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US spy leaker Edward Snowden leaves Hong Kong hotel
BBC.com ^ | 10 June 2013 | staff reporter

Posted on 06/11/2013 12:54:05 AM PDT by Daffynition

An ex-CIA employee who leaked details of US top-secret phone and internet surveillance has disappeared from his hotel in Hong Kong.

Edward Snowden, 29, checked out from his hotel on Monday. His whereabouts are unknown, but he is believed to be still in Hong Kong.

Earlier, he said he had an "obligation to help free people from oppression".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: hongkong; snowden
Repeatedly, I said, remember his face b/c they'll never find his body.
1 posted on 06/11/2013 12:54:05 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition
most of these scandals now are rabbits they released for us to chase so we forget about that Obama ordered the IRS to rig the election for Obama and the democrats/socialists in the Senate.

That being said, Snowden is a hero. He told the American people what the Obama communist should have before wire tapping all of us .probably gave a lot of into to the IRS to further crack down on conservatives.

Impeach this tyrant Obama and get rid of the democrat party, a criminal organization

2 posted on 06/11/2013 1:13:12 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Daffynition

Snowden needs to get to Mainland China pronto.
He’s not safe in Hong Kong.
Hong Kong police will cooperate with the U.S.


3 posted on 06/11/2013 1:22:52 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Snowden is a hero.

He had it all , $200,000 a year good job etc.

and Snowden gave it all up so that he could warn the American people what this criminal tyrant Obama was doing = wiretapping all Americans , snooping on all our Internet communications, transactions, phone calls etc. . this Obama creep makes 1984 Big brother look like tame by comparison

4 posted on 06/11/2013 1:28:55 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

The Guardian newspaper says Hong Kong is one of the few places that both could and would resist the dictates of the US government.


5 posted on 06/11/2013 1:42:14 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Also : ” Though it is unlikely Snowden would be able to spend the rest of his life in Hong Kong, he will be able to use the protections afforded by Hong Kong’s judicial system, which is independent of the Chinese government.”


6 posted on 06/11/2013 1:43:29 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: Daffynition
He betrayed the government! However, he did not betray the country, its people, and the constitution. The man is a patriot.

The government will make him pay for that, and unfortunately not much can be done for this man apart from prayer. He will either be ghosted to the States, or he will fall into the clutches of a foreign intelligence agency (I am sure the Chinese would be quite interested in the gems someone like this could offer).

Like many true patriots this man will pay with his life - be it his literal life, or his freedoms.

7 posted on 06/11/2013 1:55:58 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

Snowden had a great life, 4200,000 / year job , etc.

Snowden gave it all up to warn the American people about the tyrant Obama wiretapping all our communications( that violates the constitution).

what do we do , what do we give up? not much. most conservatives and others just sit down and watch TV , maybe complain on the Internet once in while. why aren’t we camping out at the IRS office?


8 posted on 06/11/2013 2:09:36 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: spetznaz

Snowden had a great life, $200,000 / year job , etc.

Snowden gave it all up to warn the American people about the tyrant Obama wiretapping all our communications( that violates the constitution).

what do we do , what do we give up? not much. most conservatives and others just sit down and watch TV , maybe complain on the Internet once in while. why aren’t we camping out at the IRS office building?


9 posted on 06/11/2013 2:11:20 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

****Snowden is a hero.
He had it all , $200,000 a year good job etc., and Snowden gave it all up so that he could warn the American people..***

You might have noticed how being ‘a high school dropout’ precedes all media descriptions of this bright, articulate, self-made man. Clearly, he was not brain-washed in a liberal University. IMHO this is HUGE!!!!!!!


10 posted on 06/11/2013 2:58:16 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: Daffynition

What’s really pathetic in this is that regardless of his motives, whatever they truly are, the man did America a true service. And yet, many of the very people (conservatives) who bemoaned the fact that no one would blow the whistle and expose this admin from within, now condemn him as a chicom spy. for doing EXACTLY what they hoped for.

See...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3029747/posts

...for details. And people wonder why I rail against the psuedocons infesting FR and the political right.


11 posted on 06/11/2013 3:05:37 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Daffynition

Wherabouts unknown? I haven’t seen any speculation in the press yet that 1. Maybe the Chinese have him or 2. Maybe the CIA did him in. Both seem ossible, but the press seems to want to avoid that kind of speculation.


12 posted on 06/11/2013 3:48:42 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Daffynition

He needs to stay hidden. No doubt he had thought this out and despite what some say he is very intelligent. The press and politicians want to make him out to be a failure in the sense that he dropped out of high school, his discharge from special forces training and his top secret security clearance for his age.

News alert-many who get a GED are extremely intelligent, he broke both legs in Special Forces training requiring a discharge (probably jummping out of planes) and lastly many young people in the services and government have top secret clearances.

