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Cardinal Dolan praises immigration bill as step forward
CNA - Catholic News Agency ^ | Jun 10, 2013 / 02:30 pm | CNA/EWTN News

Posted on 06/10/2013 6:48:52 PM PDT by haffast

New York City, N.Y., Jun 10, 2013 / 02:30 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Stressing that immigration reform is needed to “correct injustices,” Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan said that the proposed bill in the U.S. Senate makes serious progress in efforts to balance humanitarian and security concerns.

“The Senate proposal, while not perfect, goes a long way toward correcting injustices in the system,” the Archbishop of New York wrote in a June 9 column for USA Today. “Despite its shortcomings, the bill significantly improves upon the status quo and will assist millions of families.”

“We look forward to continuing to work with Congress to improve the legislation, and we applaud lawmakers of both parties who are working together to bring 11 million people out of the shadows.”

Speaking for the U.S. bishops, Cardinal Dolan wrote that immigration is “close to Catholic hearts,” the Church having helped to integrate immigrants into the American way of life for generations.

He explained that much-needed immigration reform must highlight America's “legitimate needs of security” as well as “our heritage of welcoming immigrants and the gifts they bring.”

“We bishops call for practical and humane immigration reform grounded in the Catholic experience,” he wrote.

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Catholic bishops: Fix unjust immigration system
Timothy Dolan 6 a.m. EDT June 9, 2013
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/06/09/immigration-catholics-bishops-column/2397239/

Survey finds strong Catholic support for immigration changes
Washington D.C., Apr 27, 2013 / 01:09 pm (CNA)
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/survey-finds-strong-catholic-support-for-immigration-changes/

1 posted on 06/10/2013 6:48:52 PM PDT by haffast
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To: haffast

The bill will destroy the American economy when Obamacare covers the millions of illegals who will get coverage for little to no cost. I doubt Cardinal Dolan has any concern for the Catholic taxpayer.


2 posted on 06/10/2013 6:53:04 PM PDT by dominic flandry
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To: haffast

Gee Thanks Cardinal.

So you want to destroy America too.

Why don’t you try taking care of your flock and staying the hell out of politics.


3 posted on 06/10/2013 6:53:15 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: haffast

One big step toward putting the final nail in this great experiment called the USA.
These past 2 months have me so demoralized I have had to switch off all news these last few days. What can 1 man do? Im praying that a few million people decide to march on washington. Im tired of complaining online...................


4 posted on 06/10/2013 6:53:33 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: haffast
This guy is nuts. The greater part of the illegal aliens came from Mexico, the 8th wealthiest nation on Earth. They are hardly a basket case. And none of them are helpless stateless refugees. I guess Dolan grew up at the wrong time and hasn't paid attention since he was 15 or so. US state craft has pretty much eliminated the stateless problem that used to plague the world.

Dolan probably ought to get out more often ~ see some stuff. Maybe the Pope could give him a favela in Peru or something to minister to ~ I"d like that.

5 posted on 06/10/2013 6:54:54 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: haffast

“Correct injustices”? What the hell is he talking about? It’s the Mexican government that should be “correcting injustices”. Geeez. What a moron. I’ll bet Dolan think Mexico is a GREAT, GREAT country for providing us with so many freeloaders.


6 posted on 06/10/2013 6:55:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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To: haffast

A walking advertisement for separation of church and state.


7 posted on 06/10/2013 6:55:28 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: haffast
“We bishops call for practical and humane immigration reform grounded in the Catholic experience,” he wrote.

I do pray that God's will be done, and where ever that leaves this human trafficker so be it.

8 posted on 06/10/2013 6:55:51 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: haffast

(rewriting the article for clarity)

Stressing that immigration reform is needed to “give Mexicans US citizenship” Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan said that the proposed bill in the U.S. Senate makes serious progress in efforts to balance humanitarian and security concerns by letting 11 million Mexicans become Americans, instead of having to live in their own inhumane and brutal nation.

