliberty; roadblock; stalinism; tyranny; voluntarydna
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I was sort of shocked to see this!
1 posted on 06/10/2013 3:32:45 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Bodleian_Girl

WTF ???

WOW....


2 posted on 06/10/2013 3:35:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Was a guy hiding in a boat too?


3 posted on 06/10/2013 3:35:24 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Were they asking to see “official papers” at the roadblock? This country is fast becoming a police state. We, the American people, are allowing it to happen.


4 posted on 06/10/2013 3:35:37 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Evil comes in all shapes, sizes and denominations.


5 posted on 06/10/2013 3:36:38 PM PDT by knarf (<p>Gimmee my share.)
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To: Vendome

I know, crazy!

Saw this in the comments at al.com: “The Tides foundation (Soros) funds PIRE (Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation)”


6 posted on 06/10/2013 3:37:25 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Mr. Wright

It’s sort of shocking to me also how the Birmingham News is kid gloving it.

Almost all their upper tier editors are female now, so there is hardly any hard news reporting going on there any more.


7 posted on 06/10/2013 3:39:07 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Bodleian_Girl
I was sort of shocked to see this!

Why, it is voluntary. I've encountered similar roadblocks for tourism.

8 posted on 06/10/2013 3:39:54 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

somebody wants a daddy


9 posted on 06/10/2013 3:40:24 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Alaska Wolf

There is something fundamentally wrong with “Roadblocks” in America.

I will not comply.


10 posted on 06/10/2013 3:44:04 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Bodleian_Girl
Were they anonymous samples?
11 posted on 06/10/2013 3:46:19 PM PDT by Average Al ( Our founder fathers never knew we could fail due to a Techtatorship.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

People who declined to give their DNA were detained and had their cars searched.

They used off duty LE to throw up a road block. Nothing voluntary about having to stop at a roadblock.


12 posted on 06/10/2013 3:46:25 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Zeneta
I will not comply.

It was voluntary.

13 posted on 06/10/2013 3:47:09 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

How is a roadblock by off duty police officers voluntary?


14 posted on 06/10/2013 3:49:39 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Alaska Wolf

I will not comply with the roadblock.


15 posted on 06/10/2013 3:49:42 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Bodleian_Girl
People who declined to give their DNA were detained and had their cars searched.

According to the article; Off-duty St. Clair County deputies stopped cars at random at road block areas. The road blocks were marked with signs stating it was a paid survey. Cars stopped were asked for voluntary cooperation. Drivers were offered $10 for a mouth swab, and $50 for a blood test. If they refused, they were free to drive away.

16 posted on 06/10/2013 3:49:44 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Vendome; saleman

DNA collected at roadblocks

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3029457/posts


17 posted on 06/10/2013 3:51:39 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Bodleian_Girl
People who declined to give their DNA were detained and had their cars searched.

Hi, Alas Babylon! here, Alabamian. They were NOT detained, nor were their automobiles searched in any way. They were allowed to go on their way.

18 posted on 06/10/2013 3:51:56 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alaska Wolf

According to people who are commenting, if you declined, you were detained and your car was searched.

It was a roadblock, not an invitation to a paid survey.


19 posted on 06/10/2013 3:52:03 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Bodleian_Girl
How is a roadblock by off duty police officers voluntary?

When a yellow or orange vested highway worker blocks traffic, is it voluntary? Does an off duty policeman have more authority than a highway flagman?

20 posted on 06/10/2013 3:53:19 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Bodleian_Girl
According to people who are commenting

Apparently like you, they failed to read the article.

21 posted on 06/10/2013 3:54:38 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Zeneta

Law “enforcement” should not be stopping people without probable cause.

And they were trying to determine if people were driving with prescription drugs in their system? Legal, prescribed prescription drugs, too? So, if you’re taking blood pressure medicine, or cholesterol medicine, what business is it of the police or the Soros group Pacific Institure for Research and Evaluation?

Lt. Freddie Turrentine, Sheriff Keith Hannah....shame on you both for participating in this BS.


22 posted on 06/10/2013 3:54:59 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

There is nothing voluntary about being stopped by armed police and “asked” to do something. When a cop says “would you please step out of the car?”, it is understood as an order backed by lethal force.

If they wanted to do a survey, they could have done it at a rest stop.


23 posted on 06/10/2013 3:55:39 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Hold the pig steady)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Police departments all over the country all ready have the technology to read your license plate as you drive by and around certain cities.

How is this any different than tracking who you called, when you called and for how long ?


24 posted on 06/10/2013 3:56:28 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

They both fund McCain too, or did. And they funded his campaign staff between gigs as well to the tune of six figures per.


25 posted on 06/10/2013 3:57:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama lied, four men died, and he went to hide...)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Hi, Alas Babylon! here, Alabamian. They were NOT detained, nor were their automobiles searched in any way. They were allowed to go on their way.

The article states that plainly at least twice.

26 posted on 06/10/2013 3:58:19 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Giving up freedom for $60! Lead me to the cattle cars!

