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Most Americans back NSA tracking phone records, prioritize probes over privacy
Washington Post ^ | 06/10/2013 | Jon Cohen

Posted on 06/10/2013 3:35:29 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

A large majority of Americans say the federal government should focus on investigating possible terrorist threats even if personal privacy is compromised, and most support the blanket tracking of telephone records in an effort to uncover terrorist activity, according to a new Washington Post-Pew Research Center poll.

Fully 45 percent of all Americans say the government should be able to go further than it is, saying that it should be able to monitor everyone’s online activity if doing so would prevent terrorist attacks. A slender majority, 52 percent, say no such broad-based monitoring should occur.

The new survey comes amid recent revelations of the National Security Agency’s extensive collection of telecommunications data to facilitate terrorism investigations.

Overall, 56 percent of Americans consider the NSA accessing telephone call records of millions of Americans through secret court orders “acceptable,” while 41 percent call the practice “unacceptable.”...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bs; compost; nsa; obama; poll; wiretap
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Gotta love how the poll was phrased. I wonder where their sample came from?
1 posted on 06/10/2013 3:35:29 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Yeah I wonder how much the NSA paid the Post to print this?


2 posted on 06/10/2013 3:38:26 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

If anyone does support this stuff, wait until the figure out that their alcohol purchases and bar tabs gets them a visit from a Muslim/sharia agent.

They will be signing a different tune then.


3 posted on 06/10/2013 3:38:40 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Well that settles it. Majority opinion makes right, unless it involves gay marriage, abortion, immigration, taxes, eminent domain, drug policy, education policy, health care, foreign policy, trade policy, deficit spending, etc.


4 posted on 06/10/2013 3:39:42 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

A majority of people in the 13 colonies wanted to remain subjects of the Crown, too.

I could slant such a poll by merely over-weighting female responses. Most women will trade liberty for security.


5 posted on 06/10/2013 3:39:57 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Ah, okaaaay:

The WaPoo and the New Yorker Magazine scream, “Americans don’t care..!” and we BELIEVE them...?

OF COURSE they’d say that.

I can’t believe a SINGLE freep would fall for this pap.


6 posted on 06/10/2013 3:39:58 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Rasmussen says 68% oppose. Now who would you believe?


7 posted on 06/10/2013 3:41:05 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Don't forget love)
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To: gaijin

Who said we do?

Thou art quick to assume, me thinks?


8 posted on 06/10/2013 3:41:43 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

This is a LOAD OF OBAMA


9 posted on 06/10/2013 3:41:44 PM PDT by Fred (http://thebubblefilm.com/)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

This is a false poll. I saw other polls totally opposite.

Be intuitive people! The Libs are FOR anything O does.


10 posted on 06/10/2013 3:41:44 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

From Disney World, where else?


11 posted on 06/10/2013 3:42:24 PM PDT by MtnMan101
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Fully 45 percent of all Americans ..... A slender majority, 52 percent, say no such broad-based monitoring should occur.

LOL!.......

12 posted on 06/10/2013 3:42:44 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Heaven forbid their beloved Hussein do anything wrong and be held accountable. I’m sick and tired and about ready to drop out of the rat race.


13 posted on 06/10/2013 3:42:59 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Fully 45 percent of all Americans say the government should be able to go further than it is, saying that it should be able to monitor everyone’s online activity if doing so would prevent terrorist attacks.

About the same number that are Obamabots.

14 posted on 06/10/2013 3:43:23 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
ROTFL. The WAPO iS our BFF..NOT. We want to be suppressed and monitored and infringed...haha.

They have truly lost their minds if they believe that or think anyone will believe that...ever.

15 posted on 06/10/2013 3:44:09 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

It appears that they polled the frightened children in Washington DC.


16 posted on 06/10/2013 3:45:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Bullsh*t!


17 posted on 06/10/2013 3:45:45 PM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
45 percent of all Americans say the government should be able to go further than it is

And these people would be the communist parasites who suck off the government.

18 posted on 06/10/2013 3:46:08 PM PDT by dragonblustar (NSA, can you here me now?)
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To: gaijin

Believe it. Look at all the conservatives who say Snowden should be arrested and prosecuted.

I’d bet that if the government announced that everyone should report to the nearest football field, park, parking lot, etc, more than half would voluntarily show up and they wouldn’t even ask why. Just line up and get on the cattle cars. You’ll love where we’re taking you.

And don’t be surprised to “learn” of all the nuke attacks that have been prevented. And, like Snowden said, the government will come up with some big threat and tyranny will follow.

God, thank You that I’m nearing the end of my natural life. I feel for true conservatives children and grandchildren. Not the same feelings for those who helped creat the tyrant.