“The Senate proposal, while not perfect, goes a long way toward correcting the injustice of making foreigners live in their own countries,” the Archbishop of New York wrote in a June 9 column for USA Today. “Despite its shortcomings, the bill significantly improves upon the status quo and will assist millions of families to get the benefits of living in a better country than Mexico.”

“We look forward to continuing to work with Congress to improve the legislation, and we applaud lawmakers of both parties who are working together to take wealth from American citizens so that they can give it to Mexicans who didn’t earn it.”


9 posted on 06/10/2013 6:57:54 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: haffast
Stressing that immigration reform is needed to “correct injustices,

Injustices like 11,000,000 (at least) criminals breaking into our country and laying waste to it?

Yeah, I'd say that needs to be corrected.

10 posted on 06/10/2013 6:58:19 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: haffast

Sorry Cardinal...I understand my responsibilities to help the poor but I’ll only do so when they’re in their own country.I believe it was your Boss,our Lord and Savior,who once said “render unto Caesar”....which,among other things,represents acceptance of the validity of earthly governments.


11 posted on 06/10/2013 7:00:36 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: haffast

I don’t hate the cardinal but I do disagree with his position.

The Irish were hated when they came to this country back in the 1840’s.

There were riots on our streets and Catholic churches and convents were torched.

I can understand the cardinal’s position based on the history of hatred towards his church and immigrants who were members of his church in the past who came to our country legally.

There is no hatred in opposing the breaking of the law by people who have entered this country illegally.


12 posted on 06/10/2013 7:00:40 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: haffast
If Dolan and the Catholic church wish for these things let them PAY for them!

The blindness and ever bleeding heart of the Catholic Church on display. Or maybe it is because the vast majority of South American illegals are Catholic. Let's see, we provide them with welfare and other benefits and maybe they will throw some money in to the plate on Sunday? Or maybe cut the Rectory grass cheap?

13 posted on 06/10/2013 7:01:39 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: haffast

Amazing! Dolan managed to remove his lips from the baby killer 0bama’s butt long enough to spout this drivel.


14 posted on 06/10/2013 7:04:40 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: muawiyah

It just shows his prejudice. Most are “Catholic” at least in label only If these were Protestants or someone else he could give a rat’s behind


15 posted on 06/10/2013 7:05:20 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: haffast

Why wasn’t the Cardinal concerned about the injustice to Sarah Murnaghan? Or the fact that every American is having every phone monitored? Or the fact that BHO hasn’t modified the HHS mandate by one syllable to accommodate religious freedom? What about the IRS scrutiny of Dr Henderschott or the Catholic League? I’ve come to the realization that the Cardinal’s concern for injustice is limited.


16 posted on 06/10/2013 7:06:36 PM PDT by STJPII
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To: A_Former_Democrat

There are statistics indicating that the Catholics lose more than half the latinos who move here ~ legal or otherwise.


17 posted on 06/10/2013 7:06:46 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: haffast

does he think more Catholics will be here because if he does then he;s an idiot because they might call themselves Catholic but they vote Dem much like most of the north east.


18 posted on 06/10/2013 7:08:48 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: haffast

The Catholic hierarchy wants the rest of America to spend it’s money for the charity of The Church. This Catholic totally disagrees with this.


19 posted on 06/10/2013 7:10:27 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: dominic flandry

Sounds like Dolan is one of those modern
“religious leaders” who would have been helping construct the Tower of Babel if he had been alive in Old Testament times.


20 posted on 06/10/2013 7:15:48 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: stevio
The Catholic hierarchy wants the rest of America to spend it’s money for the charity of The Church. This Catholic totally disagrees with this.

The Catholic hierarchy is only loyal to Rome. They claim 'social justice' while they rob US blind. I cannot wait for their reaping of the seeds they have sown. Thou shall not steal is still in effect. And Christ said you break one you break them all. There is nothing holy about this.

21 posted on 06/10/2013 7:16:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: haffast

What a great way to create 11 million more demrats!