I have a GED, served in the USAF with a top secret clearance at 17 and after discharge years later was making plenty of money in computers.

I just don’t get how people come to the conclusion that individuals are not intelligent who take courageous actions in their lives.

I have no doubt that this reporter “Greenwald” will release documents in his possession if the security services don’t nab him tying his hands. I suspect others are in possession of documents as well just in case. Hopefully they are an indictment of zero since Edward mentioned him specifically in his interview. One can hope...


13 posted on 06/11/2013 4:44:06 AM PDT by seeker41 (Take back your country before it is too late-STOP islamic expansion in the USA remove zero)
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To: Democrat_media

He is no hero, he is a traitor and needs to treated as such. He chose the terrorists over his own country.


14 posted on 06/11/2013 4:56:03 AM PDT by conservaterian (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party, but no, if we do that the libs will win !)
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To: Democrat_media
Snowden is a hero

Snowden has betrayed his oath, his colleagues, his family, and his country. He is a traitor. I'm shocked that FreeRepublic is hosting so many traitorous sympathizers these days. It used to be a proAmerican, patriotic site.

15 posted on 06/11/2013 5:18:46 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: Democrat_media

this Obama creep makes 1984 Big brother look like tame by comparison


And who sharpened the Boney finger he's poking in our eye ?


16 posted on 06/11/2013 5:23:43 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: spetznaz

I’m in the he’s a patriot camp. What he did, knowing what he knows about how far gov will go, took enormous courage.

I posted the following at another site:

Hi guys. I was thinking about Snowden and what we know and what we don’t know.

1 – He’s a smart guy.
2 – He has seen how vengeful Obama can be.
3 – He puts it out there that he could even read the President’s email if he knew the address.
4 – He’s a really smart guy at 29.
5 – He didn’t reveal any personal data.
6 – He’d been thinking about this program for years and was disappointed that Obama did not scale it back.
7 – A smart guy would take the opportunity before to find every incriminating bit of information about the players he could.
8 – He may have been able to find Donald Young’s email address, Rev. Wright’s address, Reggie Love’s address, the email of the Perkins law-firm, Bill Ayers….
9 – A smart guy would have packages of information placed with several media people in case something happened to him.

I really hope he’s as smart as I think he is.


17 posted on 06/11/2013 5:24:48 AM PDT by ZachJones
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To: af_vet_1981
Snowden has betrayed his oath, his colleagues, his family, and his country. He is a traitor. I'm shocked that FreeRepublic is hosting so many traitorous sympathizers these days. It used to be a proAmerican, patriotic site.

When all of our elected leaders and legions of unelected bureaucrats have collectively abandoned all pretext of being proAmerican? I don't know that this guy is a hero but I don't think he's the biggest villian in this story. I was reading one of my kid's textbooks once and found a phrase that said we owe allegiance to our government. Too many people believe that.

18 posted on 06/11/2013 5:29:36 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: af_vet_1981

What about all the critters in congress, senante and executive branch that have violated their oaths?


19 posted on 06/11/2013 5:33:43 AM PDT by seeker41 (Take back your country before it is too late-STOP islamic expansion in the USA remove zero)
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To: ZachJones

This is a BIG deal. With the IRS targeting political opponents, the EPA waiving fees for their friends, DOJ punishing whistle blowers, imagine how bad it will be if NSA targets people who question actions of president. When a General in Afghanistan said it was not going so well over there, poof out comes his private emails? When Petreaus gets a little out of line, poof out comes evidence of an affair? I heard these allegations last night in an interview with former NSA whistle blowers. They also alleged that NSA could provide opposition research for elections. Imagine that. Who would run? Who could run? This could be the end of democracy in the US. The abuse has to stop and effective (nonpartisan) supervision put in place. Think how rich people could become tapping phones of business leaders discussing acquisitions?

The corruption has to be pulled out by the roots. What we have now is the Chicago Obama mob running things. Yes, Mr. Snowden is a hero.


20 posted on 06/11/2013 5:44:18 AM PDT by ZachJones
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To: Democrat_media
Snowden had a great life, $200,000 / year job , etc. Snowden gave it all up to warn the American people about the tyrant Obama wiretapping all our communications( that violates the constitution).

And let's not forget the hot dancer girlfriend he left behind.


21 posted on 06/11/2013 5:50:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Daffynition

Maybe he has moved to Peking. Maybe he is giving them Obama’s secret bed time details now.


22 posted on 06/11/2013 5:52:41 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: ZachJones; af_vet_1981
I heard these allegations last night in an interview with former NSA whistle blowers. They also alleged that NSA could provide opposition research for elections. Imagine that. Who would run? Who could run? This could be the end of democracy in the US. The abuse has to stop and effective (nonpartisan) supervision put in place. Think how rich people could become tapping phones of business leaders discussing acquisitions?

