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‘It’s really not math, it’s just arithmetic’: Rep. Ed Markey explains government budgeting
Twitchy ^ | 6-11-2013 | Twitchy Staff

Posted on 06/11/2013 8:08:40 PM PDT by smoothsailing

June 11, 2013

‘It’s really not math, it’s just arithmetic’: Rep. Ed Markey explains government budgeting

Twitchy Staff

America dodged a bullet last year by rejecting the dark occult powers of “math witch” Paul Ryan in favor of rocket scientist and shotgun aficionado Joe “Three Letter Word” Biden. Voters in Massachusetts are facing a similar dilemma this year, as Democratic Rep. Ed Markey, fending off a challenge by Republican Gabriel Gomez, wowed the audience at tonight’s debate but showing off his own math skills.

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1 posted on 06/11/2013 8:08:40 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Rest my case! 36 year Congressional Loser gets outed for being a complete and utter MO-ron! What else is new?


2 posted on 06/11/2013 8:17:46 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: smoothsailing
Howie Carr,an excellent Boston talk host and columnist,claims that Markey’s last government job was to drive a Frostee Freeze truck many years ago.I think he might be serious when he makes that claim.
3 posted on 06/11/2013 8:19:26 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: smoothsailing

So I guess my students are right after all: We’ll never really use math anyway.


4 posted on 06/11/2013 8:21:04 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: smoothsailing

He’s really not an idiot. He’s just an imbecile.


5 posted on 06/11/2013 8:22:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: smoothsailing

He’s really not an idiot. He’s just an imbecile.


6 posted on 06/11/2013 8:22:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: acapesket
Linguistically, he is correct:

"Arithmetic or arithmetics (from the Greek word arithmos "number") is the oldest and most elementary branch of mathematics, used very popularly, for tasks ranging from simple day-to-day counting to advanced science and business calculations. It involves the study of quantity, especially as the result of operations that combine numbers. In common usage, it refers to the simpler properties when using the traditional operations of addition, subtraction, multiplication and division with smaller values of numbers."

"Mathematics is the abstract study of quantity, structure, space, change, and many other topics."

I'm not saying Democrats are adept at either, but there is a distinction.

7 posted on 06/11/2013 8:22:43 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: smoothsailing

He’s a good fit for the Mass voters.


8 posted on 06/11/2013 8:23:49 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: smoothsailing

not math, just arithmetic.....

Does that mean even Lois Lerner could do it?


9 posted on 06/11/2013 8:25:20 PM PDT by uncitizen (our liberties and freedom are in danger of being taken away forever! Speak out NOW!)
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To: acapesket
LOL, Markey is no Joe Biden!


10 posted on 06/11/2013 8:25:31 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
‘It’s really not math, it’s just arithmetic’

That's not what he said. What he said is It's really not math, it's oritmitic. listen carefully.

11 posted on 06/11/2013 8:27:11 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

LOL, you’re right, thanks for clearing that up! :o)


12 posted on 06/11/2013 8:29:48 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Gunslingr3

Ed Markey would not know what a linguist is if it crawled up you know where!

I will vote for Gomez as a protest vote, it won’t matter.
It’s all pre rigged here.
See Salem, Lynn, Lowell, Lawrence, Revere, Boston, Chelsea, Dorchester, Springfield, Northhampton, Lincoln , Concord , Worcester.
Most everywhere else will be red, just like with Scott Brown (MASSIVE RINO).
Obambi figured out thru the census that it only takes a few communities to rig the state. Then again, he did supposedly attend hahvud Cambridge...doncha know?


13 posted on 06/11/2013 8:32:38 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Gunslingr3

The problem is that most of the populous doesn’t know the difference. The words are commonly used interchangeably, even though it’s not ‘technically’ correct.


14 posted on 06/11/2013 8:34:21 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: smoothsailing

IOW, Malarky thinks his constituents are morons and wants to show them that he’s as dumb as they are. I wonder if he’s right?


15 posted on 06/11/2013 8:38:07 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: smoothsailing

I failed orithmatic.


16 posted on 06/11/2013 8:38:23 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: smoothsailing

Math iz somtin dat da smartz peepel du!