22 posted on 06/10/2013 7:41:49 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Venturer

Don’t worry, the good Cardinal has approved abortion too. Ask Pelosi, or Kennedy, or Kerry, they’ll tell you he’s approved.


23 posted on 06/10/2013 7:42:14 PM PDT by abbastanza
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To: dominic flandry

Are you one of them?


24 posted on 06/10/2013 7:44:40 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I think Dolan looks around and realizes that the problem isn’t immigration, but welfare.

And here, I thought it was ok to welcome in Christians who actually practice their religion. Apparently this is not so.


25 posted on 06/10/2013 7:46:22 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: manc

Everything I’ve seen suggests they are prolife, and that they actually have children and then go to church, etc.

One would think they would be prime recruiting field for the republican party if the republican party supported these things.

The US has had much more open immigration in the past, they also didn’t have a welfare system. Dump welfare, keep immigration - get the folks willing to work.

You want to know who changed things to our current quota based policy? Wilson. The same fella who put in income tax. I think he was just as wrong on immigration as he was on everything else.


26 posted on 06/10/2013 7:49:23 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: haffast

Here comes the Catholic Knife in the back.


27 posted on 06/10/2013 7:50:25 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: muawiyah
The greater part of the illegal aliens came from Mexico, the 8th wealthiest nation on Earth.

'cause we're Mexico's sump pump.

28 posted on 06/10/2013 7:54:44 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

I really don’t feel sorry or Mexicans ~ I do feel sorry for Canadians though. Their country has had them lined up near the border ready to invade for some 200 years or so ~ gotta’ get boring as all get out in the Canadian winter!


29 posted on 06/10/2013 7:56:34 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: haffast

A Cardinal agreeing with illegal. I’m not surprised. Those we came here earlier had to have a sponsor who would provide for them and with a job lined up. There weren’t illegal, nor drunks, nor looking for a handout.

Big difference, Cardinal. Confession time for you and you will get your penance in the after life. Contributing to illegal activities - I guess doing that in the Vatican got boring - now you are taking it to the streets. Only homo’s chose to wear dresses over wearing pants.


30 posted on 06/10/2013 7:59:38 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: manc

So do catholics vote for the ‘rats.


31 posted on 06/10/2013 8:00:54 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: haffast

Someone should tell Cardinal Doofus that illegal and injustice are not the same!


32 posted on 06/10/2013 8:04:01 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (But for an ignorant electorate Slow Joe would have become a circus clown or union thug.)
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To: abbastanza
Lesse he did give in to Cuomo and the Feds “under protest”. Lesse now: donations from 5mm illegals vs fighting against 40K abortions....This is why the RC Church is the most profitable multinational corporation. Cardinal Dolan as a Division VP appears to have done well improving the bottom line for the organization ( less 2000 hours from the 500$/hr attorneys to settle the pedophile cases in the various dioceses.)
33 posted on 06/10/2013 8:10:16 PM PDT by slapshot ("Were not gonna take it anymore" Twisted Sister)
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To: slapshot

—— .This is why the RC Church is the most profitable multinational corporation. ——

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Vatican assets are valued at $1 billion, 5% of Harvard’s endowment, or $1 for each Catholic.


34 posted on 06/10/2013 8:15:22 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: haffast

“One cannot really be a Catholic and grownup.”
George Orwell, “Manuscript Notebook”, 1949


35 posted on 06/10/2013 8:17:45 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: JCBreckenridge; manc
Everything I’ve seen suggests they are prolife, and that they actually have children and then go to church, etc. One would think they would be prime recruiting field for the republican party if the republican party supported these things.

The GOP platform is pro-life, and pro-family, but Catholics prefer the democrat platform, and always have, Catholics have always been democrats with the exception of about five presidential elections.

36 posted on 06/10/2013 8:18:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: hillarys cankles

The democrats knew what they were doing when they moved to overcome the American voter.

“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s. In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin. After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”


37 posted on 06/10/2013 8:22:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

Republicans are prolife? Since when?