That is exactly right. Yes he broke the law, but when the FedGov becomes an arm of the DNC.. At what point does that stop being important.

I know how Chicago politics operate. Obama used to be the Senator across the river. He pulled SEALED divorce records, that both parties wanted to remain sealed, and published them on the front page of the Chicago Tribune.

Now the same Machine has all the resources of the NSA. They will do the same, and have done so. It is no wonder that the GOP slate has been very weak lately, they know what is going on.

Sadly, I don't think that Snowden will matter. The Machine doesn't care if everyone knows it exists, because once it is in power it can't be broken.
23 posted on 06/11/2013 5:57:16 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: conservaterian

If the US had a secret program feeding people into furnaces, would it be traitorous to speak out against that?

If not, how is this any different? The govt was engaged in criminal Unconstitutional acts against the people. And you are defending that.


24 posted on 06/11/2013 7:29:14 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: af_vet_1981

US officials have betrayed their oaths and the Constitution by allowing this program to go on. THAT IS THE ISSUE.


25 posted on 06/11/2013 7:31:44 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ZachJones

Bump for an excellent post. This is a key issue.

This is a BIG deal. With the IRS targeting political opponents, the EPA waiving fees for their friends, DOJ punishing whistle blowers, imagine how bad it will be if NSA targets people who question actions of president. When a General in Afghanistan said it was not going so well over there, poof out comes his private emails? When Petreaus gets a little out of line, poof out comes evidence of an affair? I heard these allegations last night in an interview with former NSA whistle blowers. They also alleged that NSA could provide opposition research for elections. Imagine that. Who would run? Who could run? This could be the end of democracy in the US. The abuse has to stop and effective (nonpartisan) supervision put in place. Think how rich people could become tapping phones of business leaders discussing acquisitions?

The corruption has to be pulled out by the roots. What we have now is the Chicago Obama mob running things. Yes, Mr. Snowden is a hero.


26 posted on 06/11/2013 7:34:51 AM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: Daffynition
Am I the only one that think this was the real reason for the Iraq war? That all this is connected? This is a PDF file I hope I link it right.

Connecting Iraq to the telecommunications world

www.iaccidatabase.com/PDF_files/Connecting%20Iraq%20to2345/pdf.pdf · PDF file

communication switch gear and telecom- ... than what is typically seen in Iraq. “The Center is being built with advanced con-struction techniques such as concrete

27 posted on 06/11/2013 8:03:10 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (1 John 2:22...the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist...)
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To: PapaBear3625

I have the idea she was not hard to leave....


28 posted on 06/11/2013 9:11:32 AM PDT by caww
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To: boxlunch

<....” Mr. Snowden is a hero”....>

He is a whistleblower...but hasn’t told us anything we didn’t already know..... I wouldn’t call that a hero in the terms of my understanding of the stuff heros are made of......regardless of what he believes he’s sacrificed....

Further he has surely put his family in jeprody since some of them are gov. workers....will they loose their jobs? No doubt the authorities are already investigating them...at minimal asking questions.

We need to see concrete details ..names and incidents specific....he has not given anything not already clearly aware of.

Additionally, we knew how ‘O’ would use this Presidency...he made that very clear long before in office. ...and he’s certainly done the damage he said he would do.


29 posted on 06/11/2013 9:19:11 AM PDT by caww
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To: conservaterian

Obama is the terrorist , the IRS are the terrorists, the democrats are the terrorists. you aid these communist monstrosities to take away all your property as is these socialist vermin’s goal


30 posted on 06/11/2013 9:25:13 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: af_vet_1981

Obama is the criminal and traitor. you demonize Snowden who exposed this criminal Obama. OBama hates America, hates Americans and freedom. you support OBama so you are the traitor

Obama is the terrorist , the IRS are the terrorists, the democrats are the terrorists. you aid these communist monstrosities to take away all your property as is these socialist vermin’s goal


31 posted on 06/11/2013 9:26:57 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

So you think the government should not try to stop the terrorists from attacking this country? How many attacks were stopped by this surveillance? We have no idea. Congressional leaders were informed of this, regular U.S. citizens NOT in touch with terrorists were not bothered. I support our intelligence agencies and I believe those that do not are supporting the terrorists at our expense. Just what do you expect the intelligence agencies to do? NOT use all available means to stop attacks on the U.S. people? I bet you don’t believe in waterboarding either so that we can get ALL available information from our enemies.


32 posted on 06/11/2013 12:08:15 PM PDT by conservaterian (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party, but no, if we do that the libs will win !)
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To: conservaterian

you trust gov and Obama. you support the traitor and enemy of Americans which is Obama and his agencies and the democrat party.