17 posted on 06/11/2013 8:47:48 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Gunslingr3

According to this site, he is wrong. Budget analysts do use mathematics.

http://weusemath.org/?career=budget-analyst

You must be thinking of accountants.


18 posted on 06/11/2013 8:50:30 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: mylife

I got kicked out of origami.


19 posted on 06/11/2013 8:53:09 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Wanderer99

Gomez loves Juan McUseless.
Brown loved Juan McUseless.

Can you see a pattern here?


20 posted on 06/11/2013 8:55:07 PM PDT by billys kid ("Bury me on my head for one day this world will be upside down." (Diogenes))
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To: smoothsailing
THIS MAN IS RUNNING YOUR COUNTRY
21 posted on 06/11/2013 9:18:35 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: smoothsailing

Government budgeting?

Hahahahahaha!

It’s neither math NOR arithmetic; it’s horse sh*t.


22 posted on 06/11/2013 11:13:44 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Gunslingr3
"... it's the oldest and most elementary branch of mathematics"

"Mathematics is the abstract study of quantity, structure, space, change, and many other topics."

So it's math, but it's just not complicated enough to be " math".

Linguistically, arithmetic is a part of mathematics .

23 posted on 06/11/2013 11:18:09 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: UCANSEE2

Most of the populace is ignorant too.


24 posted on 06/12/2013 2:49:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: smoothsailing
Saw the clip. The man has a point, or may have - I don’t know what point he actually is discussing without more context.

But, speaking as a retired engineer, one of my pet peeves is the fact that grammar school teachers, and high school teachers other than math teachers, typically don’t know any math other than arithmetic. If that describes you, fine - but understand that that ignorance is only ignorance, not wisdom.

You can be quick and accurate at addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division - and even at taking square roots - without knowing the first thing about algebra or geometry, say nothing of calculus or vectors or matrices. The point is that, “word problems” aside, arithmetic is merely procedure to be learned by rote. Given that Roman Numerals are terribly awkward for arithmetic, for all their sophistication they didn’t do a lot of arithmetic, and if you could do long division you would undoubtedly be qualified to be a very valuable slave in Rome.

The clue in grammar school that I would be good at higher forms of math later on was that even though I disliked the rote addition, subtraction, multiplication, or division practice like everyone else, I enjoyed the word problems which most or all of my classmates despised worse than the number crunching practice. But of course the number crunching practice predominated in homework assignments, so mostly I just disliked Arithmetic and didn’t consider myself good at it. And the teachers didn’t pick up on it either, because they thought math was number crunching and nothing else. I remember Plane Geometry, in tenth grade, as the first class in which I showed up well in math.

So this is just Know-Nothingism.


25 posted on 06/12/2013 5:30:25 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Viennacon

Exactly....
He will cruise to easy victory, following in Fauxcahontas’ foot steps....
Hasn’t been a moronic politician the taxachussetts voters haven’t liked.


26 posted on 06/12/2013 5:42:55 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: VanShuyten

You speak a language, you speak English. Which is a more accurate description of what you need to know to communicate on this forum?


27 posted on 06/12/2013 6:03:29 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gay State Conservative

Howie Carr knows that Markey drove the Mister Softee truck in Malden because I told it to Dennis and Callahan three years ago. I live around the corner from Markey’s Townsend Street house. The best Ed Markey story though is when he had former Red Sox outfielder Dwight Evans sign a baseball at a Wake in Malden that I was at.


28 posted on 06/12/2013 6:21:29 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Saw the clip. The man has a point...

If true, that is without doubt a rare event in the life of Ed Markey.

29 posted on 06/12/2013 11:04:47 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: 9YearLurker

Half the populace is below average intelligence.


30 posted on 06/12/2013 11:20:53 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2; 9YearLurker
Half the populace is below average intelligence.

That sure helps explain the existence of elected Democrats.