Last I checked they nominated Goldwater (pro abortion), Nixon twice (pro abortion, pro abortion). Ford (pro abortion). Bob Dole (pro abortion), Mitt Romney (pro abortion).

Since Goldwater in 64, there have been 6 republican pro choice nominees. Exactly half the time, the republicans have been pro choice.

That is the definition of ‘completely irrelevant’ on this issue. There needs to be a party that is consistantly prolife. (ie, not the GOP).


38 posted on 06/10/2013 8:30:14 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: ansel12; Impy
>> “However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s. In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin. After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.” << <<

Shhh. The freepers going around spreading the fantasy that JFK was "more conservative than today's Republicans" don't want to be reminded of the truth.

39 posted on 06/10/2013 8:31:24 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: ansel12

Maybe you should go look up what Wilson did as well. ;) Wilson gave Kennedy all the tools to set things up. Before - the government couldn’t prevent people from coming to America because they didn’t fit the quota. Post-Wilson, they can and could.


40 posted on 06/10/2013 8:32:38 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Read my post it says the “” GOP platform is pro-life, and pro-family, but Catholics prefer the democrat platform, and always have, Catholics have always been democrats with the exception of about five presidential elections.””

You believe that Catholics vote for the democrat party which is dedicated to abortion and the homosexual agenda because they have to?


41 posted on 06/10/2013 8:34:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

I’m saying when you have a pro abort leader on both parties, that the republicans have capitulated on this issue.

You say that Catholics have voted ‘except for five presidential elections’ for democrats.

Well, there’s only been 6 presidential elections where the republicans have nominated someone who was prolife. So that means that Catholics have supported the republican party 82 percent of the time when the Republican party nominates someone who is prolife.

Secondly, when is the republican party going to nominate a Catholic?


42 posted on 06/10/2013 8:43:50 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: ansel12

Talking out of your lower GI tract again.


43 posted on 06/10/2013 8:44:17 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I have noticed your insult trolling throughout the threads today, and that area of the human body seems to hold a lot of interest for you.


44 posted on 06/10/2013 8:50:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: Nextrush

Cardinal Dolan - another enemy of our homeland and our future.

Adios America. Nice while it lasted.


45 posted on 06/10/2013 8:53:41 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I will never understand your insistence that Catholics are right to vote for Obama and Clinton and Gore and the democrats, because it is the right thing to do, I think it is is wrong, and that is why I criticize it, not defend it.


46 posted on 06/10/2013 8:54:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: haffast; a fool in paradise

IBDCS (In Before Dolan Can’t Sing!)


47 posted on 06/10/2013 8:59:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: haffast

You have to realize that most Catholic bishops have led extremely sheltered lives from the day they entered seminary. They are clueless as to what the non-ecclesiastical world is all about.

The US Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) is a cesspool of Democrat staffers and party operatives. They are the ones whom these bishops rely upon to give them white papers and talking points on these topics like immigration.

Remember that it was the USCCB operatives, with permission of the snookered bishops, who gave ACORN $7 million even while ACORN was advising people how to get abortions.

These same bishops will exhort the faithful to go on Marches for Life, after which the bishops will be dining and cozying with the likes of Pelosi, Mikulski, Leahy, Biden, Kennedy, and all the other abortion facilitators in the Democrat party.

The way to fight this naïve nonsense is to advocate open borders for millions of Bangladeshi Muslims, Indian Hindus, Chinese Buddhists and atheists, and West African spiritualists, who won’t be filling in the Catholic pews and collection baskets on Sunday morning.


48 posted on 06/10/2013 9:12:41 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: ansel12

Why is it wrong to support Obama but right to support Romney?

Nominate a prolifer, win elections. The last pro abort republican to win was Nixon. That was over 40 years ago.


49 posted on 06/10/2013 9:15:43 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: haffast

cardinal dolan only cares about this because 90% of mexicans are catholic.


50 posted on 06/10/2013 9:17:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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