This deputy says “they” wanted to know. Who the hell is “they”? This proves we can’t count on local cops to be on the side of patriotism. Of course, it doesn’t matter since way more than half the citizens will voluntarily give up their freedoms.

As for the road blocks, wanting to know who’s on prescription drugs.....obamacare?


27 posted on 06/10/2013 3:59:20 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Alaska Wolf

28 posted on 06/10/2013 3:59:43 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Zeneta
Police departments all over the country all ready have the technology to read your license plate as you drive by and around certain cities.

So? What does that have to do with this thread?

29 posted on 06/10/2013 4:00:36 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

I read the article. I also read all of the comments. I also searched for other people talking about it and what actually happened.


30 posted on 06/10/2013 4:01:06 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Bodleian_Girl

I would not stop.


31 posted on 06/10/2013 4:01:14 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

“Voluntary” under color of authority is not voluntary.
“Cars were stopped.” Nothing voluntary about that.
Was driving off interpreted as probable cause of an unknown offense, sufficient to be stopped again and have one’s car searched? I’m guessing yes on the basis of similar roadblocks in the past elsewhere. It so, illegal search!
HF


32 posted on 06/10/2013 4:01:20 PM PDT by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: Whenifhow

I would never voluntarily give any information to a gubmint rep .

Not for all the tea in China.

The article points out the information collected is completely anonymous.

Asinine.

Your DNA is an identifier and no way you are anonymous once given.


33 posted on 06/10/2013 4:01:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Where is it stated that all drivers and passengers are required to provide them?


34 posted on 06/10/2013 4:02:00 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

It certainly means that the DNA was not anonymous since the involved police harvest all of the tag numbers.


35 posted on 06/10/2013 4:02:52 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Alaska Wolf

Invasion of privacy.

4 Amendment.

No probable cause for the stop.

Cops trying to create Probable cause.

Restricting my freedom to travel.

Are they going to ask me for my papers ?


36 posted on 06/10/2013 4:04:27 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: holden
“Cars were stopped.” Nothing voluntary about that.

Are you claiming that drivers couldn't turn around and avoid the roadblock?

I’m guessing

That and not reading the articles is what gets conspiracy theorists into trouble so often.

37 posted on 06/10/2013 4:05:45 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

I can’t find the comments.

I click on it but, it takes me somewhere else


38 posted on 06/10/2013 4:06:26 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Zeneta
Restricting my freedom to travel.

Do you get angry when the girl scouts stop you at the mall and ask if you would like to buy some cookies? You can always turn and go in the other direction to avoid them, can't you?

39 posted on 06/10/2013 4:08:54 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
" Are you claiming that drivers couldn't turn around and avoid the roadblock? "

Do me this favor. Next time YOU see a roadblock you do just that. Let us know what happens next! :)

40 posted on 06/10/2013 4:10:02 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Bodleian_Girl
It certainly means that the DNA was not anonymous since the involved police harvest all of the tag numbers.

You are assuming all of those who volunteered were the registered owner of the vehicle.

41 posted on 06/10/2013 4:11:23 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Black Agnes
Do me this favor. Next time YOU see a roadblock you do just that. Let us know what happens next! :)

I've done it a number of times when I was in a hurry and NOTHING happened.

You must be terrified of those college kids doing tourism surveys! LOL!

42 posted on 06/10/2013 4:13:55 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Police are throwing up a roadblock, not giving people an invitation to do a “survey.”

Off duty policemen. Ordering you to stop. Traffic halted. Teens were also swabbed without parental permission.


43 posted on 06/10/2013 4:16:21 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Vendome

https://m.facebook.com/abc3340/posts/10151650418111178


44 posted on 06/10/2013 4:17:30 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Alaska Wolf

“The survey used deputies to stop traffic....” http://blog.al.com/east-alabama/2013/06/feds_state_officials_comment_o.html


45 posted on 06/10/2013 4:19:54 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Alaska Wolf

Yeah. You weren’t SEEN doing the UE.

Friend of mine’s HS age kid saw a roadblock one saturday night and did a UE. Didn’t want to be late for curfew. 2 of the 3 LEOs there hopped in their cars, chased him down sirens wailing, drug him physically out of the car at gunpoint and handcuffed him and shoved him in a patrol car. He won a trip to the local HOSPITAL for a blood test drug screen. He was clean. They still charged him with ...wait for it...’evading a roadblock’.

Yes, he was late for his curfew.


46 posted on 06/10/2013 4:20:07 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Bodleian_Girl
Teens were also swabbed without parental permission.

So they volunteered?

Police are throwing up a roadblock,

Were the drivers forced to go through it? No!

47 posted on 06/10/2013 4:21:04 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Go research the trial of Pastor Anderson and unconstitutional roadblocks.


48 posted on 06/10/2013 4:22:43 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Black Agnes
Yeah. You weren’t SEEN doing the UE.

Then you can tell me where I made them all?

Friend of mine’s HS age kid saw a roadblock one saturday night and did a UE.

You were there also?

49 posted on 06/10/2013 4:24:07 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Why are you working so hard to defend roadblocks?


50 posted on 06/10/2013 4:24:58 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor < still > has no pedigree.)
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