19 posted on 06/10/2013 3:46:29 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Fully 45 percent of all Americans say the government should be able to go further than it is, saying that it should be able to monitor everyone’s online activity if doing so would prevent terrorist attacks.

Oddly enough, fully 45% of Americans work for the gov't.
20 posted on 06/10/2013 3:47:23 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Fai Mao
"Yeah I wonder how much the NSA paid the Post to print this?"

I'll go a step further.. The NSA rigged the results.

21 posted on 06/10/2013 3:47:51 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: All

“According to a new Pew poll, the first to gauge the public’s response to the controversial programs, a comfortable majority of the American sheeple — 56 percent to 41 percent — supports the gathering of millions of phone records in the quest to fight terrorism.”

If 56% is a “comfortable majority”, then what’s 59% on the other side?:

“Just 26% of Likely U.S. Voters favor the government’s secret collecting of these phone records for national security purposes regardless of whether there is any suspicion of wrongdoing. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 59% are opposed to the practice.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3029567/posts


22 posted on 06/10/2013 3:50:01 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
I wonder where their sample came from?

A representative sampling of Americans working in Langley, VA.

23 posted on 06/10/2013 3:53:36 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

BALONEY!


24 posted on 06/10/2013 3:53:53 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

such bs


25 posted on 06/10/2013 3:54:28 PM PDT by rusty millet
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Okay, so if Wa Po lays this out with a straight face, I'm supposed to believe it? And them?
26 posted on 06/10/2013 3:54:55 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Well that’s easy enough, they polled Americans, not U. S. Citizens. Evidently they found enough foreign nationals from America that they could swing this sucker wildly.


27 posted on 06/10/2013 3:55:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama lied, four men died, and he went to hide...)
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To: NVDave
Most women will trade liberty for security.

Yeah. His.

28 posted on 06/10/2013 3:55:50 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: jiggyboy
Good one, thanx.

But they're liberals, you see, so they're entitled to have it both ways. Didn't you remember?

29 posted on 06/10/2013 3:57:28 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
...it should be able to monitor everyone’s online activity if doing so would prevent terrorist attacks

Great. So why stop just at terrorosm? They could let the gov't monitor everything that could stop any crime, or any loss of even a single life.

Hey PEW, ask them if they'd support monitoring all gun sales (because someone could get shot). All alcohol sales (drunk driver prevention). All tobacco and trans fat sales (someone could get sick 20 years down the road).

Better yet, just let the Feds mandate that no new automobile may be capable of going over 40 mph. Just think of the 40,000 lives (and critters too) that would be saved annually.

30 posted on 06/10/2013 3:59:24 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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To: Fai Mao

This is total crapolla from a Pew Poll of 1004 respondents.

And anyway, this is not about terrorism. The NSA isn’t eavesdropping on you and me because they’re thinking we’re terrorists. It’s for other nefarious purposes. Or, they can redefine the meaning of “terrorist” and jail us all when they feel like it.

“Oh, I don’t care if the government needs to data snoop in their effort to root out terrorists...I’m not a terrorist, so they won’t be listening in on my private phone calls..”

If it was about terrorists, they’d close the damn border. If it was about terrorists, they’d have picked up the Tsarnaev brothers two years ago. No, it’s about building a dossier of data on every American to use against us at a future date.


31 posted on 06/10/2013 3:59:54 PM PDT by steerpike100
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To: Fred
This is a LOAD OF OBAMA

It's a pile of Pelosi

32 posted on 06/10/2013 4:01:07 PM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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Have any facts been disclosed regarding the nature of the surveillance, or are most people relying solely on the word of one young, former contractor?

Is it worse to be suspicious, do nothing, and subsequently conditioned than to be ignorant? Why are people seemingly more acceptable of surveillance today than years ago? Political hypocrisy?

I have been effectively defending the NSA, but the adults still need to step up and ensure privacy is properly protected at every conceivable level. There must be political firewalls in place that are facilitated by the private sector. Data should be effectively anonymous until warranted by the courts. Not sure how to associate anonymous data from disparate sources though. Maybe through a trusted 3rd party (uh... excluding Snowden).


33 posted on 06/10/2013 4:03:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The organization that created the healthcare death panels should know who you’re talking to and for how long if they say it will keep us safer.


34 posted on 06/10/2013 4:04:14 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

A WaPo poll is worth the toilet paper it is printed on.


35 posted on 06/10/2013 4:08:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
What was true then, is truer today:

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace.

"We seek not your counsel, nor your arms.

Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

-- Samuel Adams

36 posted on 06/10/2013 4:10:10 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Americans deserve chains.


37 posted on 06/10/2013 4:11:10 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (TSARNAEVs escaped PRISM. Can you?)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

This is not what the polling says.

Is there nobody left that isn’t a criminal or a criminal conspirator?


