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Do we need a constitutional amendment to protect privacy?
National Constitution Center ^ | June 12, 2013 | NCC Staff

Posted on 06/12/2013 8:12:50 AM PDT by EveningStar

As part of our “Next 10 Amendments” debate series, we’re asking our readers if it’s time for a constitutional amendment to protect their privacy.

The furor in the past two weeks over government eavesdropping on the media and citizens has raised a lot of questions related to the First Amendment and the Fourth Amendment.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.constitutioncenter.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amendment; constitution; privacy; righttoprivacy
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1 posted on 06/12/2013 8:12:50 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

The thought of a ConCon being thrown open in an age of low-info voters scares the literal crap out of me.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 8:15:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: EveningStar

We need one, but as the Constitution is inactive, it won’t help.


3 posted on 06/12/2013 8:15:18 AM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: EveningStar

Like privacy? Like RKBA?


4 posted on 06/12/2013 8:15:21 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: EveningStar

er do we not have the 4th oh wait even a couple of sheep freepers think it’s alright to spy and would rather attack the guy who told the world the NSA and the obama Govt is spying on us all .

We have enough laws and rules and we have a constitution , how about going by it and if the obama Govt can’t abide by the laws then why should we


5 posted on 06/12/2013 8:17:21 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: EveningStar
Yes we do. Here is the proposed text:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
Oh wait....
6 posted on 06/12/2013 8:17:57 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: EveningStar

hell we need aconstitutional amendment to protect our constitution- like judge napolitano said htism ornign basically that what we’re seeign with hte abuses of power was the very reasons our constitutionwas set up i nthe first place- and he said, this is exactly what you see when there are no reigns on executive power- the constitution is no longer even a barrier to them


7 posted on 06/12/2013 8:18:41 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: EveningStar

That’s how abortion became legal in the US. The Supreme Court found a right to privacy in the Constitution.


8 posted on 06/12/2013 8:19:27 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: EveningStar

You need a Constitution Police ,go against the constitution and you will be investigated by the IRS ,NSA, DHS ,SS and the FBI ,reverse of what Obama is doing LOL sorry


9 posted on 06/12/2013 8:19:55 AM PDT by molson209
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To: EveningStar

We already have a Supreme Court ruling that recognizes the right to privacy (although i would argue that the 9th amendment does as well). It’s called Roe v. Wade.

About time that conservatives started citing that ruling to support conservative arguments against government intrusions into other aspects of our lives — the NSA surveillance, and while we’re at it, intrusive IRS audits, investigations and tax return requirements.


10 posted on 06/12/2013 8:20:34 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: EveningStar

We’ve got one. Its called the 4th amendment.


11 posted on 06/12/2013 8:21:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: EveningStar

No. We already have one.


12 posted on 06/12/2013 8:23:22 AM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: manc
It turns out it is OK to spy ~ always has been ~ but if the enemy catches you doing it they might just execute you on the spot.

Then there's the crowd who want the privacy to murder their unborn and their elderly relatives ~ without even fear of public tut tuting.

13 posted on 06/12/2013 8:27:49 AM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red STATE Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: EveningStar

No Constitutional amendment about privacy will affect the spying. It is the nature of government. In matters of collecting information, if it can be done it will be done. The only amendment that might help, if it did not lead to the formal abrogation of the Constitution and a full on Coup would be one limiting the government revenue and spending to a 5% cut of the GDP and/or one that reduces the government agencies to the four cabinet positions of the first Administration and limits government employment to .5% of the employed population and some et ceteras.


14 posted on 06/12/2013 8:27:52 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: manc

Perhaps we need an amendment that requires observance of the Constitution in toto? Would that amendment bany more observed by the government than what is already in the COnstitution?


15 posted on 06/12/2013 8:29:04 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: cripplecreek

The left has taken the “Humpty Dumpty” viewpoint on the Constitution -

“when I say ‘Constitutional’, it means exactly what I need it to mean at that moment, no more, no less”


16 posted on 06/12/2013 8:29:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: muawiyah

so should those who ordered the spying be executed <smiles.?


17 posted on 06/12/2013 8:31:11 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: arthurus

it will only be ignored and they will only go around it.

I just got back from the dentist and everyone from the dentist to those waiting in the waiting room were all talking about this and saying this was out fo order and oabma has gone to far, course there were no low info people there as everyone seemed to know what was and has been going on


18 posted on 06/12/2013 8:32:40 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc
It's been the history of warfare that the victors get to write it, and of course they deal harshly with spies and those who ordered the spying.

Ordinary police surveillance of a public road is 'spying' ~ looking out your front window at the street is 'spying' ~ your neighbor looking back in through your uncovered window could also be spying.

Vision is always in an on-state, as is hearing. What you see and what you hear aren't always under your control. Criminalizing vision and hearing, although attempted from time to time, really isn't going to work out.

Occasionally one of the folks we trusted to keep the national secrets secret will run off with them to an enemy. Obviously we should execute him. After all, that's what we would do to any enemy spy, right?

19 posted on 06/12/2013 8:39:32 AM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red STATE Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: EveningStar

We already have the 4th Amendment, and it is being violated. If we cannot hold our government accountable for that amendment we cannot hold it accountable for anything else.


20 posted on 06/12/2013 8:41:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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