31 posted on 06/12/2013 11:28:57 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
Saw the clip. The man has a point...
If true, that is without doubt a rare event in the life of Ed Markey.
Well, I did qualify that by noting that I couldn’t tell from that short clip what point he was actually trying to make - only that arithmetic is, contrary to the reactions I was seeing here (your #10 not least), very far from being the entirety of mathematics.
A friend of mine once e-mailed me to say that he was teaching computer use, and wanted help with nomenclature. He understood what analog-to-digital conversion was - but he was unable to research why it was called “analog” anything. And that set me to thinking about the difference between quantity and number. Number is a name for a quantity.

You could have two glasses with some water in each, for example. If I asked you to add the quantities of water, you could use a measuring cup and say, “One of the glasses has 5 ounces of water and the other has 6 ounces of water; the result of that addition is 11 ounces of water.” That would be performing conversions to digital numbers, followed by arithmetic addition. But there is another approach, which a preschool child might do - and which would be equally, or even more, valid. He might simply pour the water from each glass into a pan. That is the requested quantity. “Eleven ounces” is merely a more or less inaccurate name for that quantity.

Which makes the point that the procedure which you were taught in grade school is indeed “addition,” but addition is not defined by that procedure. That procedure is merely a way to determine the name for the sum of two quantities from the names for those two quantities (the generic term “analog” in the term “analog to digital” derives from the “analog computer” - which synthesizes voltages which are analogous to physical quantities which would be expected to occur in a system under interesting conditions).


32 posted on 06/12/2013 7:51:35 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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33 posted on 06/12/2013 8:09:25 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
That facepalm describes my reaction when I realized how I had blundered in an Analog Computation lab class in college - when I realized that I had completely missed the point of analog “computation." That first lab demonstrated analog addition, and it was clear to me that it worked. But (I wondered half a century ago), “What is the point of taking the trouble of setting one dial to the value representing one number, setting another dial to the value representing the second number, and then reading a DC voltmeter to obtain your sum? It seemed to make no sense - it would be tedious to make the settings accurately and to read that voltmeter accurately - and the accuracy you could obtain was limited, whereas the good old fashioned method I learned in grade school could be done to any necessary precision, and could be done just as easily.

What I hadn’t taken into account was the fact that the analog computer wasn’t intended merely to produce a digital sum of two digital numbers, but to create voltages which varied continuously. Thus, the addition which occurred in the circuit happened continuously with varying inputs and a correspondingly varying output. Analog “computation” thus is fundamentally suitable for cases where you can use the “just put the water from both glasses in the same container” form of addition.

And if that seems like another face palm moment to you, now you know why you didn’t study engineering! And why an engineer might laugh at the story of the three jocks who were commiserating with each other after having flunked out of college. The first jock says, “I was getting by until I had to study Calculus, and then I was completely snowed.” The second jock says, “Algebra” completely baffled me, and I had to drop out.” The third jock says, “Any of you guys ever heard of ‘long division?’"

34 posted on 06/13/2013 12:39:10 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: smoothsailing

What a jackass


35 posted on 06/13/2013 12:48:03 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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>> What a jackass

A property of being a Democrat.


36 posted on 06/13/2013 12:49:43 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Real Engineers consider themselves well dressed if their socks match.

Real Engineers buy their spouses a set of matched screwdrivers for their birthday.

Real engineers have a non-technical vocabulary of 800 words.

Real Engineers repair their own cameras, telephones, televisions, watches, and automatic transmissions.

Real Engineers say “It’s 70 degrees Fahrenheit, 25 degrees Celsius, and 298 Kelvin” and all you say is “Isn’t it a nice day?”

Real Engineers wear badges so they don’t forget who they are. Sometimes a note is attached saying “Don’t offer me a ride today. I drove my own car”.

Real Engineers’ politics run towards acquiring a parking space with their name on it and an office with a window.

Real Engineers know the “ABC’s of Infrared” from A to B.

Real Engineers know how to take the cover off of their computer, and are not afraid to do it.

Real Engineers’ briefcases contain a Phillips screwdriver, a copy of “Quantum Physics”, and a half of a peanut butter sandwich.

Real Engineers don’t find the above at all funny.

http://www.workjoke.com/engineers-jokes.html


37 posted on 06/13/2013 9:17:52 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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