38 posted on 06/10/2013 4:12:37 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: Gene Eric

NSA mistakenly pulled records. Stories are coming out that this happened dozens of times. The problem with the program is no one is told when it happens. There is no oversight. It potential for abuse scares the hell out of me!

This NSA guy claims anyone can pulled records on a whim, I tend to believe him.

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/07/18831985-officials-nsa-mistakenly-intercepted-emails-phone-calls-of-innocent-americans


39 posted on 06/10/2013 4:14:38 PM PDT by BushCountry (We Wanted a President That Listens to All Americans - Now We Have One!)
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To: Alaska Wolf

“Fully 45 percent of all Americans say the government should be able to go further than it is, saying that it should be able to monitor everyone’s online activity if doing so would prevent terrorist attacks.”

“About the same number that are Obamabots.”

Too easy. What if by so doing, we could eliminate kiddie porn or what if we can save battered wives? It is a route to eliminate gun crime by identifying possible perpetrators (gun owners).

Man who could possible choose freedom??


40 posted on 06/10/2013 4:15:04 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

This American believes it is unacceptable for my government to go trawling for criminals or even storing anything about me when I am under no suspicion for a crime.


41 posted on 06/10/2013 4:16:49 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

LIES LIES EVERY TIME SOMETHING HAPPENS THE FREAKING LIARS IN THE WHITE HOUSE SAY THE POPULACE SUPPORTS IT.

LIES


42 posted on 06/10/2013 4:17:55 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: JimSEA
Too easy. It is a route to eliminate gun crime by identifying possible perpetrators (gun owners)

Gun crime? No, Obamabots want to eliminate guns, period.

43 posted on 06/10/2013 4:18:15 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

“Most Americans” don’t understand that virtually every call, text, email, or online transaction is being recorded by the government. They have been deceived. It’s going to take time.


44 posted on 06/10/2013 4:22:28 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The USG is the #1 terrorist. Who is monitoring them?


45 posted on 06/10/2013 4:25:10 PM PDT by kneehurts
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

BS!


46 posted on 06/10/2013 4:27:11 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: steerpike100

Quite so. I have already imagined that food purchases and restaurant visits paid via credit card will be a factor when it comes to deciding who gets that heart operation or cancer treatment and who doesn’t twenty years from now if Obamacare is in effect.


47 posted on 06/10/2013 4:27:30 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BushCountry

>> There is no oversight. It potential for abuse scares the hell out of me!

Indeed. And the Marxist scumbags will abuse, and possibly have abused, such potential.

I’m dubious about the notion that the NSA is an irresponsible operation that is inattentive to matters of privacy. No doubt the “browsers” exist, but there are ways to guard against that.

The silver lining here is awareness, and the understanding there should be an appropriate level of oversight. One might think Congress should be handling this, but DC is completely #ed up. A private sector consortium should exist for this purpose that includes equal representation of small to large concerns. Plenty of individuals have security clearance and the appreciation of liberty. It could be done.


48 posted on 06/10/2013 4:28:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Fai Mao

I didn’t know that we had 310 million terrorist threats living in this country.

Its all in the question.

They talk about investigating a terrorist threat but this isn’t about that.

Its about spying on millions of people who have nothing to do with terrorism.

That’s unconstitutional and unaccepatable.


49 posted on 06/10/2013 4:29:43 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

And here I was wondering all day how they were going to try and spin this. I figured they’d either have Snowden’s GF (or her daughter) claim rape by evening news time.

With that said, I wouldn’t believe this propoganda piece if they only polled washington post employees. And since thr fedgov loveds to snoop, I’ll give them something to wet the bed over:

(Ahem - biff biff... is this thing on? Good): attention spooks: you can buy up all the ammo. Go ahead and hunt down Snowden and make an example out of him. You can trash out borders, weaken the currency, even give a good race riot for our summer entertainment...

... and it won’t make a damn bit of difference. You’ve lost the trust of the American people and there’s nothing you can do about it. From the tea party guy, to the occupy wall street gal, and every low information voter in between. They all have smart phones, tables, pc’s etc. Across the political spectrum, no one thinks its you (expletive) business to know everything about the people who pay your salaries.

Think the information highway is your little digital playground? Well monitor this: we’re Americans, dammit! We built this network AND we can tear it down and build another one that’ll leave you spooks playing pacman to avoid dying of bordem! The net only stays up because, well... we’re nice people.

Don’t believe me, just ask a fellow geek.

Go ahead. Throw us in jail. Bankrupt us. Kill us. We don’t care. I for one WILL NOT surrender to evil foreign OR DOSMESTIC!!

Did you get all that over in Fort Meade? Good. Just remember that as of now, we all surf the same web.

Jimjohn - OUT (drops the mic).


50 posted on 06/10/2013 4:30:18 PM PDT by jimjohn
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