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RAND PAUL: Retrieving California is the key to the future
Washington Times ^ | 06/11/2013 | Sen. Rand Paul

Posted on 06/11/2013 5:14:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
There is but one possibility of "saving" California, one FReeper (and I don't remember the name.. sorry, FRiend!) gave a great idea for demarcating a separation between two segments of the state.

The narrow string of 14 counties that hold the highest concentrations of liberals (Solano down to L.A. County) would be comprised of "Coastal California," while the remaining landmass would absorb lefty Mendocino and Sonoma Counties into a larger mass of relatively conservative voters.

But as an intact entity, CA will never be "retrieved."


21 posted on 06/11/2013 6:04:05 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Rand is right, we are TOTALLY SCROOOOOOOOD!


22 posted on 06/11/2013 6:04:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

So Rand Paul’s aim is to allow unfettered immigration in order to turn the other 49 states into California?


23 posted on 06/11/2013 6:06:46 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ve gotta find a way to break the Dems’ fraudulent hold on their electoral base. Starting in the 1990s, they now start just a few steps away from 270, needing only their small lean-Dem states (Iowa, Nevada, Minnesota, Wisconsin, etc) and then a Colorado/Ohio/Florida/Virginia to put them over the top.

If we can’t win in 2016, pack it in. The Supreme Court will be gone at that point. Even if we win after that, they can run to their court buddies and have any progress we make struck-down. It’s a nauseating prospect, and it all makes me wish that I had been born a few decades earlier when the US of my youth was still at least a somewhat decent place.


24 posted on 06/11/2013 6:22:19 AM PDT by MarkRegal05
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To: SeekAndFind

They don’t call California the land of fruits and nuts for nothing. Its so far down the bunny trail nothing will ever bring it back. Rand Paul is California dreaming. :-)


25 posted on 06/11/2013 6:24:51 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The GOP needs to worry about Florida, not California.

If a dem candidate carries NY, CA, and FL, the GOP candidate can't win.

26 posted on 06/11/2013 6:40:53 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: jpsb

Paul has said he is for ‘immigration reform’, but he is afraid Rubio’s bill isn’t ‘strong enough to pass’—so he wants to see it tweaked into something that will pass the House.

That is, Rand is pro-amnesty like the rest of them.


27 posted on 06/11/2013 6:45:05 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Rand Paul is California dreaming. :-)

Would be a good time to mention cleaning up the California voter rolls. Massive, well organized fraud, ala the Sanchez Sisters is the order of every election day. Not only are illegal aliens being routinely registered and voted, but virtual illegal aliens, dead illegal aliens, and entire families are being created and voted. A significant portion of the state legislature sits as the result of plain fraud at the local level. Absolutely incredible to behold.

Ron Paul shares one severe RINO trait: he is apparently oblivious to vote fraud.

28 posted on 06/11/2013 6:48:11 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: 9YearLurker
"Paul said he dislikes the plan’s cap on agricultural workers. He also wants people who are in the U.S. on work visas to stand in line for U.S. citizenship in their country of origin, and he would not create a new path to citizenship.

That does not sound like pro amnesty to me.

29 posted on 06/11/2013 6:52:39 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Obama won CA by close to 3 million votes, 60% to 37%.


30 posted on 06/11/2013 6:53:51 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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Obama won CA by close to 3 million votes, 60% to 37%

So what? Honest elections are the law, no matter who gets the votes. BTW, I have heard that at least 1/2 million registrations in CA are illegal.

With low turnout, the importance of fraud can not be overstated.

31 posted on 06/11/2013 7:01:15 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: Ben Ficklin

The bill is dead. Every Republican is talking about it strictly for reelection purposes. If this bill comes up for a vote, there will be more than 5 Democrat senators voting against it.

And if it does get through there are still too many Conservatives in congress who wil kill this.

It is Kabuki theatre.


32 posted on 06/11/2013 7:12:48 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Having lived in The Golden State for nearly three decades, I am surprised by any assumption that there is a GOP or conservative presence here. Someone on The Right will need to invest time and effort and money BIG TIME to inform and educate the low information voters before any change will happen.


33 posted on 06/11/2013 7:24:32 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: SeekAndFind

Only someone who doesn’t live here would say that.

California is gone, handed over to Mexico.

Really.


34 posted on 06/11/2013 7:43:59 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Norm Lenhart

He said he’d vote for it if it could be “fixed”. If they are pushing for cloture today, that won’t be possible.

If he votes for it as it stands, I’m done with him.

If he stays true to his principles though... I guess we’ll see.


35 posted on 06/11/2013 7:48:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Thane_Banquo
So Rand Paul’s aim is to allow unfettered immigration...

Is that why he was pushing for a border fence and possibly the military on the border? Weird way to push for "unfettered immigration".

36 posted on 06/11/2013 7:50:35 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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That does not sound like pro amnesty to me.

It's not. However, there is a strong sentiment of "Paul" hate that is trying desperately to bridge that generational gap.

Rand is not Ron. Some folks just can't seem to wrap their heads around that.

37 posted on 06/11/2013 7:52:08 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Maybe I was wrong. Last I heard he was supporting the Gang of 8 amnesty bill. It would be good if he voted against it, since I would otherwise be willing to vote for him for the 2016 nomination.


38 posted on 06/11/2013 7:57:25 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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He came out with a statement the other day saying that IF this bill could be "fixed", then he'd support some much needed reforms. If not, that he'd act as a roadblock to keep any "bad" bill from passing.

Doesn't sound like he's going to get the chance to "fix" anything. At this point, I'm waiting to see if he caves on his principles or votes against this craptastic bill.

39 posted on 06/11/2013 8:03:25 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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