Obama is the terrorist and the traitor. just 1 example out of hundreds:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3030021/posts

Obama To Ignore Senate, Sign 2nd Amendment-Violating U.N. Gun Treaty
Revolution Radio ^ | June 11, 2013 | Paul Martin

Posted on 06/11/2013 11:59:22 AM PDT by yoe

A majority in the U.S. Senate has told President Barack Obama not to do it. There’s no doubt that an overwhelming majority of Americans would oppose it — if the media ever told them about it.


33 posted on 06/11/2013 12:12:57 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: sushiman
The Guardian newspaper says Hong Kong is one of the few places that both could and would resist the dictates of the US government.

Although Hong Kong,technically,has a different system of government (and system of justice) than the rest of China the city is still,in fact,run by Beijing.This guy will be allowed to stay in Hong Kong *only* if the top leaders in Beijing think that it will *help* China or *hurt* the US.Otherwise,he's toast.

34 posted on 06/11/2013 2:12:52 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: conservaterian
How many attacks were stopped by this surveillance? We have no idea.

Really?

"The Order does not require Verizon to produce telephony metadata for communications wholly originating and terminating in foreign countries"

I'm impressed you hit every talking point in one paragraph.
35 posted on 06/11/2013 2:39:09 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Democrat_media
Snowden gave it all up so that he could warn the American people what this criminal tyrant Obama was doing = wiretapping all Americans , snooping on all our Internet communications, transactions, phone calls etc.

Bears repeating. Snowden = Paul Revere. Already I've noticed Rita Crosby, Liz Cheney, Boehner, media/pols etal. warping the true narrative as members of BOTH parties attempt to turn this guy into the second coming of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.

36 posted on 06/11/2013 4:02:44 PM PDT by USS Johnston
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To: Democrat_media

Of course Obama’s IRS did every possible prior to the election to undermine and compromise his opposition, including intimidated, investigated, harassed, penalized, browbeat and demoralized these groups and individuals.

The IRS might as well have torched the buildings and took shots at these individuals and groups which opposed Obama.

Whoever controls government has the power to do whatever they want.

They have clearly proven this.


37 posted on 06/11/2013 4:46:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: conservaterian

You are a liar. The programs exposed, have nothing to do with overseas monitoring. Get your prayer rug out


38 posted on 06/11/2013 5:23:53 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: af_vet_1981

So is it pro-American to aid and abet Obama’s tyrranical crimes? Is it treachery not to warn Americans that Obama is spying on you? Is Snowden a traitor for sacrificing a high-paying job to risk his life by letting the world know Obama is a thug?


39 posted on 06/11/2013 6:49:10 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Democrat_media

I agree with everything you said. I’ll just add Bush and boner and mccain and Graham et al are all a part of it, too.


40 posted on 06/11/2013 10:49:36 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: spetznaz

This is so like the TV show PERSON OF INTEREST and Snoden is the “Finch” character. Maybe he has a “back door” into the government servers that will protect him for a long time.


41 posted on 06/11/2013 10:52:00 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: seeker41

I think it was Peter King who said today that reporters who print classified documents should be arrested.


42 posted on 06/11/2013 10:54:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

I wonder if all these mosques being builit all over the country aren’t computer centers. No one can go in them. Not ever local cops. I may need some tin foil but I wouldn’t put anything past this government.


43 posted on 06/11/2013 11:00:24 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: All

I noticed something strange on Greta tonight. First Graham, then Gulianni constantly smiled and laughed a kind of nervous laugh. I’m betting they’re scared to death of what the government has on them. That explains all these politicians calling Snoden a traitor. And Peter King saying reporters should be arrested.

As for attacks being stopped, show me one. I know a few they didn’t stop.


44 posted on 06/11/2013 11:07:40 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: af_vet_1981

Snowden is the Paul Revere of the 21st century and have informed the American Citizen of the treachery of our corrupt Government

I will stand with Snowden before I will stand with the ilk like Obama, Boehner and the others that cry traitor in the face of a would be hero

The American Citizen has been warned. What happens next is either in the government’s side of the court or ours. I believe the corrupt government will act next by starting to limit internet and media access

IMHO


45 posted on 06/12/2013 4:12:09 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: eartick
Snowden is the Paul Revere of the 21st century

No, he is just another disaffected liberal/libertarian traitor who betrayed his colleagues, his girl friend, his family, himself, and his country when he fled to China to sell our secrets.

I will stand with Snowden ...

Really, are you going to divulge classified information to foreigners too ? Or are you going to travel to China to stand with him ? Or are you going to become a mentally ill antiAmerican like Cindy Sheehan ?

I've never seen such a derangement syndrome on FR like this on behalf of a traitor just because there is a moslem socialist in the WH.

46 posted on 06/12/2013 7:24:13 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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